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old 10-27-2018  
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Tom Abrahamsson Knowledge Base Volunteers Wanted!

Tom A was famous for generously sharing his bountiful photographic knowledge.

We at RFF are fortunate that most of Tom's writings are on RFF.

Tom's thoughts and knowledge are spread over 6071 posts, often overlapping in subject matter and multiple posts.

We are seeking volunteers to work together and organize Tom's writings into the Tom Abrahamsson Knowledge Base.

Tuulikki Abrahamsson has given her blessing to this project, and will own the copyrighted result. Tuulikki will have final edit.

Tom's Knowledge Base will be published on RapidWinder.com, RangeFinderForum.com and CameraQuest.com.

Time will tell if Tom's words are published in book form.

So, if you want to help shape what will be one of photography's best sources, speak up!

This will be a collaborative effort, editing and combining many posts into a working source.

Stephen

 




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old 10-28-2018
dleyva2
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I am interested in collaborating. Please let me know how I can be of help.
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Bille
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Are you able to export all posts in one big text file or would the team have to dig through 6000 posts manually?
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Rob-F
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I am interested in collaborating. Please let me know how I can be of help.
I'd like to help. How would this task be structured?

Tom had some interesting Leica projects, mentioned in the Leica M Compendium by Jonathan Eastland. He mentions the Rapidwinder, the 21mm Super-Angulon goggles, and the M4-3-2, an M4-2 with M3 framelines (picture of it on page 167).
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Peter Wijninga
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What range of skills and abilities are you looking for?
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Benjamin Marks
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Stephen: I would be happy to lend a hand. I think the posts above indicate interest in how to organize a crowd-sourced project like this. Are you imagining a chronological organization of material, or a topic-based "book" with chapters? I would think to publish something out in the world, you'd need consents of Tom's interlocutors as well, because a random post without the back-and-forth of the dialog that RFF encourages might not make as much sense or be of as much value. . . So: color me interested, and like the posters above I'd like to hear more about the shape of things and where individuals wanting to help with a Tom-Wiki might lend a hand.
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willie_901
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Please describe how Forum members will access this information?

Where there be a scalable database designed to avoid legacy software issues?

Will the solution be able serve other, similar purposes?
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aizan
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that would be an amazing resource, and i'd be happy to help. i have an mlis degree, and i'm familiar with creating taxonomies and crowdsourcing classification.
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CameraQuest
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folks, this is a new topic to me too - so I am no expert what can be done or the best way to do it.

yes, we can export the posts, but they would still have to be considered in the context of the thread. For instance the M2 was a favorite Tom topic. There might be 20+ posts under a "Leica M2" heading

Working from a common google document source? or ?

I am open to the best way present this info. I was envisioning a searchable html document. Guessing it will be 20 to 30 pages - but that is totally a guess on my part.

Not sure if a database is needed, but what ever works best.

What is the best way do this ?
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rhl-oregon
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that would be an amazing resource, and i'd be happy to help. i have an mlis degree, and i'm familiar with creating taxonomies and crowdsourcing classification.
Nice! Should we expand this to:

Calling all (digital) librarians on RFF?
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aizan
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why not?

what's the scale of the project and the desired presentation? the outcome can be anything from a basic Google Spreadsheet or website to a wiki. they have different interfaces and costs, so it all depends on our resources and how Tuulikki Abrahamsson and the head bartender want to package this information for use.

who's in, and what skills do you have? my technical skills are half-decent but amateur (i.e., i can set up an online forum, but i can't code a new piece of software or write scripts from scratch), and i took several classes on informatics, though that wasn't my specialization in school.
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Contarama
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I bet there are members who have emails and/or pm messages from Tom. That was how I communicated with him when I had a question. He always replied too.
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rhl-oregon
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Well, I am retired—and from an academic/university life—so can search and compile results wherever the experts point me. Add my name to the busy bees list.
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Good Tom A. thread to include
Rob-F
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Here is a nice thread with lots of input from Tom, that would contribute to this effort!
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/for...t=58790&page=2
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BillBingham2
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Sign me up.

