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Old 02-28-2016   #1201
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Any reason to choose a Fed vs. Zorki other then preferred appearance? I liked the looks of the FEDs better, but I am feeling the urge to buy the Zorki models as well.

Meet my FED 1, 2, early 3 & later 3 (not sure if that's how you refer to the 2 different model 3 cameras)
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The 3's, like all the others, were given letters as well to distinguish them, like FED 3d and so on (usually on the passport). Normally I'd say where to look to find all the varieties but I don't want to be the first to push you down that slippery slope...

BTW, I've no problems with the mixing of former USSR lenses and bodies, just beware of 39mm mounts from the Zenits when looking for lenses.

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Old 03-18-2016   #1202
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Hi,

Another ex USSR camera and lens:-



and another view, over-exposed to show a little more detail:-



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Old 03-29-2016   #1203
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Thanks, I'd wondered about it and am wondering if they'll ever do a "black" version of (say) the FED 1 etc. OTOH, I can't justify buying one just for its looks...

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David, all these black versions are aftermarket mods. But damn, thay are nice! There's one black Zorki-4 currently for sale in Moscow for approx. $43.


https://www.avito.ru/moskva/fototehn...rnyy_627961319


Having said that, I'd like to show the Zorki-4 I've bought recently (in attachment). I want to take some care of it. Sadly, Aki-asahi told me they do not cut leatherettes for this model with strap lugs, but I'm trying with cameraleather. Also, I'd like to replace the top plate with the one with engraved logo and shutter settings. But mechanically it's great!
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Old 04-20-2016   #1204
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Just arrived.
Zorki 4K with matching Industar 50 both from very early 1975 (I'm from February '75 too)


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Zorki-1 + Industar-50 50mm f/3.5.

The combo I carried everyday last autumn-winter.

The KOMZ I-50 has a thicker lens barrel and notably heavier than the KMZ I-22 I have.
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Now I only have to find a way to make the self release and the long exposures work. A CLA should do the trick, but at the moment Oleg from Russia can't do it (because of fire damage to his home ) and since the fast shutter times are running, I declare the condition as "Ready to shoot".

The red leather is from Aki-asahi in Japan, I have just added two small holes for the strap lugs. The strap was bought from the UK and the camera is now being used here in Germany. Who would have thought about that being possible 50 years ago when it was built
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Old 05-19-2016   #1207
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Hi!
I was searching for a sale thread on this forum, but since I didn't manage to find it, I uploaded here some photos of one of my FSU rangefinders, a functional Zorki 4k camera with Industar 61, 52mm, f/2.8.
The cover is from genuine leather and is printed with European folk motifs.
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Old 07-11-2016   #1208
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That's a good looking rig Hannes. I guess with a Contax mount there aren't adjustment issues like with Fed/Zorki?
I had no problem with focus not beeing accurate, even on short distance with lens wide open the focusing was accurate. Th eonly drawback is some light leaks in this body, next time I'll take a younger one.

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Old 07-11-2016   #1209
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My Zorki-3 with a low 1955 serial number, matching Jupiter 8 lens, leather case and original film casette for spooling your own film.
According to sovietcams.com it is type PM1290, fotoua.com lists it as type 5d (CT1208).

I love the look of this camera, espicially because its seperated low speed dial.

The camera is very clean, works like a charm, even the low speeds. Does anybody know the purpose of the white card in the back of the camera case?

I never have seen this type of film casettes before.









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My Zorki-3 with a low 1955 serial number, matching Jupiter 8 lens, leather case and original film casette for spooling your own film.
According to sovietcams.com it is type PM1290, fotoua.com lists it as type 5d (CT1208).

I love the look of this camera, espicially because its seperated low speed dial.

The camera is very clean, works like a charm, even the low speeds. Does anybody know the purpose of the white card in the back of the camera case?

I never have seen this type of film casettes before.









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Beautiful camera. Z-3 looks best to me among the Z-3/4/mir range. I'd pick one up if I didn't wear eye-glass.

I think the card is for the photog to write down exposure information (speed, f/* ).

Today digital cameras use EXIF.
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Old 07-12-2016   #1211
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Hi,

The little pocket in the back was the same in the pre-war Leicas and could hold several things.



