Camera Collecting, The Incurable Passion, How to know if you’re a camera collector and what you can do about it.

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Camera Collecting, The Incurable Passion, Part 1

How to know if you’re a camera collector and what you can do about it.

By Jason Schneider

I took my first tentative steps down the primrose path of camera collecting way back in 1960 when I acquired my first Leica, a display model IIIg with 50mm f/2.8 collapsible Elmar lens in a red Leica snap top display case. The poor thing had been languishing at Village Photo Shop in Rockville Center, Long Island ever since the store first acquired it in 1957 and the kindly old German guy who owned the place took pity on me and let me buy if for 10% below the list price of $273.00. Since he was an authorized Leica dealer at the time, this was strictly verboten, but much appreciated. While I didn’t buy that camera as a collectible, unbeknownst to me, I had been mortally bitten by the Leica bug, and shortly thereafter I acquired two more Leicas in short order. The first one was a gorgeous black Leica II (Model D) with a collapsible nickel-finished 50mm f/2.5 Hektor snagged for the grand sum of $39.50 at Willoughby’s camera store on W. 32nd St. in Manhattan. It had been consigned to the “junk pile” as an “old camera with an uncoated lens” and I didn’t have the heart to haggle over the price. Next came a near-mint 5-digit Leica I (Model A) with a 50mm f/3.5 Elmar I bought from Minifilm (also on 32nd St.) for 60 bucks plus tax after some spirited bargaining.

My first de facto collectible camera, the gorgeous Leica IIIg with collapsible 50mm f:2.8 Elma...png
My first de facto collectible was this gorgeous Leica IIIg with collapsible 50mm f/2.8 Elmar I bought back in 1960 at a whopping 10% discount.

Leica II (Model D) Front View  showing added strap lugs,  nickel hardware and 50mm f:2.5 Hekt...jpeg
Leica II (Model D) of 1932 with collapsible 50mm f/2.5 Hektor. I snagged mine for a paltry $39.50. Ah, the joys of camera collecting in the '60s!

Leica i (Model A) with 50mm f:3.5 Elmar, I snagged mine fir 60 bucks and it's still one of my ...jpg
The iconic Leica 1 (Model A) with 50mm f/3.5 Elmar. I acquired mine for a mere 60 bocks plus sales tax in the '60s, but it took a bit of haggling

For some unfathomable reason, acquiring 3 vintage Leicas in the course of around 6 months seems to have opened the floodgates, and shortly thereafter I began buying old cameras at a furious pace—a 3A Folding Kodak Autographic Special (you could still buy 122 roll film for it until 1970), a 9x12cm Voigtlander Avus film pack and plate camera with a 135mm f/4.5 Skopar and a Rada 120 roll film adapter, a great hulking 4x5 RB Series B Graflex with a B&L Tessar, a flawless pre-war Zeiss Super Ikonta A with an uncoated 70mm f/3.5 Tessar---I could easily go on for 5 more paragraphs, but you get the idea. By 1969, when I presented my idea for a column on camera collecting to the late great Herbert (Burt) Keppler, then Editorial Director at Modern Photography, I had amassed a motley and variegated collection of nearly 100 cameras. Keppler, who became my mentor and lifelong friend, approved the project, and dubbed the monthly column The Camera Collector, a name that stuck when we both moved over to Popular Photography in 1987 and I was named Editor in Chief. The reason Burt Keppler was sympathetic and supportive to what was then a wacky editorial idea is simple—we were kindred spirits. He had been a de facto camera collector for decades, and his collection was at least twice as big as mine! We had both experienced what was, in effect, the golden age of camera collecting, the days before camera collecting was “a thing” and individual camera collectors (with the possible exceptions of Leica, Contax, and Nikon collectors) largely pursued their passion in solitude.

Kodak 3A Autographic Special of 1916 is generally considered the first camera with a built-in...jpeg
Kodak 3A Special of 1916 was first with a built-in coupled rangefinder. I ran plenty of 122 film through mine before they discontinued it in 1970.

RB Series B 4x5 Graflex of the '20s is still a frmidable picture taker and an American classic.jpg
RB Series B 4x5 Graflex of the '20s is a great hulking large format SLR. It's not the last word in convenience but it's a great picture taker!

Prewar Zeiss Super Ikonta A provides 45 x 6cm format on 120 roll film. Mine has an uncoated 7c...jpg
My prewar Zeiss Super Ikonta A is a pocketable medium format classic and its uncoated 7cm f/3.5 Zeiss Tessar lens has gorgeous rendition.

Are you a camera collector? Here’s how you can tell.

