RealXenuis
Officious Intermeddler
I definitely will, thx. I just wanted to get something up quickly and keep momentum going, if you know what I mean. I'll corral them into a set and collection, and batch tag them soon.
PrecisionCamera
Precision Camera & Video
Understood. Keep it up so we can bask in the X-Pro1 goodness!
macjim
Well-known
I'm so happy, I've sold my nex-5n with the two lenses to buy the 18mm lens to go with the 35mm.
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RealXenuis
Officious Intermeddler
tagged, in sets btw.
PrecisionCamera
Precision Camera & Video
Classy & functional.
aanokhin
Newbie
Anton here from Russia.
Most of the negative threads on this camera are crap, most positive are useful. It is a great and innovative camera, been using it for the last three weeks (one week in Hong Kong) and the learning curve is steep. Folks who had it in their hands for "a day" or "a week" should shut up and stop spreading the "bad news" or "i'm returning my XP1" crap once and for all.
It IS a PRO camera which implies you have to learn to use it. I discover new and surprisingly useful features of this camera every day and it amazes me! AF whine is a dread and should be dismissed as per a Russian saying - "your hands stick out of your ass"
So shut up and shoot!
Most of the negative threads on this camera are crap, most positive are useful. It is a great and innovative camera, been using it for the last three weeks (one week in Hong Kong) and the learning curve is steep. Folks who had it in their hands for "a day" or "a week" should shut up and stop spreading the "bad news" or "i'm returning my XP1" crap once and for all.
It IS a PRO camera which implies you have to learn to use it. I discover new and surprisingly useful features of this camera every day and it amazes me! AF whine is a dread and should be dismissed as per a Russian saying - "your hands stick out of your ass"
So shut up and shoot!
Lax Jought
Well-known
Does anyone have any idea about the low light performance of the X-Pro1 compared with the new 5D MkIII?
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
I don't know about the 5D Mk III but I would gladly use the X-Pro1 up to 12,800 ISO no problem... and that would be for weddings.
Cheers,
Dave
Lax Jought
Well-known
Thanks Dave, arrghh I think I may have to go for the 5DMkIII because as I understand it, it should be on par with the XPro1 in terms of low light plus the 5D can do amazing video as well which is important for me.
mobilexile
Well-known
I appreciate your candid comments, they give me hope that the X-Pro1 is the camera for me.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
That's fair - the video on the X-Pro1 is not one of the "features" imho
If video is important then I would totally avoid the X-Pro1.
Cheers,
Dave
Lax Jought
Well-known
That's fair - the video on the X-Pro1 is not one of the "features" imho
If video is important then I would totally avoid the X-Pro1.
Cheers,
Dave
hah thanks, I was half hoping you'd say the 5D does low light better than the XPro1, in which case it would make my decision much much easier. But dammit you had to go mention the magic 12,800 number didn't you. :bang::bang::bang:
willie_901
Mentor
Dave's advice is right on target. The XP1 is not going to beat the 5DIII at video.
Until we get the DxO numbers we won't know how the high ISO compares quantitatively. I doubt you would see much difference though based on what I have seen so far with my XP1.
Until we get the DxO numbers we won't know how the high ISO compares quantitatively. I doubt you would see much difference though based on what I have seen so far with my XP1.
Lax Jought
Well-known
Well the fact that the XPro1 does not allow you to control shutter, goes a long way against the full manual control in video that I would need.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Perhaps the wrong camera for the task?
Yep... that's why I said that if video was important to me I would have never bought the X-Pro1 - A pro DSLR with video (like the 5D Mk III or Nikon D800) is probably the way you would want to go.
I've never gotten the "knack" of video although I do appreciate it and it's fun to play with - but for me, a camera (digital or film) is meant for shooting stills. I guess I'm old fashioned that way
- just like a phone is a phone and not a camera (I'm sure there are many folks out there that would disagree however). Cheers,
Dave The Luddite
but for me, a camera (digital or film) is meant for shooting stills. I guess I'm old fashioned that way
Cheers,
Dave The Luddite
I feel the same way. I don't think we are luddites... it may be that we just don't like convoluted "swiss army" style devices.
Lax Jought
Well-known
Perhaps the wrong camera for the task?
It wouldn't be the wrong camera for me. The closest analogy I can describe here which I'm sure you can understand (seeing as we're in the RFF forum) is how users of Leica cameras describe the simplicity and back-to-basics form of the M cameras as a distinct experience from the DSLR experience. For me personally, I love the rangefinder photography experience by far over the DSLR. My Leica and the single prime lens is a set up I can happily take with me to most photographic circumstances.
As for the video in the XPro1 though, it is so close to the perfect narrative/cinematic filmmaking tool. It's small enough that I can carry everywhere with me, it has the necessary manual prime lens at the three essential lengths that is used in the vast majority of cinematic filmmaking, the APS-C sensor size is roughly the same size as super35mm filmmaking frames which is great, it has awesome ISO performance, and it 'appears' to have decent codec.
One major problem is the shutter, I need full manual control over that which the XPro1 doesn't offer. A second problem is there are apparently no anti-aliasing filters which will create a larger (or more visible distracting) problem in moving pictures than perhaps in still photography. Thirdly, I have yet to see how the XPro1 handles compression in video.
So it's really almost a portable but very capable cinematic kit right there in my hands.
The future is steadily pointing to an amalgamation of both forms of photography (still and moving). I can sort see how it makes sense to develop cameras that can do both as they both sort of share the physical parts and the technology in producing images. The only way where I can see how both forms of photography remain in two separate forms are at the specialty ends of the market. And then it's also a matter of time before the technology catches up I think.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
The future is already here.
The Canon 5D Mk II, the newer Nikons, and everything after that, included that amalgamation that you talk about. "Convergence" is a term used in so many areas but none more so than in the mobile telecommunications field.
Put it this way; they can put all the bells and whistles into an iPhone (music player, camera, calendar, gaming platform, GPS, video camera etc. etc. etc. ) I'm still only going to use it as a phone (and hence the reason why I don't own an iPhone even though I'm mainly a Mac guy). Similarly, while I have the video functionality (and have had it) in the X-Pro1, the x10 and the Ricoh GRD II (and III), I still only use the camera as a camera and not as a video camera.
Like I said, maybe I'm old fashioned - I would prefer my "things" to do the one thing they were designed to do really really well.
So that's why I would say, that unless Fuji decides to really focus (pardon the pun) on making the X-Pro1's video functionality a main selling feature, then you're likely going to have to either "wait" for the right video/still camera for yourself or buy that Canon 5D MK III
Cheers,
Dave
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Agreed
I mean, I like a swiss army knife to be a swiss army knife but I want my phone to just be a phone
Dave