There was also a UK version of the import duty card.

The plastic card for pencil notes had square cut corners for the Leica and the USSR version was slightly bigger with rounded corners.

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Old 07-19-2016   #1212
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Several months ago I purchased this Kiev 4AM (SN8450540) on eBay as a body only in 'perfect' working condition. I was curious as to how terrible the really terrible quality I've read regarding the late Kiev, really was. 84 isn't the last year of production, I think that was 85. Well, I matched it up to an 82' serial number Helios 103 that I've had lying around for nearly 8 years or so. Both work great and the build quality of the Kiev 4 greatly exceeded my expectations. Certainly the camera's more cheaply made than earlier examples. But it's decades younger as well.

The revised rewind knob (slightly askew in my copy), bottom plate with an integrated rewind release built into one of the bottom plate release catches, the 1/1000th speed setting, all make for, in my opinion, a more 'modern' rendering of the 1930's Contax design. Overall, a pleasant shooter. As a bonus the standard VC meter (the one where the base tab locates the meter body towards the left) will fit on this model because the revised rewind knob (just) allows the room.

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Hi from Spain, I show you my Fed 3. I also have a Jupiter 12.
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Old 08-15-2016   #1214
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Just a "new" J-12 and J-9 directly from Ukraine for my Kiev-4AM. I have paid US$ 35 for both.

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My newly acquired Zorki 4 (from Fedka), along with its stablemate Canon. Still working on a first trial roll of prints before I take some serious shots with it. Its a good looking camera! The Zorki, I mean... OK, the Canon too.

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Some FSU from my collection
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Custom Fed-1G with Industar 61
Old 11-10-2016   #1218
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Custom Fed-1G with Industar 61

I've just bought my first FSU rangefinder a few weeks ago as I'm generally a 120 landscape shooter so never really got on with rangefinders before. I really like the styling of the Fed-1 with it's completely manual approach and split rangefinder/viewfinder windows. It's a totally different feeling to my other cameras and I'm really enjoying shooting with it.

After doing a CLA on both the body and lens (Industar 61 with solid grease!) I've just replaced the original vulcanite with a dark grey alcatara trim and printed a grip which is covered to match. I found the body a little too slim to hold comfortably along with the vulcanite so the new setup feels much more solid in my hand.

I got a bit bored of black vulcanite :0) by Steve Lloyd, on Flickr

Printed grip covered in alcantara to match the body by Steve Lloyd, on Flickr
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Old 11-23-2016   #1219
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A couple of quick snaps.
1955 Kiev II with '55 Jupiter 8 followed by '78 Kiev 4A with '81 Jupiter 8M.

I'm new here and this is my first post with pics. How do I attach images so that it is not neccessary to "Click to enlarge"?.....and bigger???

Anyhow...

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The 4A and its lens are each quite interesting in their own fashion.
The controls and baseplate latches of the body are in black lacquer. Most of the black paint 4A's I've seen have chrome controls etc.
According to the SovietCams site this version of Jupiter 8M was produced specifically for the Bulgarian market(!?) and only in 1981. It is very similar in appearance and construction to the Helios 103 but whereas the Helios has a maximum aperture of f1.8 this (being a Jupiter 8) is still an f2.

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Old 11-25-2016   #1220
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I usually prefer the Zorki 4, as I think the 4 is more reliable but this Zorki 4K is holding out pretty good, and it deserves to wear my favourite FSU lens, the fast Jupiter 3.
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Old 11-25-2016   #1221
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Old 11-26-2016   #1222
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My Start, it is in quite good condition. The shutter is working on all speeds, lens, mirror and prism are clean.



I do not have a Start film casette, but a Kiev casette fits also.



Viewed side by side you see some similarities to the Nikon F.



More pictures in my flickr stream.

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I've just bought my first FSU rangefinder a few weeks ago as I'm generally a 120 landscape shooter so never really got on with rangefinders before. I really like the styling of the Fed-1 with it's completely manual approach and split rangefinder/viewfinder windows. It's a totally different feeling to my other cameras and I'm really enjoying shooting with it.

