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Old 10-16-2011   #1
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M9-P with Zunow 50/1.1 and Kinoptik Fulgior 50/1.3

Went out shooting with Menos today in Shanghai

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M9-P with Zunow 50/1.1 and Kinoptik Fulgior 50/1.3
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M9-P with Zunow 50/1.1 and Kinoptik Fulgior 50/1.3

Zunow 50/1.1 @1.4


Zunow 50/1.1 Wide open


Kinoptik Fulgior 50/1.3 wide open
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Dear Andrew,

Rather nice pics with super-rare lenses, though I think some of the pics on your other thread (Astro Berlin) are even better. Then again, I find it hard to believe that the lens really matters all that much: just about any 50mm will give good pictures if used right, and you're using 'em right.

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The OOf rendering looks strange/ This lens is a rare lens, and as Roger said in your other thread, it is the photographer who is good.
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It is the glow!!!
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Wow, is the surface behind the iris severely degraded? I had one of these lenses.

It is a very typical fault - perhaps due to oil, perhaps coating degradation.

Mine never showed the bokeh that you have though.

Unfortunately a repair attempt on my lens failed, and rendered it unusable.


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Did you sell your lens then and is it still OK for portraits? :-)
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This copy is in pristine condition, it does glow when it is wide open.
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Yes, I sold it in the spring, as "Parts, as is".

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Old 10-16-2011   #10
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it's like Gaussian Blur was applied specially the last pic. If not then this lens has real character I've ever seen on a lens.
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Old 10-16-2011   #11
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This lens does what it does beautifully, and good work from AWSLEE for nailing the focus....'Leica glow is supreme?!?' .....yeah whatever!?!
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People on this forum often speak about the revered (and occasionally derided) but somewhat mysterious and elusive 'Leica glow'. What we see here, in these very interesting shots from the Zunow 50/1.1, is this special glow taking an extraordinary form. I for one am fascinated by these images, and I am sure many others will be too. Thanks Awslee for a great contribution.
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I agree; one image looks like IR photography. I like them all.
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Very interesting, I really like #2.
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Wow, that is different. I quite like the look. I'll be in Shanghai shortly... Not sure if I'll capture anything that spectactular, though! Nice work.

My favorite local camera shop owner's father had a Zunow 1.1. He doesn't have it anymore, unfortunately. Now, seeing these images, I really wish he did. He said their family album had lots of images from the Zunow... I wonder if they ever looked like this. I will ask him.
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I got similar results when a element in the front group of my Noctilux had come loose... Nice photos, though !
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These shots are great! I much prefer the character of the lens in these shots. In the wide open B&W shots, its character is a little over powering. Just my opinion of course
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Yikes, it's hard to tell if that's bokeh or finger-painting!

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I'm torn between thinking 'really cool' and 'optical freak show!'

Please post more so I can decide!
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This is a very special lens! Beautiful images it renders. The photographer is good too This lens is definitely NOT a normal 50mm though. It's like the aberrations of the Canon 50mm f/1.2 on steroids. I own the Canon lens and it's the fastest lens I've ever had. I've gotten to play with an original f/1.2 as well as later f/1 Noctilux and they all were very interesting optics to work with. Right now I'm becoming reacquainted with my rigid chrome Summicron 50mm but posts like this one are inspiring to take the f/1.2 Canon out for a day or two.
The good thing about the Zunow is that GAS isn't an option due to its rarity and expense!
Lovely shots in both threads of the Zunow images.

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Wow, talk about an 'anti-flat field' lens! Looks like a tilt shift lens, awesome
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WTB: Zunow 5cm 1.1 lens for Leica screw mount ;-)
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Thank you all for looking, and @Keith, that is the best comment I have come across so far!!! ;-))))
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awslee how about some more pictures?
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Really interesting, thank you.
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This lens seems to have all the aberations of pre-WWI lenses. You get comparable effects if you smear some vaselin on your lenses
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I've used one of those Zunow lenses and I never got those effects wide open.

I would guess one of the elements is decentered, loose, or there is some other problem with the lens.

What happens when you stop down to f5.6 or so? Is everything sharp or do you have uneven fields of focus?
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Here is the post with the lens stop down to 1.4

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=111797

I have had used other 50/1.1 before, they all wild bokeh when it is wide open.

This lens is in pristine condition as far as I can tell
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Good to see something out of the norm. Not sure I love it, but it is interesting.
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These shots are great! I much prefer the character of the lens in these shots. In the wide open B&W shots, its character is a little over powering. Just my opinion of course
Funny, I was thinking that too.

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Wow guys … what a bashing ;-)

Great shots btw Andrew - I have been there and nailing focus with this lens, especially with the first shot is a skill on it's own not many have.

I really like the first frame, the freaky oof effects work very well for me, to emphasize the chaotic packing of the freight and the effort necessary, to move the lorry.

For the shocked people here in the thread, every thing with the rendering of this lens is totally fine.
The scenes, it has been used have been bright sun lit scenes with lots of small light particles breaking through leaves or reflected.
Any old super fast lens of this vintage will show similar effects. The Zunow really boosts these up visually - interesting effects ;-)

It would be very interesting, to see a Zunow 1.1, Nikkor 50 1.1, Canon 0.95, Leitz 50 1.2 comparison with such subjects.
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Dirk, such comparison being done already, the Zunow has the wildest bokeh wide open. It is not for everyone, you either like it or you hate it.
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Andrew, the Zunow looks almost modern/ clean in that first shot!

Love that effect on the flowers with the Kinoptik ;-)
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Yes, this is shot @ 1.4 to show that the lens is not defected as some may have suggest. I guess it is just a matter of taste and as you know, I love old lens much more than modern lens.
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