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Old 12-20-2015   #1
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Which app for iphone 6?

How can I control aperture and ISO in the iphone 6 camera? Is there a good app out there?
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All photos taken outdoors use ISO 6400 in my phone. Why?
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Raid,

I believe the ISO range on the iPhone 6 is 32-2500.
What program is giving you the EXIF?
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The outdoors images that I post in the RFF gallery show in the EXIF the ISO=6400. I choose no program. The indoors images show ISO=160. This doesn't make much sense.
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I bet it's ISO 64 and it's reading the EXIF incorrectly.
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i use camera+ and procamera if i want to control shutter speed and ISO.
my plan was to use them for long exposure/low iso performance with the phone for landscape although i havent had the time to use it, i primarily use the camera for snapshots

also take note that lowest shutter possible with the ios is 1/4s
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Raid,

I've been on and off developing various iOS camera apps to test what the capabilities are for output like RAW and stacked images.

For starters, the iPhone6/6+ has a fixed aperture of ƒ/2.2 and cannot be changed. There is a free app called ExifWizard that has all kind of useful information for looking into the photo exif data after the fact.

Truthfully, most of the time I use the stock camera app. The 10FPS burst rate is great, especially if you lock down exposure and autofocus. If you are looking for a dramatically longer shutter speed, then look to an app called "SlowShutter". Technically it is actually converting a movie to a flattened image stack, but the results are pretty good if you are looking for light trails.
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I recommend NightCap pro
I've been involved in the beta testing of the last few versions, it's very good indeed! Complete control over shutter and ISO (aperture is fixed) it also has long shutter modes, one of which effectively kills noise. It's very clever. Simple to use too. It also does tiff output which comes up as "raw" in the mobile version Lightroom
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Raid, I only use my 4s, but I've been fairly pleased with Camera+. Manual control of focus, ISO, white balance and shutter speed. Maximum exposure time for me is one second at whatever ISO I prefer. Also permits files to be written as tiff which is useful if you think you'll want to edit them later. I'm honestly much happier with a manual film camera myself but occasionally, for the sake of immediacy I've taken tiff files from the phone and edited them in camera raw and PS and they've come up OK.
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Thanks a lot for all the tips given here. I now understand why it always shows aperture 2.2. Is this an issue that is only in iphones ? I like using f 11 at the beach, say.
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Given the sensor size, does anyone know what the f/2.2 aperture equates to in 35mm terms (in regards to depth of field)?
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I use the stock app, and often edit within Photos with the Camera+ extension. I think the extensions are an often-overlooked part of iOS...for the camera especially, they're really useful.
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Given the sensor size, does anyone know what the f/2.2 aperture equates to in 35mm terms (in regards to depth of field)?
It may be "a quite large number" here.
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I use the stock app, and often edit within Photos with the Camera+ extension. I think the extensions are an often-overlooked part of iOS...for the camera especially, they're really useful.
What exactly is a camera extension and how do I access it?
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Internet is saying equivalent aperture is f/15.4.

Raid, if you install the Camera+ app, you can access the extension when you edit a photo. It's much more versatile and powerful than the stock editing tools. Here's how:

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The photo-editing extension means you may no longer need to open a separate photography app to use its editing tools. Now, you can add its tools to the Photos app.

To do so, open the Photos app, select a photo, and tap the Edit button in the upper-right corner.

Next, tap the triple-dot button in the upper-left corner and then tap the More button from the pop-up tray.

Here you will see a list of the apps you have installed that support photo-editing extensions. In my case, I saw three: Afterlight, Camera+ and Scanner Pro.

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Select the apps whose edit tools you'd like to use from within the Photos app, and the next time you tap the triple-dot button when in Edit mode, you'll see those apps listed in the pop-up tray.
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Internet is saying equivalent aperture is f/15.4.