After doing a CLA on both the body and lens (Industar 61 with solid grease!) I've just replaced the original vulcanite with a dark grey alcatara trim and printed a grip which is covered to match. I found the body a little too slim to hold comfortably along with the vulcanite so the new setup feels much more solid in my hand.

I got a bit bored of black vulcanite :0) by Steve Lloyd, on Flickr

Printed grip covered in alcantara to match the body by Steve Lloyd, on Flickr
Very nice work you did on the Fed. Welcome to the forum. Hope to see some photos taken with that kit.
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A couple of quick snaps.
1955 Kiev II with '55 Jupiter 8 followed by '78 Kiev 4A with '81 Jupiter 8M.

I'm new here and this is my first post with pics. How do I attach images so that it is not neccessary to "Click to enlarge"?.....and bigger??? ...
Hi,

To get a picture shown as the others are you need a website and then put in a link here to the photo.

For example, this is on my smugmug website and I can get a link to it which will open automatically here.



Hope this explains it.

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To get a picture shown as the others are you need a website and then put in a link here to the photo...Hope this explains it.
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Let's see...





Ahhh.............That's better!

Thank you very much, David!

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Very nice work you did on the Fed. Welcome to the forum. Hope to see some photos taken with that kit.
Thanks, I ran a test roll through it to make sure it was light tight and have just finished another roll that's waiting to be developed.

I've also just CLA'd a Yashica 14 so have got a roll in that at the moment which I'm looking forward to seeing the results from.

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Old 12-03-2016   #1228
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I've a few, but these are my two favorites, despite their mechanical flaws.


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My New Gorki 4K

Just for your personal enjoyment... my new old Zorki 4K from 77. Nearly in brand new condition with an extra 50mm Jupiter 8 lens. The Zorki came from a local dealer here in Munich. The Lens from eBay. The focus from the lens was complete dry and stuck. I cleaned everything and lubricated with original Russian optics grease. Now ist runs very smooth! I cleaned the rangefinder optics the mirror, and o wonder.. no adjustments to the Rangefinder mech...

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Old 12-13-2016   #1231
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My M39 Zenits with lenses as "barnfind".

The Zenit 3 from 1962 with Mir-1 lens is my favorite, it is working fine, also the 3M from 1963 is in good condition.
The S needs CLA, The Revueflex = 3M from 1970 has a light leak and sticky shutter at 1/30s.




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I've got a dirt-cheap early FED-2 with partially destroyed vulcanite that I've cleaned and adjusted. I had some uncut Aki-Asahi leather as well, so I did cut it by myself. I've left a small part of camera near the lens mount uncovered, so now I can use the collapsible Industar-50 and 22 with the infinity lock. And also I've got a Samsung point-and-shoot for $2, got a finder from there. The frame inside the finder matches 35mm focal length exacly! Tested with Canon-7 and the soviet turret finder.







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Very good, kotokot 21 !
I've been trying to use the finders of disposable film cameras (they are quite bright) and my main problem is the connection between the finder itself and the cold shoe of he camera - very difficult to adjust with precision...
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Thanks! The cold shoe I've got from an old cheap soviet flash (the one that can be used only from the 220V wall plug). Simply cut the shoe away with knife, slightly helping with a hammer, then sand the surface and used a strong glue to connect the shoe with the finder. The top part of the finder was loose and removable, now it's hold in place by the leather covering.
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My 1969 KIEV-4A

The Jupiter-12 is the uncommon Arsenal version - there is a metal guard around the rear lens elements.

The front face of KIEV/Contax II always reminds me German Tiger I tank of WW2.
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Congrats, that's an impressive combo!
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Hello

I allready showed my Zenit M39 SLRs here and also my Start. Now I could get the "missing link" to use my Jupiter-11 and Mir-1 on the Start. First time I bought from a seller in UA. 2 Days ago this little treasure arrived.



It is not only the adapter for M39 to Start bajonet. It is the complete set with of closeup rings and both adapters. Now I can mount Zenit M39 lenses on my Start and also use the original Start Helios 44 for closeup.



Jupiter 11 on Start looks like this. The image in the view finder is much brigther than in the Zenit 3.



What a pitty that I do not have a Jupiter 9 for ZM39.

And finally Start and Zenit 3 side by side with all matching lenses I have.



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