If your office, storage room, or shelving units are cluttered with scores of different cameras, many of which you seldom if ever use for taking pictures, you are surely a camera collector by default. However, there are many less virulent cases of collector-itis that qualify.

Warning signs of the dreaded Camera Collecting syndrome:
  • Buying cameras simply because they’re beautiful objects and not intending to use them for making pictures.
  • Buying cameras for which film is not readily available (such as 620, 127, 616, 116, 828, 122 roll film sizes which are only sold at extravagant prices by custom film rolling outfits).
  • Buying film (analog) cameras at all, especially those where the line is no longer in production, like Bronicas, Rolleiflex TLRs, Mamiyas (all format) rangefinder Canons, Nikons, and Contaxes, et al.
  • Buying cameras with the thought of someday using them, but only fondling and firing them from time to time.
  • Making up ingeniously plausible excuses to your spouse regarding the excessive camera purchases that show up on your credit card.
  • Discovering that you have bought more than 10 used cameras on eBay within the last 12 months, all of which are discontinued and no longer available brand new.
  • Buying more than one roll of film per month. The mere act of buying film doesn’t prove you’re a camera collector, but there’s a high correlation between the quantity of film you purchase and whether you’re exhibiting camera collector syndrome.
What kind of camera collector are you, and what can you do about it?

I pride myself on being a user-collector rather than a showcase collector because I have fun making pictures with my vintage classics and confine my purchases to cameras that are fully functional or can be made so at minimal expense. However, cameras can be and often are technological works of art, so I harbor no ill will toward those who display most (or all) of their collectible cameras, nor do I believe user-collectors like me are somehow superior to showcase collectors. I’ve viewed scores of camera collections over the years, and many are breathtaking, equal to what you’d find in any national museum of technology like the Smithsonian. And many if the folks that assembled them have done meticulous research that has enriched the histories of their chosen brands. Finally, I’ve discovered that there are limits to being a user-collector, and I’m a perfect example. I currently own 212 cameras and I currently shoot with about 20 of them, which is less than 10%. Bottom line: most camera collectors display (or hoard) most of their collections and occasionally shoot with the rest. But whichever way you do it, it’s intensely human, an act of love tinged with beady-eyed acquisitiveness.

Camera collecting strategies: It pays to have one!

I will confess to being a haphazard collector—my personal collection ruins the gamut from common box cameras and low-end, scale-focusing 35s, to elite rangefinder 35s, to a staggering variety if 2-1/4 x 2-1/4 twin lens reflexes, to a splendiferous assortment if folding 35mm and roll film cameras, to a passel of vintage 4x5 and 8 x 10 view cameras—and much, much more. In short, my collection is sprawling and undisciplined, much like its owner. Therefore, all the following great advice gleaned from my 65+ years of camera collecting falls under that ever-popular category of “Do as I say, not as I do.”

Scarce Koniflex II, one of the many semi-exotic TLRs in my collerction, is a great shooter.jpg

The Koniflex II of the '50s is one of far too many 2-1/4 TLRs in my collection. It's beautifully made and has a superb 85mm f/3.5 Hexagon lens.

Specialize. It’s generally much more rewarding to concentrate on a single type or brand of camera than to just collect cameras willy-nilly as I have done. For example, I recently viewed a stunning display of rangefinder Canons beginning with the Canon S-II of the late ‘40s and ending with the last model in series production, the coveted Canon 7sZ that finished in late 1968. The happy owner, who also shoots with some of his 100 or so Canons, confesses that he hasn’t been able to find earlier bayonet mount Canons with Nikkor lenses such as the iconic Hansa Canon (Kwanon) of 1935-1940 and the Canon S of 1938-1945 at affordable prices. However, he has supplemented his Canon collection with some captivating examples of Canon’s erstwhile competitors, the Leotax, Tanack, Honor, and Nicca.

Canon S-!! of 1946-1949 %22Made in Occupied Japan%22 with 50mm f:3.5 collapsible Serenar lens.jpg
Canon S-II of 1946-1949 was stamped "Made in Occupied Japan." A collector's prize, it's fitted with an outstanding 50mm f/3.5 Serenar lens,

Specialization is a gradient, and many experienced camera collectors specialize in 2 or 3 camera categories and brands and will occasionally snap up an interesting “out of category” camera that turns up at a great price, possibly with the intention of eventually swapping it for a hard to find “in category” camera.

