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Ansel Adams 55 20.22%
Henri Cartier-Bresson 144 52.94%
Garry Winogrand 48 17.65%
William Eggleston 25 9.19%
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Old 10-09-2007   #1
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Who Do YOU Like Better

Just curious and for fun, who of the four do you like better (vote one only)?

Ansel Adams
Henri Cartier-Bresson
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While I like 3 of the 4, Bresson's images are more memorable to me, so I'll have to vote for him. HCB +1
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Why do we have to like one better?
You don't. Just pick one, or don't. I like three of four, but picked Winogrand.


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Ray, I'm familiar with these famous names but not their work... I should go to the library!
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Ray, I'm familiar with these famous names but not their work... I should go to the library!
Yes you should, Jan! Here are some samples to jumpstart your trip to the library:

AA
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I voted for HCB over Adams just because his work is on more of a human scale, but it was close.

The other two are mostly unknown to me and while I've seen some of their stuff before, I don't feel that they're in the same class as HCB or AA.

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I voted for HCB over Adams just because his work is on more of a human scale, but it was close.

The other two are mostly unknown to me and while I've seen some of their stuff before, I don't feel that they're in the same class as HCB or AA.

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works for me! I prefer HCB over AA, too—for the same reason.

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Yes you should, Jan! Here are some samples to jumpstart your trip to the library:

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Ray, thanks for the links. I think I relate a bit more to Eggleston, but I like what Cartier-Bresson does to put motion into a frame. Very interesting guys! Adam's only image that really interested me was Central Park Skyscrapers.
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When I first saw HCB's work, I was blown away. It was almost like discovering photography for the first time all over again. Of course, I've heard about the man and I was familiar with three or four of his photographs but after reading so much about him on RFF I took some time do some research on his photographs and it was an absolutely wonderful and educational experience. I think we'd all be surprised as to how much HCB is mentioned here on RFF. When I was a newbie here, it really seemed to me that HCB was THE photographer, especially when it came to 35mm rangefinder photography.

I can say that HCB is without question my favourite photographer. I really wonder if this guy ever took a bad photograph. I find many things about the man very inspiring.

I can't say the same thing about the other photographers listed. I appreciate their work and I like many of their photographs but they didn't affect me to same extent.

I also very much like Koudelka, Rodchenko, Erwitt, Alverez Bravo, and Salgado.
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I like them all, for different reasons.

Adams pushed the craft of fine image making to a new level. Plus, he was a Bay Area man. HCB is an icon for 35mm and (what is now called) street photography. His best images, imho, are masterpieces. Winogrand was incredibly prolific and imaginative with both subject matter and composition. Eggleston made the ordinary bizarre and the mundane complex. I also lived in Memphis in the late 60's, early 70's, so his images from that time have a particular resonance with me.

In the end, though, everything is just "light on surface". I voted for Winogrand. One of my favorite photos of his is this one, where's honus?, particularly since I am in it.
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I like them all, for different reasons.

Adams pushed the craft of fine image making to a new level. Plus, he was a Bay Area man. HCB is an icon for 35mm and (what is now called) street photography. His best images, imho, are masterpieces. Winogrand was incredibly prolific and imaginative with both subject matter and composition. Eggleston made the ordinary bizarre and the mundane complex. I also lived in Memphis in the late 60's, early 70's, so his images from that time have a particular resonance with me.

In the end, though, everything is just "light on surface". I voted for Winogrand. One of my favorite photos of his is this one, where's honus?, particularly since I am in it.
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Oh this is hard. How could 35 mm RF users NOT vote for HCB or Winogrand? Well, I voted for Adams. I'm reading his Autobiography and studying his work. Adams was not only a great photographer, he was also articulate about his art. His discussion of visualization, and of the way he integrated craft, technique, and composition with the goal of establishing photography as an art form in its own right and not as derivative of other art forms (e.g., painting), puts him ahead of the others, IMO. Even if one is pursuing different aesthetic objectives than those of Group f/64, there's a lot to learn from his work and his writings. He admired HCB, BTW, and used a Contax from time to time.
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It was a relatively easy choice for me - I've loved the work of both HCB and GW for ages, but HCB still edges it. AA's work is also superb, but for me a great landscape will never have the same impact as a great shot of life and humanity. And finally, I have to put WE in a very distant last place - I just don't get his stuff at all.
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I was looking for R. Capa on the list...
Could not find it so i went for the "mainstream HCB"
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My preferences change over time ... and are not always the same.
At this moment i voted Eggleston .... because his work is highly original and impossible to copy or mimic ........
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Have to admit that I still don't understand the aesthetics of Eggleston, despite all my honest attempts. Probably that part of my brain is underdeveloped.
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In my opinion HCB is difficult to beat, he has been an innovator in technique and style, he was a painter, and therefore a master of form and composition, he was sensitive to social side of things, so he kept the human condition at the mainstream, and he had an incredible talent and persistence. His best shots are simply miracles of all these elements coming together.
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Adams, for all the reason noted above.
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Being the consummate New Yorker, I had to choose Winogrand. HCB and Eggleston are not far behind. Not to offend anyone, but as I became more and more involved with photography, while I do respect his achievements, the less I like Adams. I liked him even less after I read his autobiography and began to know his friendship with a certain historian who wanted to write the history of photography in a very biased way.
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Hi folks,

