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Another print swap?
Old 03-23-2010   #1
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Another print swap?

It's been a while since the last print swap and I wonder if anyone fancies another. I've thoughts on a couple of different approches that might work:

1. Same as the previous swap - all interested members PM me with their details and I will organise pairs to swap prints. Pluses are that it's easy, negative is that I cannot guarantee that everyone will receive a print if your partner fails to send one. This happened to a couple of people last time.

2. If the group is a manageable size and there is sufficient interest, I will investigate a portfolio approach. My thoughts are that each participant provides a print or print ready digital file. I will print up the appropriate number of portfolios using my HP Z3100 printer (I would need to investigate box sizes/packaging to manage costs) and post out to all participants. Pluses - you get more prints and don't lose out because someone fails to play and it's different. Negatives - I would need to charge costs (not profit) so it will cost money, it will take me a few weeks to copy/print the portfolios, the prints would be the best I can make, but might be slightly different that the original.

If anyone is interested please PM me and let me know which option you would prefer.

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Old 04-15-2010   #2
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I think this is a great idea, I hope we can get some more people in on this thread. If this happens I'm definitely in.
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Old 04-15-2010   #3
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I'd like to participate in another print swap. Having done several, it was a good experience. I think I missed the last one or two. The portfolio idea is intriguing, and would add more value, sort of in the direction of the Lulu books we did. The traditional one-on-one swaps were fine too, and put more of the creative control in the hands of the contributors.
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Print Swap - May 2010
Old 04-29-2010   #4
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Print Swap - May 2010

OK, some people have replied and I'll organise another print swap.

I'll put up some details later tonight, but register here and be ready to send me a pm with details (what is needed will be listed later).

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I'd like to participate, but can print and send only after half of May.
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Old 04-29-2010   #6
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Could this possibly be country based? I'd be pleased to participate in a US or North American group where the shipping would be low.
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I'll give a "definite maybe", depending on what the details are
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Old 04-29-2010   #8
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Count me in. I print pretty large, however.
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Old 04-29-2010   #11
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Sounds interesting.
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Sounds like fun - why not - I wonder about the details - does it have to be wet printing or can we scan and print digitally?

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Old 04-29-2010   #14
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OK, glad there's some enthusiasm.

Last time some people didn't receive their prints and I don't want the same to happen this time. However, I cannot do anything about people's failure to play their part if we do a standard swap. So here are the rules and two options:

1. Printing can be either wet or dry, colour or monochrome, but please try to make a nice print. Source can be digital or film - something that you are proud of/pleased with.

2. Prints to be made and posted ideally within 2 weeks of me publishing 'THE LIST' on this thread and via PM, but certainly by the end of May - Palec your in!

3. Any subject, but please state if you do not wish to receive any particular type of image, e.g. nudes, and I will try to match you appropriately.

4. Similarly, if you know what you'll print let me know, but if not that's fine.

5. You can tell me what you'd like to recevie, but I may take no notice

6. We will exchange one print each way - sometimes people send more, but you don't need to.

7. I like prints around 10 by 7 or 12 by 8. They're fairly easy to post without buying a tube. KZphoto - this is not a rule, you can print bg if you want to but you may recevie a smaller print back. Think of it as a 'jewel'.

8. I will match everyone with someone else and tell you where to send your prints.

Options:

A - We send prints directly to our partner. This is quick and the easiest approach, but you run the risk if the other party lets you down. I will be sympathetic, but cannot enforce or take legal (or other) action to fix these occasional problems. In this case I will try to match people to others in their own country to save on postage unless you specify otherwise and you accept that there is a chance that you are the odd person (at random) who gets to post overseas.

B - I will collate the prints and forward to the recipients. This will only work if the number of participants is such that I can afford it without breaking the bank. I will confirm this once everyone has opted in by PM and if there are too many then we revert to option 1! I don't want money for this as that would just add complexity and potential for other issues! You would need to pack the prints so that I can check and resend in the original packing.