B2 (;->>>>>
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Rob-F
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Maybe what needs to happen right now is just for us to start posting links to threads or posts we believe would be worthy of inclusion.
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aizan
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I guess we should write out a project charter and assign roles. Here’s a list of the volunteers so far:

Benjamin_Marks
BillBingham2
Contarama
dleyva
Peter_Wijninga
rhl-oregon
Rob-F
willie_901

We should also write a project proposal with Stephen and Tuulikki.

After that, we can make a plan and take a look at an export of all of Tom’s posts.
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splitimageview
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There should be a relatively simple way to do this. A listing of Tom’s posts could be created using a search on his member number in the forum database, and then the associated threads that contain those posts could be duplicated and moved into a new forum. Once that is done the threads could be sorted by topic. This would be a static forum/knowledgebase, with no new/continuing posts. New threads in other forums could link/refer to threads in the knowledgebase and of course it would be searchable by the usual methods.
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steveyork
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This is a very cool idea. He had so much first hand experience with a lot of stuff.

A year or so ago I read through some of Tom's old posts, and it was very informative, but I could only go back 1000 posts or so. I'm sure Steve can work his magic to open up the rest of them.
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Id be happy to help.
pixelman
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I would be happy to help in a way I can. I also should have some older personal emails from Tom and a few photos.
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aizan
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I'll finally have some free time this weekend, so I'll start writing a draft of the project charter. We'll have to sort out some details to finish it up, so be sure to check back on Monday.
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aizan
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Ok, maybe I didn't have time over the weekend. I'll try again this weekend when I'm in a food coma.
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I can help
Eric T
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Stephen,
What a wonderful idea! I can help write/edit. Tom was a great guy and I am very happy to help build his well-deserved legacy.
Best regards,
Eric
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CameraQuest
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Folks,

I've been occupied with lots of stuff, but lately the local wild fires were a problem and kept my focus elsewhere.

Now things are starting get back to normal.

Stephen
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aizan
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Ok, here's a draft of the project charter for public comments. I've also posted it to Google Docs, but I'll need your email if you want to add comments there. Volunteers, PM me your email (I'll PM anyone who doesn't see this post).

We need volunteers for technical manager and volunteer coordinator (and any other roles you can think of, e.g., publicist).

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Project Title: Tom Abrahamsson Knowledge Base

Authorization: Stephen Gandy and Tuulikki Abrahamsson

Brief Description: Tom Abrahamsson's thoughts and knowledge are spread over 6071 posts. This project aims to organize and edit this information into an online resource [Wiki, Zendesk, HTML website, etc.?] that can be easily consulted by [the film and rangefinder photography community].

Scope and Goals: Project volunteers will classify all 6071 posts by Tom into an estimated 20 to 30 topics and rewrite the information into articles. [Stephen Gandy and volunteers] will then create a [Wiki, Zendesk, HTML website, etc.?] to publish the articles. Citations will link to Tom's original posts on RangeFinderForum.com so that readers can understand the context in which the information was originally presented. This project will allow members of the film and rangefinder community to consult Tom's knowledge in a more useful format, thereby sustaining his legacy. The resulting knowledge base will be completed by [what month], 2019, and it will be published on RapidWinder.com, RangeFinderForum.com, and CameraQuest.com. It will complement CameraQuest.com and RangeFinderForum.com as valuable, authoritative, and trustworthy sources of information on film and rangefinder photography.

Deliverables:
1. Project plan and workflow.
2. Spreadsheet of all 6071 posts, classified into an estimated 20 to 30 topics.
3. Articles on each topic with citations to all posts.
4. [Wiki, Zendesk, HTML website, etc.?] knowledge base published on RapidWinder.com, RangeFinderForum.com, and CameraQuest.com.

