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How do you get the shot in 4 frames or less?
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How do you get the shot in 4 frames or less?

How do you get “The Shot” in 4 frames or less?

Bracket?

Meter your batteries dead?

Trust your gut?

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First is the film. I just exposed most of a roll of Tri-X at 100 ISO, in error. It gave me some lovely very useable dense negatives, and some shadow detail I would otherwise not have had. With colour negative it’s even better for overexposure. We’re warned how bad underexposure is, but I like Fuji Superia under-exposed by one stop for dense blue skies and strong colours. I don’t risk that with Ektar. Slides, like digital, I don’t risk over exposure. I meter in changing light and indoors but often I trust my experience with each film. I was a great fan of the Kodak box-end exposure guide. I shot slide film for a month with only that. Hardly one was bad.
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Thanks Richard! Solid Insight.
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Practice. If I take two photos of the same scene, it's because I'll do one in portrait, and the other in landscape. Most b&w films have plenty of latitude, so that always helps. Got to be spot on with Ektar though.


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When you start using the Mamiya and have ten exposures from a 6x7 back, you’ll figure it out.
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I've been making photos for 56 years - most of it all manual, no meter.

With the films I use (no transparencies), I already know what my shutter speed and aperture is going to be for the situation. I can either pre-focus or focus quickly with a rangefinder or SLR microprism. All I really need to think about is composition. That's all you need to deal with: shutter speed, aperture, focus, composition. That's all of it.

I'm also cheap - I shoot one frame and don't waste film. Usually I get what I intended.
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Feel an emotion , look around, think a little bit but not too much, than shoot: done!
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Kodachrome 25 was expensive. I always only took one frame.

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I love digital for taking many many more than 4 when exploring something interesting and new. Conversely, when out with my wife any delay is very very unpopular so I have to get one shot, in a hurry. Interesting how often that works well for me, the pressure to do it quickly without too much unhelpful thinking.
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Oh i always get my exposures right.
And then i screw up at development )
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When you start using the Mamiya and have ten exposures from a 6x7 back, you’ll figure it out.
You caught me!

To play into my own pandering,

I’ve always used a combination of meter your batteries dead and trust your gut.

Killer shot Lynnb!
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This reminds me I have a four shot panoramic of the mountains near Girona, and I have yet to learn to stitch them together in Lightroom...
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Kodachrome 25 was expensive. I always only took one frame.
^^^^^^Nice shot, Lynn.
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Devin and Larry, thanks. OM1 with OM Zuiko 200mm f/4 wide open, so it must've been about 1/125 metering for Cheryl, who'd fallen asleep (not while waiting for me to take the shot lol).
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Why 4 shots? What am I missing? The Magnum Contact sheets book shows some people used a whole roll to get a shot and some one frame. Neither is the wrong way to do it.
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Only a pro must get the shot.
Us amateurs need only try our best.

FWIW I usually lose interest after a couple frames.
If on reflection I feel I missed something important
I can go back another day.

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Nothing really significant about 4 frames. So nothing missed JSRockit!

I use all three of the methods in my OP as I am sure most of us do.

Chris... but I soo badly want to get the shot lol
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Only a pro must get the shot.
Us amateurs need only try our best.

FWIW I usually lose interest after a couple frames.
If on reflection I feel I missed something important
I can go back another day.

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I often find that if I haven’t tried hard enough with the framing or point of view, when I go back it’s not the same time of day and the shadows are different or it’s a month later and the light no longer hits that face of the building or there’s scaffolding or they’ve repainted or a tree has more foliage. Or it seems in every way the same, but now totally uninspiring and I go through the motions and try a few more shots but I know the magic is gone.
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When you start using the Mamiya and have ten exposures from a 6x7 back, you’ll figure it out.
Or go 6x9 with a Texas Leica and bring that number to 8 frames/roll!


I am very mindful when using medium format and try to make each frame shot count as good. Not always happens. I find myself rarely taking portraits and what I think is the best I took of the year was a quick last frame.
My friend on the beach against a background of darker forest shortly before we boarded our canoe back to town again. HP5 guesstimated worked wonders. Perhaps a slightly thing negative but it has printed great in the many prints with time/contrast variations I've made.



Lynn's Kodachrome shot reminds me of my mini project last decade (so long already?). I had only 4 rolls of Kodachrome, was a teen, so I tried to bring the best out of all those 36 exposure rolls.


I'm much more trigger happy with digital, and 35mm allows room with the length of film. Digital is a blessing for telephoto and fast photography.


But no meter or camera at all if batteries are dead then.
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Beautiful shot. Love the highlights. Been a long time since I shot Kodachrome, would have thought this was Portra 400
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Nothing really significant about 4 frames. So nothing missed JSRockit!
Ah ok... I take as many as I need. Of course if it's a still life, maybe it is better to prepare than to just keep firing away. However, if it is something that moves and the scene constantly is changing...I will photograph until I think I get what I want or I think it isn't going to happen. Sometimes it only takes one try. Sometimes it takes me a few trips (and many photos) to really realize the potential of a place.
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No more than two of the exact same composition, with a different shutter speed or f/stop. Once I start looking at a wall of identical images, my brain goes foggy and I lose interest, instantly. I hate editing. I prefer taking just one good shot and leaving it be. This is how I always scouped my competition when I was in the Navy and got stuff out before others. It worked for me then and now that I'm no longer a pro, it works better now.
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Even in digital, (except for sports) I never took more than 2 or 3.

But to further reduce that, shoot film. You will quickly learn to do your thinking and composing first, instead of in post-processing.

Now, I either get the shot in one try (80%) or blow it in one try. In the cases where I blew it, another 3 attempts would usually not get it for me, so no regrets.

I like candid street and family photos, so it is more a matter of having the camera set and having the reflex to shoot at the right moment.
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Scenario 1. Gear for sale. I do not use bracketing. I take and review, re-take.
Scenario 2. Street. I have no plans to publish Magnum contact sheets of my own.
Scenario 3, 4. Portraits, landscapes. Same as Scenario 1.
Scenario 5. BIF. AF in Servo, dedicated AF button and continuous shooting on shutter button press.
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I'm very tolerant of mediocrity. I don't "get the shoot" all the time, but I can easily live with that. I still have a great time. Benefit of being a weekend snapper.

My philosophy towards self-improvement is to try again next time, which, incidentally, is a lot easier to do with film cameras where results are visible only after development.
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