Raid, if you install the Camera+ app, you can access the extension when you edit a photo. It's much more versatile and powerful than the stock editing tools. Here's how:
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I recommend NightCap pro
I've been involved in the beta testing of the last few versions, it's very good indeed! Complete control over shutter and ISO (aperture is fixed) it also has long shutter modes, one of which effectively kills noise. It's very clever. Simple to use too. It also does tiff output which comes up as "raw" in the mobile version Lightroom
interesting, what's the longest shutter speed it is capable of and this is not one of those faux-long exposure app that just combines a bunch of images right?
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I would be nice if you could get an actual RAW file off of the phone in the same manner that you can from a proper camera. Programs that give you TIFF raws are really giving you the RGBA (or just RGB if they are smart) pixel-by-pixel bitmap, with lossless TIFF compression. "Real" cameras will give you the actual sensor data, and let Lightroom or Photoshop figure out how to de-bayer the image.
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interesting, what's the longest shutter speed it is capable of and this is not one of those faux-long exposure app that just combines a bunch of images right?


The longest actually shutter speed it does is 1/2sec - I think this is the limit the os allows. So yea, it is technically a faux long shutter, but it's surprisingly effective as I believe it samples pretty much constantly. The repeated sampling means that the sensor noise is got rid of. It's worth playing with.

The app has become very popular with people wishing to do astrophotography and star trails.

It's not an expensive ap either, as it goes ...
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I typically use the stock camera app for shooting but the other three apps that get some use are:
Cortex Cam - Great for low light shots (combines several shots to reduce blur and noise)
AvgCamPro - Combines multiple exposures for long exposure style shots (you set the number of pictures, shooting interval and pre-start delay as well as setting exposure, focus and white balance)
Manual - gives access to the main camera controls in a fairly intuitive interface (gets a bit crowded on a smaller screen like a 5s iPhone)
All three are worth a try but if you only want to try one, I use AvgCamPro the most of the three. I'm a big fan of this app.
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Oh I totally forgot: Obscura! It's a superb, stripped-down app with manual control of everything. Even manual focus is available. And a lovely, spare interface!

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This seems to be a very useful app.
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Raid,

I tend to use PureShot as the taking app - lots of control, including over / under exposure settings. It will save a TIF or two different levels of relatively uncompressed JPGs.

CortexCam is good for low light, as someone has mentioned.

For editing I have Snapseed and a couple of others. But unless I need to edit 'in the field', I just upload to Lightroom and edit from there.

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Thanks for this tip, Kirk. I will do some reading next.
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The outdoors images that I post in the RFF gallery show in the EXIF the ISO=6400. I choose no program. The indoors images show ISO=160. This doesn't make much sense.
How do you send photo's from your iphone to the RFF gallery? RFF isn't smartphone friendly so I rarely ever open RFF on my iphone. Only way I know of is to send the photo to my email then send to documents/photos on my desktop. I'm just wondering if there is an easier way.
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Oh I totally forgot: Obscura! It's a superb, stripped-down app with manual control of everything. Even manual focus is available. And a lovely, spare interface!

Wow that looks interesting.
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How do you send photo's from your iphone to the RFF gallery? RFF isn't smartphone friendly so I rarely ever open RFF on my iphone. Only way I know of is to send the photo to my email then send to documents/photos on my desktop. I'm just wondering if there is an easier way.
I do same as what you have been doing, GB.
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I do same as what you have been doing, GB.
Ok. I just saw your photos in the gallery. Very stunning. Picked one for Photo of the Week.
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How do you send photo's from your iphone to the RFF gallery? RFF isn't smartphone friendly so I rarely ever open RFF on my iphone. Only way I know of is to send the photo to my email then send to documents/photos on my desktop. I'm just wondering if there is an easier way.
If you use Flickr, the desktop browser version has a link that provides you with a private email address for your Flickr photo stream. Then add that address to your iPhone's contacts list. When you're ready to send a photo, just email it from your camera roll to the Flickr address; the photo shows up in your Flickr soon thereafter.