Stakeholders:
• Stephen Gandy
• Tuulikki Abrahamsson
• Members of RangeFinderForum.com
• Members of the film and rangefinder photography community

Users: Members of the film and rangefinder photography community. Customers of RapidWinder.com and CameraQuest.com. Members of RangeFinderForum.com.

Project Organization:
• Sponsors: Stephen Gandy (CameraQuest.com, RangeFinderForum.com) and Tuulikki Abrahamsson (RapidWinder.com)
• Project Manager: aizan (R. Aizan Sasayama)
• Volunteer Coordinator: [any volunteers?]
• Technical Manager: [any volunteers?]

Volunteers: Self-nominated. The volunteer coordinator will assign tasks to individual volunteers as permitted by their availability.

Roles and Responsibilities:
• Sponsors: Make top level decisions about the classification, editing, and publication of the knowledge base. Provide leadership, information, and resources to the project manager, volunteer coordinator, and technical manager to reach project milestones and meet project goals. Are authorized to access and modify any document or system.
• Project Manager: Communicates with the sponsors, volunteer coordinator, and technical manager to plan the project, assign tasks, and track progress. Will deliver a project plan to the sponsors by December 15, 2018. Will complete a preliminary classification survey of posts with sponsors and technical manager by [January 1, 2019]. Provides bi-weekly status reports to the sponsors. Maintains project management applications [Google Drive, Slack, Trello?]. Is authorized to access and modify any document.
• Volunteer Coordinator: Communicates with volunteers to determine their availability and assign tasks accordingly. Creates style guide for articles. Trains volunteers on workflow, reviews classification of posts and editing of articles to ensure quality. Provides project manager with a bi-weekly status report of new volunteers and cancellations, and notifies project manager of volunteer concerns as needed. Is authorized to access and modify any document.
• Technical Manager: Communicates with sponsors to determine technical resources for the knowledge base platform. Communicates with project manager and volunteer coordinator to set up workflow infrastructure. Implements the knowledge base. Is authorized to access and modify any document or system.
• Volunteers: Reads and classifies posts according to the preliminary classification survey, proposes new topics if discovered. Edits posts into articles and adds citations according to the style guide and spreadsheet of classified posts. Communicates concerns with the volunteer coordinator. Authorized to access the post spreadsheet and the articles.

Communication and Project Management Apps:
All communication amongst the sponsors, project manager, volunteer coordinator, and technical manager will take place on [PMs, Slack, email?]. Communication between the volunteer coordinator and the volunteers will take place in a new forum thread: Tom Abrahamsson Knowledge Base Project. Tasks and time frames will be posted on Trello.


After volunteer coordinator and technical manager are chosen:

Project Plan: [phases, activities, milestones, timeframes, dependencies]
Resources: [labor, tools, platform]
Success Assessment: [how we define a successful project]
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silvano
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Hi to all...
Very interesting project. Let me know if and how I can help.
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CameraQuest
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Ok, here's a draft of the project charter for public comments. I've also posted it to Google Docs, but I'll need your email if you want to add comments there. Volunteers, PM me your email (I'll PM anyone who doesn't see this post).

We need volunteers for technical manager and volunteer coordinator (and any other roles you can think of, e.g., publicist).

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Project Title: Tom Abrahamsson Knowledge Base

Authorization: Stephen Gandy and Tuulikki Abrahamsson

Brief Description: Tom Abrahamsson's thoughts and knowledge are spread over 6071 posts. This project aims to organize and edit this information into an online resource [Wiki, Zendesk, HTML website, etc.?] that can be easily consulted by [the film and rangefinder photography community].

Scope and Goals: Project volunteers will classify all 6071 posts by Tom into an estimated 20 to 30 topics and rewrite the information into articles. [Stephen Gandy and volunteers] will then create a [Wiki, Zendesk, HTML website, etc.?] to publish the articles. Citations will link to Tom's original posts on RangeFinderForum.com so that readers can understand the context in which the information was originally presented. This project will allow members of the film and rangefinder community to consult Tom's knowledge in a more useful format, thereby sustaining his legacy. The resulting knowledge base will be completed by [what month], 2019, and it will be published on RapidWinder.com, RangeFinderForum.com, and CameraQuest.com. It will complement CameraQuest.com and RangeFinderForum.com as valuable, authoritative, and trustworthy sources of information on film and rangefinder photography.