Set standards. There are a few collectors out there who claim that that won’t buy a camera unless it’s in mint condition. Good luck to them, because I have found that 99% of used cameras described as “mint” have minor cosmetic defects of one kind or another—typically minor scratches, paint loss, issues with the leatherette covering, or cleaning marks on the lens. If you really want a “mint” camera, try to find one listed as “new in box,” and even then, perfectionists are likely to be disappointed—unless the camera in question has literally never been unpacked, in which case the seller can only post a photo of the “sealed” box.

New Old Stock Canon A-1 and case. Really %22%22mint%22? Maybe..png
If you really want a "mint" camera, and are willing to pay extra, find a new old stock or unused example like this Canon A-1 in original packing.

My personal criteria are as follows: I will not pay a substantial premium for a camera listed as “mint” or “new in box,” but I do confine my purchases to cameras that are very clean and fully functional with as few blemishes as possible. I will accept a few minor surface scratches, especially in inconspicuous places, and a neatly and discreetly engraved owner’s name or I.D. number is OK. I will not, except in the rarest of cases, purchase a camera that is dented or shows brass through the chrome or black finish (I know there are many collectors that adore “brassed” cameras). An exception: My beautiful Nikon S, which is fully functional and fitted with a near mint 50mm f/1.4 Nikkor-S.C lens, but has a teensy bit of brass showing near the front viewfinder window and a couple of shallow dents, and circular tripod-mounting scratches on the bottom plate. Note: There are no official standards for purchasing vintage cameras—you must set your own—and bear in mind that all those descriptive adjectives used by sellers reflect their personal opinions (maybe with a bit if hype added) and may not reflect your own.

Nikon S  with 50mm f:21,4 Nikkor-S.C lens.Nte slight brassing near front viewfinder window,.jpg
My beautiful Nikon S is one if the few cameras I've ever bought with slight "brassing" and minor dents in] the bottom plate. I still love it!

Beware the repair trap. You may well find that the collectible camera if your dreams that checks all the boxes in your “must have” list requires some repairs, especially if you intend to shoot with it. But not all repairs are created equal. Rangefinders that work but are out of adjustment, shutters that fire at all speeds but are too slow, dusty viewfinders, mirrors and viewing screens, and meters that read too high or too low can usually be repaired at reasonable cost. Shutters and rangefinders that don’t work at all may not be repairable, replacing perforated shutter curtains is time consuming, very expensive, and not every repair shop will do it, and meters that are dead may be irreparable without replacing the meter cell or mechanism, which are often unobtainable. Even old cameras that appear to work perfectly should really be checked out and C.L.A.-ed by a competent repair person before you rely on them for taking pictures on film, which is, after all, a labor intensive and expensive undertaking in 2024.

Vpoigtlander Avus 9x12cm with excellene 13.5cm f:4.5 Skopar lens in old dial-set Compur shutter.jpg
Voigtlander Avus 9 x12 cm film pack and plate camera of the '20s. I can still use it because it came with a Rada 6x9 cm 120 roll film adapter

Never buy cameras sold “As Is, No Returns Accepted.” The only time you should even think about buying a collectible camera sold “as Is” is if you’re willing to risk losing the entire purchase price on the outside chance that it may be repairable at reasonable cost, or you’re buying it for parts, and the price is irresistible. I’ve done this riverboat gambler thing about a dozen times in the last 10-15 years and have been burned nearly 70% of the time, so, in the immortal words if the ancient Romans, caveat emptor.

Best advice: Buy cameras only from reputable sellers (eBay sellers with over 100 sales and a 99+% seller rating are usually a good bet) and make sure that the return time frame (typically 2-4 weeks) is sufficient for you to get it back to the seller for a full refund, which, incidentally, includes the original taxes paid and your original shipping cost. Normally the return shipping cost is on you, but some dealers offer “free returns,” which means they will add your return shipping cost when they post your refund, a plus.

Make friends with an experienced repair person familiar with repairing vintage cameras: Sadly, most people who fall into this category are getting on a bit, and many have retired, so vintage camera repair specialists are getting harder to find. One we can recommend is Ryan Jones of Pro Camera of Charlottesville, VA, Happily, this 40+ years old company has hired two new young technicians who are learning the age-old craft, so there’s hope for all of us.

Have fun shooting with your vintage classics! Even if you’re primarily a showcase collector there’s nothing quite so satisfying as walking around with an ancient camera and taking pictures with it. Aside from sheet film, the only film sizes generally available are 120 roll film and 35mm, but both are widely sold in a variety of black and white and color emulsions, including ISO 100 to ISO 800 color print and color transparency films, and black-and-white films with speeds ranging from IS0 40 to ISO 3200. Many of the vintage lenses on your goldy-oldie classics also capture that breathless quality known as “the vintage look.” So, if anyone taps you on the shoulder and questions your sanity when they notice the antique you’re shooting with, you can just say you’re doing it for art’s sake—just like the Ars Gratia Artis banner below the roaring MGM lion, which is now, in this shamelessly illiterate era, preceded by the English translation, “Art for Art’s Sake.”
 