Once it's in flickr you can grab the BB code link and paste it into an RFF thread.

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Ok. I just saw your photos in the gallery. Very stunning. Picked one for Photo of the Week.
Thanks.

Can the ISO setting be changed when you don't use an external software for the iphone? I see ISO=125 only in some of my panorama images. Else it is 6400/
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If you use Flickr, the desktop browser version has a link that provides you with a private email address for your Flickr photo stream. Then add that address to your iPhone's contacts list. When you're ready to send a photo, just email it from your camera roll to the Flickr address; the photo shows up in your Flickr soon thereafter.

Once it's in flickr you can grab the BB code link and paste it into an RFF thread.

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645 Pro gives you a lot of control.

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Yes, it's a great App. 645Pro also supports saving files in a dRAW TIFF format which are uncompressed. I think dRAW is just a 645Pro's marketing name for uncompressed TIFF files. I do not know if these are linear files. But, compared to JPEGS, they are superior for post-production rendering.
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I've been using Obscura, the app I mentioned earlier, and wanted to share some images. This app seriously gives some of the best black and white photos I've ever seen from a phone. These were taken in the past few weeks with an iPhone 6s+.







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" This app seriously gives some of the best black and white photos I've ever seen from a phone. "

Nice, I will have to try this out. You might want to try 645 Pro if you haven't. It has 6 different B&W film emulation modes as well as the additional ability to add color filters effects (red, green, yellow, blue...etc..etc..) to the B&W conversion. Lots of flexibility.

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Downloaded it now after reading this thread, very useful

interestingly , it seems that this slow speed shot is a composite of 3 sensor reads - if you look at the ends of the train car in the center of the shot.

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Using Lightroom Mobile as a Camera App.

I bought an iPhone 6s this week -- I had Sony Xperia (android) phones before this -- and wanted a good camera application for it. I wanted one that allows me to make adjustments like I can on my Sony RX100 M3 compact camera.

I read this thread and checked some of the recommendations. This led me to buy the Obscura camera application. After using it for a short time, I found it irritating to control. It's too fluid and tries too hard to be simple or intuitive. I looked around some more and stumbled on something I already had, but didn't know it.

What I discovered today is that the mobile version of Lightroom, which I already have on my phone and tablets, provides camera controls. Below is a screenshot from my phone showing a shot of my living room:



This is the layout for Professional choice, as opposed to the Automatic choice. On the right are the various exposure settings: White Balance, ISO, Shutter Speed, and Exposure Compensation. You can lock these settings -- notice the gold colored lock icon. On the left you can set image ratio (i.e., 16:9, 3:2, 4:3, and 1:1), although it actually saves the full size (i.e., 4:3) and then crops it for you. You can reset it to the original format later in Lightroom. You can also set a timer, and turn on or off a few grids. You can also have it display a level -- you can see it at the center of this image. Further left you can set the file format to DNG or JPG, as well as enable the flash. You can tap the screen where you want to focus -- that's the square around the goose decoy head. This image isn't in focus because I fumbled with the phone to make the screenshot and it's not locked -- the [ + ] Auto on the right isn't in gold.

Lightroom Mobile will automatically synchronize photos to the cloud and thereby Lightroom on my desktop computer. Synchronizing, the uploading and downloading can be slow if you're using DNG format -- those files are large. You can instead import photos to the desktop by using a Lightning Fire cable and Import in the desktop version of Lightroom. However, that will only get you JPG photos that have been shared with iPhone's Photos application. Apple seems to trap each application on the iPhone, and Adobe doesn't allow synching through the LAN -- they have to go through the Adobe cloud.

If you want to adjust the image file settings on the phone, though, you can do plenty with the mobile application. Below are two screenshots showing some adjustments that are possible, of which there are many.



Overall, it's the best camera application I've seen. This includes a few days of looking for one for the iPhone and a few years of using Android camera applications.
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