Deliverables:
1. Project plan and workflow.
2. Spreadsheet of all 6071 posts, classified into an estimated 20 to 30 topics.
3. Articles on each topic with citations to all posts.
4. [Wiki, Zendesk, HTML website, etc.?] knowledge base published on RapidWinder.com, RangeFinderForum.com, and CameraQuest.com.

Stakeholders:
Stephen Gandy
Tuulikki Abrahamsson
Members of RangeFinderForum.com
Members of the film and rangefinder photography community

Users: Members of the film and rangefinder photography community. Customers of RapidWinder.com and CameraQuest.com. Members of RangeFinderForum.com.

Project Organization:
Sponsors: Stephen Gandy (CameraQuest.com, RangeFinderForum.com) and Tuulikki Abrahamsson (RapidWinder.com)
Project Manager: aizan (R. Aizan Sasayama)
Volunteer Coordinator: [any volunteers?]
Technical Manager: [any volunteers?]

Volunteers: Self-nominated. The volunteer coordinator will assign tasks to individual volunteers as permitted by their availability.

Roles and Responsibilities:
Sponsors: Make top level decisions about the classification, editing, and publication of the knowledge base. Provide leadership, information, and resources to the project manager, volunteer coordinator, and technical manager to reach project milestones and meet project goals. Are authorized to access and modify any document or system.
Project Manager: Communicates with the sponsors, volunteer coordinator, and technical manager to plan the project, assign tasks, and track progress. Will deliver a project plan to the sponsors by December 15, 2018. Will complete a preliminary classification survey of posts with sponsors and technical manager by [January 1, 2019]. Provides bi-weekly status reports to the sponsors. Maintains project management applications [Google Drive, Slack, Trello?]. Is authorized to access and modify any document.
Volunteer Coordinator: Communicates with volunteers to determine their availability and assign tasks accordingly. Creates style guide for articles. Trains volunteers on workflow, reviews classification of posts and editing of articles to ensure quality. Provides project manager with a bi-weekly status report of new volunteers and cancellations, and notifies project manager of volunteer concerns as needed. Is authorized to access and modify any document.
Technical Manager: Communicates with sponsors to determine technical resources for the knowledge base platform. Communicates with project manager and volunteer coordinator to set up workflow infrastructure. Implements the knowledge base. Is authorized to access and modify any document or system.
Volunteers: Reads and classifies posts according to the preliminary classification survey, proposes new topics if discovered. Edits posts into articles and adds citations according to the style guide and spreadsheet of classified posts. Communicates concerns with the volunteer coordinator. Authorized to access the post spreadsheet and the articles.

Communication and Project Management Apps:
All communication amongst the sponsors, project manager, volunteer coordinator, and technical manager will take place on [PMs, Slack, email?]. Communication between the volunteer coordinator and the volunteers will take place in a new forum thread: Tom Abrahamsson Knowledge Base Project. Tasks and time frames will be posted on Trello.


After volunteer coordinator and technical manager are chosen:

Project Plan: [phases, activities, milestones, timeframes, dependencies]
Resources: [labor, tools, platform]
Success Assessment: [how we define a successful project]
looks good to me.
what I can provide is all the posts,
sorted by the forum they were posted in.

of course a search of them will also bring up whatever subjects you might be searching for.

Stephen
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aizan
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Great! I can probably look at the export of posts and make a project plan, etc. on Sunday, so I'll set up Google Drive, Slack, and Trello when I get home.

Would any of the current volunteers like to be the volunteer coordinator? Also, it would be great if someone here who has the latest web design skills could be the technical manager, but I can do that in a pinch.
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