"Are you a camera collector? Here’s how you can tell."
- You started reading the "Camera Collector" column when you were 12.
- You shared "Camera Collector" articles with your wife, telling her this is where you got the "bug" from.
- Your Wife asks you for suggestions for Presents for Birthday, Christmas, Anniversary- and is used to getting you another lens or camera.
- Jason Schneider is your camera collecting role model.
 
I was bitten by the bug in the late 1990s, when I found a Yashica YK in a junk shop. I took it home, fixed it up, and put a film through it. I determined to buy more interesting low value cameras, and now have more than 70, a mixture of 35mm SLRs and rangefinders. I appalled my wife, early on, when I bought a dozen dismantled cameras for $1 each - I managed to assemble 3 of them, all early Canonets. Most of the SLR cameras I have are M42 - Prakticas, Zenits, Pentaxes...My latest purchases, though, have been a Kiev 4, and a very sad Contax II.
 
"Are you a camera collector? Here’s how you can tell."
- You started reading the "Camera Collector" column when you were 12.
- You shared "Camera Collector" articles with your wife, telling her this is where you got the "bug" from.
- Your Wife asks you for suggestions for Presents for Birthday, Christmas, Anniversary- and is used to getting you another lens or camera.
- Jason Schneider is your camera collecting role model.
Oy vey, the thought that anybody would consider me their role model is, um, frightening, but I guess there are worse compulsions than collecting cameras. Don't ask me how I know. Anyway, Good Hunting!
 
I do try to stick to things that are practical but aesthetics will always have an impact. It keeps my budget slightly happier :D

If it's any consolation, Jason, I'd have to add to Brian's list
" - Brian Sweeney is your other role model. " ;)
 
Another one to add to your list. Your family knows that you collect cameras so they buy you some vintage camera as a gift (which happened to me this past Christmas).

Jim B.
 
Or you get sent "Care packages" by people at non-photographic forums. Alas the last one was an all fungus-ed and messed up Argus but hey, he was thinking of me ;)
 
Jason, thanks for the article! I have a buncha Canon and Contax cameras, along with a smattering of other cameras. I have a lot more lenses, by a factor of 15. Not a camera collector as much as a lens collector/accumulator.
 
Great article, very informative, self deprecating and funny. Friends ask how my camera collection is going. I tell them it is not a collection. I have six digital camera, only really three in regular use. There are two M digital Leicas and three film M Leicas and two Barnacks (three, but the third defunct). I have an original X100 Fuji. There are two Olympus OMs, only one in use, a Rolleiflex, occasionally used and a Hasselblad regularly used and a Hexar AF with a new battery last week and loaded with film right now. I claim it is not a collection as nearly all have had the battery charged/film loaded in the last twelve months. And I don't think I have bought a new camera in five years.
 
Hi Jason, what a great article. I think I display all of the warning signs/symptoms that you listed. I usually take the risk and only buy the ‘as is/for parts’ cameras and hope my skills are good enough to get them working again. I like fixing and taking apart things and cameras with issues are always a little cheaper. Sometimes you have accumulated enough spare parts to be confident of getting certain cameras working again.
Nathan
 
Great article, very informative, self deprecating and funny. Friends ask how my camera collection is going. I tell them it is not a collection. I have six digital camera, only really three in regular use. There are two M digital Leicas and three film M Leicas and two Barnacks (three, but the third defunct). I have an original X100 Fuji. There are two Olympus OMs, only one in use, a Rolleiflex, occasionally used and a Hasselblad regularly used and a Hexar AF with a new battery last week and loaded with film right now. I claim it is not a collection as nearly all have had the battery charged/film loaded in the last twelve months. And I don't think I have bought a new camera in five years.
Thanks for your kind words, but beware. After re-reading your post I think you might be turning into a camera collector! Cheers, and happy shooting.
 
Jason,

Until I started to read and then eagerly look forward to the next monthly CAMERA COLLECTOR column, it never occurred to me to collect cameras.

That is probably true of a lot of collectors. Your 3 books on camera collecting are still available on ebay and are MUST haves for any collector who does not already own them.