A few people have been praising WE here, but I honestly just don't get his stuff at all. I wonder if anyone who likes him would be kind enough to tell us what they think is so good about the photo in the link above? (I'm asking out of genuine interest - I'm really fascinated by other people's views on art).
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I appreciate Adams for his craft in B&W and colour respectively but ultimately his photography is not for me. Eggleston and colour is growing on me. I love Winogrand's work but my vote went to Bresson for the thrill and education his work gave to me when a photographic novice. In a certain way I feel that my enjoyment and understanding for Winogrand's work is amplified by the fact that I 'arrived' at it after looking at Bresson's photography. That's not to say that Winogrand's photos cannot be appreciated in the absence of what Bresson did before but I think they take an additional layer of interest if they are seen in a[n imaginary] street photographic dialectic.
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MOMA had a exhibit years ago of Adams' early work - yes, incredible. I can't help not separating the man from his work. When I was a student, I worked in a large camera store and had the pleasure of meeting Gary Winogrand. While everyone is biased in some way, he was a genuinely down to earth nice guy. While I might not care for everything he has produced, I have respect for the guy.

It's funny, as I've known people who have gotten into photography, there are certain photographers who are always mentioned as favorites at the top of everyone's list. As they have matured, and progressed in developing their own style, they have begun to produce a new set of more "sophisticated" (?) favorites.

As far as shooting lots of film, it could be said for HCB as well. I have seen some of his contact sheets reproduced of some his well known imagery. He didn't always get what he wanted on the first try as sometimes we are lead to believe.

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I voted AA, but missed Capa in the poll.

One has to split AA from his marketing stereotype, see for
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Rather a limited list. There are many photographers I like better than all of those on that list.
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A few people have been praising WE here, but I honestly just don't get his stuff at all. I wonder if anyone who likes him would be kind enough to tell us what they think is so good about the photo in the link above? (I'm asking out of genuine interest - I'm really fascinated by other people's views on art).
I would have taken that shot too... so I don't know how to tell you what it is about that photograph except I like it. For this one it may be how he has made a cohesive image from what at first seems an asymmetrical one. In looking at his photos in the link Ray provided, his work seems more about the concept first and then the image.
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I like eisenstadt, cappa, the dustbowl photographers, eggelston (he grows on you after meeting and somewhat understanding the man), I also liked bob carlos clarke, there are many others I've liked -- usually, it's the image rather than the photographer --- Stanley Kubrick was an exceptional photographer, jack robinson, there's countless timeless images that really hit home with me
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My vote goes to HCB.

Maybe I´m too much part of the so-called "Old-Europe", but I never was that much impressed by Winogrand or Eggelston. Cartier-Bresson was - in my eyes - one of the luckiest men of the last century. He was always at the right place at the right time - remember for example his pictures of Ghandyand his burial.

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A few people have been praising WE here, but I honestly just don't get his stuff at all. I wonder if anyone who likes him would be kind enough to tell us what they think is so good about the photo in the link above?
For me, Eggleston's images that work are those, like the one I posted, that seem ordinary but aren't - his photography looks casual, mere snapshots, but are very deliberate.

The linked photo, Black Bayou Plantation, asks questions, and draws you in: Why are those bottles there? What happened? What does it mean? This image is hyper-real, almost surreal; Eggleston has deliberately imbued the scattered bottles with significance.

Another favourite photographer of mine is Harry Callahan, who also creates images full of exaggerated meaning. Here's a short essay I wrote on one his photos, which, coincidentally, is also about something dropped: http://www.richcutler.co.uk/photo/essay_01.htm. Unlike Eggleston, Callahan is more traditional in his compositions.
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I always think it's interesting to see who those guys hung out with.

For example, this is Steinbeck with Capa in the background:

http://www.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc...F/PAR45598.jpg

Or the portrait of Georgia O’Keefe by Ansel Adams (another AA RF photo, BTW). Or Ghandi and HCB. Etc.

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Have to say that I've been a Winnogrand fan since highschool...though it's hard to pick from such a list.

Off the list, I'd say Arbus is my fav of the moment, or maybe Natcheway (sp?)
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Have to say that I've been a Winnogrand fan since highschool...though it's hard to pick from such a list.

Off the list, I'd say Arbus is my fav of the moment, or maybe Natcheway (sp?)
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Thanks RayPA. If I didn't look at this post, I wouldn't have investigated Eggleston's work. Pretty great stuff. Makes me want to carry color film in my M6 at all times.

I picked Winogrand (even though I love AA and appreciate HCB) because of his attitude. He seems like the kind of guy I'd hang out with. His photos are good too.
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totally OT... where have you been? I thought you dissappeared! Good to see you again.
In all honesty, I needed a break. Too much gear lust and there was a bit too much drama for me for a while. I've continued to lurk though.

It's good to be back, there are some great new members here!

And now back to the topic...
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I think this poll elicit multiple interpretation.

Do you like your favorite's photograph? or his personality? or both combined?

These can yield different choices. Personality-wise, I think my favorite would be Gary Winograd with HCB as a close second. But photograph-wise, Ansel Adams pulled off some of the best imageries I have ever seen.
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This is a question that I certainly cannot answer.

I adore HCB for the importance he gave time; I adore AA for the feeling of timelessness expressed in his compositions. Two totally different approaches... but the output from both was equally seminal.
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