If you wish to take part please can you let me know by PM your:

Screen Name

Real name

Email address (optional, but it helps me keep track)

Postal Address

Subject you don't want to receive (optional and for reasons of outlook, not just because you're bored of sunsets)

Subject you would like to receive (optional, if you're really bothered)

What you might print (optional, if you've even decided yet. You'll mostky change this anyway)

Option 1 or 2

Whether you'd like me to try to work out how to put up a gallery of the images on here so people can see them all.


Sorry that's all so long, but hopefully it covers everything. At least we can guage the number of participants.

I'll leave this up for a few days before finalising.

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Old 04-29-2010   #15
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I will send someone a print. If I get one in return, that will be great. If I like it, even better. If not, the sun will still rise the next day.

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I'd be interested. This will give a me deadline in which to complete my darkroom as well.
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THanks for the "rules"
This sounds like fun

Looking forward to it !

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Old 04-29-2010   #21
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it's been a while since an RFF print swap.... looking forward to it!
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I'm in - it will force me to set up the old darkroom
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Made my first 6x6 enlargement tonight, in preparation for this; it's been too long since I've made a wet print, I forgot how much fun it is!
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I'm interested if it's option 1 only. I don't see the reason for a middleman to get involved with censoring and manhandling the art.

Just pair people up, if someone is late or screws up, that's life. I just did a pnet trade with 3 people each. Sent 3 photos, got 3 photos.

This should not be complicated.
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I'm interested if it's option 1 only. I don't see the reason for a middleman to get involved with censoring and manhandling the art.

Just pair people up, if someone is late or screws up, that's life. I just did a pnet trade with 3 people each. Sent 3 photos, got 3 photos.

This should not be complicated.
yep, I don’t see the need for lots of rules, just draw lots to pair folk up then we each PM our address to the other
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Update

The consensus is for Option A - a straight swap.

Ampguy - no intent to censor, but people get upset when they are let down.

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Hi Mike

OK, but it seems a difficult task to accurately try to give folks what they are looking for image wise, right?

In the pnet swap, there were some who did not get theirs, and several late senders. The idea was to send 3 8x10s out (and a 5x7 optional), and get 3 of same.

I got 1 on time, 2 late, 1 rain drenched, but probably not the sender's fault. 2 were mailed in the USPS photo mailers, one in an 8x12 padded manilla envelope with cardboard re-inforcements on both sides (that worked). The latter is what I sent all 3 of mine in.

What I received was OK stuff, nothing to frame or hang on the walls for my tastes, but I wasn't disappointed, nor would I if I only got say 2. If I only got 1 or 0, I would have been disappointed, but wouldn't have blamed the organizer.

My suggestion is to not participate if you're not 100% sure you can print and mail by the deadline, and on the recipient side, to be prepared to not get something either at all, or on time, but still be thankful to the organizer.


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OK, but it seems a difficult task to accurately try to give folks what they are looking for image wise, right?....

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My suggestion is to not participate if you're not 100% sure you can print and mail by the deadline, and on the recipient side, to be prepared to not get something either at all, or on time, but still be thankful to the organizer.

Yes, giving everyone what they want would be impossible - hence the disclaimer.

Your suggested approach is perfect imho

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i know for mine, I SENT them on time, but they got turned around in italian customs, and I had to send them again. Unfortunately I was visiting my in-laws in Europe in between...

I added an extra print to the package to make up for the delay though.

I figure we all do the best we can- I'm with ampguy: "My suggestion is to not participate if you're not 100% sure you can print and mail by the deadline, and on the recipient side, to be prepared to not get something either at all, or on time, but still be thankful to the organizer."

and we definitely should be thankful to Mike for putting this together again.
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Looking good - we've got a good turnout. if you haven't PM'd me your details please can you do that. I'll keep the list open until Monday evening (UK) and then sort out the pairs.

Straight swap and most within own country to save postage costs.

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I would like to join this print swap: Mike, thanks a lot for your efforts!
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Sorry for the delay - been working too hard. I'll pull the list together in the next couple of days and PM/post on here. If you haven't PM'd me your details yet please can you do so as soon as possible

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I'm definitely in, I'll PM you in a minute.

Edit: I'll PM you tomorrow or friday so I can give you the address of my P.O. box in U.S.A.
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