I once traded a near mint Nikon SP with 50/1.1 External lens for a near mint M3 outfit with 3 lenses because I would USE the Leica. Alas, the Leica was just not as satisfying to me to shoot. I regretted that trade for years until I found two new SP's with five new lenses, advertised in a Saugus California weekly newspaper spotted in a tiny Saugus diner.
Yep, I still have that outfit. If you saw the movie MANK, Saugus is the desert area where Mank wrote Citizen Kane.

Thank you so much Jason, I was very corrupted....eh learned a lot from you.

Stephen
 
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This thread brings up an immortal line from a 1960s musical.

"Who are you? Who do you think you are? Who do you want to be?"

Respectfully, and I hope common-sensically, if as I once did you have 40-50 60-80-100 cameras and you haven't used almost all of them in the last year, you are a collector. Enough said. Sympathy, flowers, memorials (eventually).

If as I want to be in my recurring fantasy of an ideal life, you have 6-8-10 cameras and you use them (or try to use them) regularly, you are a camera user.

If you are at some place in the middle, you are like most of us. This is where I now find myself.

In which case, have a double G&T and stress-relieve yourself. Life is too short for camera angst.

Let's not go into the price of film. Which I reckon would do in this thread.

All the cameras JS acquired for pence in the pound in the heyday are no longer affordable. If you doubt this, spend a few minutes browsing on Ebay. This will be a valuable education in the relaities of life in Century 21. If you don't believe me, Ebay-Google "Praktika".

All this duly opined, another truly fine article, JS...
 
Wonderful thread and so much "Truth" as to a justification of this "Hobby". It caught me in the early 90's when I was managing a local camera store and saw some Japanese buyers eagerly paying way more than they should for middle of the road conditioned Leicas. I thought, I need to acquire some knowledge about these classics, instead of concentrating on the latest, greatest from Nikon, Canon, Minolta. Especially, when we had a great used camera department, and a customer base who had originally bought some of these cameras, new, and finally decided they needed a new auto focus camera or as time went on, those new fangled Digitals. Also, there was always the market for a trade in of Granpa's old classic, by his heirs, which was found in his closet after his passing, for something newer to take pictures of the grandchildren or latest new pet.
If this wasn't enough, then finally the advent of Ebay happened, which brought the World to your fingertips. My collection continued to grow larger as unimaginable rare treasures presented themselves, with the thought of never having seen a camera, lens, or accessory ever for sale for many years of looking. There have been times when the thought of enough is enough has crossed my mind, but in truth, I'm always on the lookout for that one more piece.... an Addict for sure.
 
When I was a student, I subscribed pop photo and read Mr. Kaplan and Mr. Schneider's articles. At one time I had more than 200 cameras, but I am not a collector rather a tinkerer. I have shutter tester, autocollimator, also I can use my friend's optical bench if needed. It is fun to bring the dead back to life and enjoy the fine mechanic master piece. Leica price surged when Japanese collectors start to pay premium in USA and European market, now is the Chinese collectors. The demise/diminish of film photography has hurt the camera collection.
 
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I've been tinkering with cameras since 11 years old- neighbor gave me an electric drive 8mm movie camera that did not work, I found the bad connection, fixed it.
So- try to repair anything bought in poor state. Try to leave the cameras and lenses that I buy in better off than when I got them.
 
This thread brings up an immortal line from a 1960s musical.

"Who are you? Who do you think you are? Who do you want to be?"

Respectfully, and I hope common-sensically, if as I once did you have 40-50 60-80-100 cameras and you haven't used almost all of them in the last year, you are a collector. Enough said. Sympathy, flowers, memorials (eventually).

If as I want to be in my recurring fantasy of an ideal life, you have 6-8-10 cameras and you use them (or try to use them) regularly, you are a camera user.

If you are at some place in the middle, you are like most of us. This is where I now find myself.

In which case, have a double G&T and stress-relieve yourself. Life is too short for camera angst.

Let's not go into the price of film. Which I reckon would do in this thread.

All the cameras JS acquired for pence in the pound in the heyday are no longer affordable. If you doubt this, spend a few minutes browsing on Ebay. This will be a valuable education in the relaities of life in Century 21. If you don't believe me, Ebay-Google "Praktika".

All this duly opined, another truly fine article, JS...
Thanks for your kind words. I always sorta liked Prakticas, but the Praktina FX intrigues me more--though I never sprung for one, even back in the day when they were pretty cheap. As for products of the VEB Pentacon consortium, I am happy afflicted by 3 (count 'em ) Pentacon 6 TL's, which I enjoy shooting with even though they occasionally act up. When they're working they're excellent picture takers that capture that ineffable "vintage look."
 
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