In praise of Lomo 800
Old 06-25-2019   #1
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In praise of Lomo 800

Many peeps are mourning the apparent passing of ISO 800 films from Fuji and I guess Kodak (they still make Portra 800).
But Lomo is still kickin! I think Kodak makes their 800, but what you need to know is that it is very affordable, available and gives sweet results.

Buy Lomo 800! Post your pics here!

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I rated the film at ISO 500, just because. Metered using the kamera's matrix pattern.
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Shot a roll for the first time this weekend. A wonderful film (if a bit fast for bright sunlight!)

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Old 06-25-2019   #3
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All Lomo 35mm color negative film is made by Kodak.
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All Lomo 35mm color negative film is made by Kodak.
It does say made in usa on it but some still claim made in china!
Is the lomo tiger 110 film also made by kodak?
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Old 06-25-2019   #5
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I've written it before, I hope someone makes an 800 black and white film. I want shadow detail as well as healthy contrast and affordable price, so 400 or "3200" iso films are not a good substitute... And with designer grain technology it would certainly possible to have grain as fine as a traditional 400 iso film.
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I've written it before, I hope someone makes an 800 black and white film. I want shadow detail as well as healthy contrast and affordable price, so 400 or "3200" iso films are not a good substitute... And with designer grain technology it would certainly possible to have grain as fine as a traditional 400 iso film.
Both 3200 speed films are near 800 in reality. They are designed to be pushed to 3200. Tmax is IIRC around 800 and Delta is around 1000. Use a fine grain developer and you have what you want. Easy peasy.
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c’mon dont hold back w those lomo 800 images!
Colton, I’m sure u must have some.
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Take with the LCA 120:

[IMG]Spring 2018 by David O, on Flickr[/IMG]
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nice composition David. Is that some art project?
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Thanks. That is at the Smithsonian.
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Both 3200 speed films are near 800 in reality. They are designed to be pushed to 3200. Tmax is IIRC around 800 and Delta is around 1000. Use a fine grain developer and you have what you want. Easy peasy.
I know, that's why I put "3200" in in quotation marks. But price and contrast (as they are designed to be pushed, as you say) are not what I prefer and I doubt sharpness will be all that good in a fine grain developer... But I haven't experimented because of price.
Sorry for hijacking the thread, the Lomo 800 images look great, I'd try it, should I shoot colour neg film.
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Have you tried Kodak Tmax400 shot at 800 and developed normally? My friend Keith Moss, an Ilford Artisan partner and specialist film photographer has recommended I try it as there is very little difference and you develop it, according to Kodak, for the same time.
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Have you tried Kodak Tmax400 shot at 800 and developed normally? My friend Keith Moss, an Ilford Artisan partner and specialist film photographer has recommended I try it as there is very little difference and you develop it, according to Kodak, for the same time.
I haven't yet (although I have accidentally underexposed shots on T-max 400) but that's my plan for something I want to shoot soon. I don't expect great shadow detail though, one stop less exposure is one stop less exposure.
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Old 06-26-2019   #16
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What's the 6 digit number printed on the cassette by the bar code, anyone, please?
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114064 David.
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This one is so much fun!
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114064 David.



Thanks.


There was a website that would tell you the maker and aliases from that number but it seems to have vanished into the usual WWW black hole (sigh).


Perhaps someone else knows what happened to it.


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^^^^

http://industrieplus.net/dxdatabase/

Database doesn't know for Lomo CN800, but says this for CN400. Which seems about right.

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Name: Lomography Color Negative 400 CN400 - (Code DX: 013994)
Information / Suspected emulsion: Ferrania Solaris FG Plus 200 then Kodak (Kodacolor VR series?). 120 version is made in China, probably by Kodak China (Xiamen) - certitude :
Manufacturer: DX number used by a lot of rebranded film canned by Foma
Distributor: Lomography
end date: ~2014 ?
availability : Not sure if discontinued...
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Name: Lomography Color Negative 400 - (Code DX: 015610)
Information / Suspected emulsion: KODAK Color Negative 400 - certitude :
Distributor: Lomography
availability : On the market
Odds on I'd say the CN800 is Kodacolor VR1000 given a more realistic ISO (and makes it less confusing for people new to film who don't have a ISO1000 setting on their camera
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Huss,

Are you doing your own developing?

Whenever I tried to develop on my own I am not satisfied with the color.

However yours looks amazing!
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Lomo LCA 120

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Huss,

Are you doing your own developing?

Whenever I tried to develop on my own I am not satisfied with the color.

However yours looks amazing!
I get the film developed locally, then scan it w my digicam and convert it with negativelabpro.com. That conversion software is key.
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I get mine scanned by my local lab. Results are pretty good. I just don't have the patience to fiddle with scanning anymore.
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I get mine scanned by my local lab. Results are pretty good. I just don't have the patience to fiddle with scanning anymore.
negativelabpro has solved that. 3 clicks and you’re done. Much better colour than the commercial scanning I used before.
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My absolute favourite color film !
its exposure latitude is good enough for use in all conditions and it is very faily priced!





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Shot my second roll the other day with a couple of Portra 800s developed a few days earlier. Lomo 800 is just so much more exciting and vivid. I gave it an extra stop as it tolerates over-exposure well, and saved me from two different film speeds.

It was one of those days with bright blue skies, cotton wool clouds blown on brisk breezes such that I feasted on colour, a rare thing for me. HMS Victory at Portsmouth Historic Dockyard, Leica M3 with Voigtlander 15mm Super Wide Heliar F4.5 (a gem of a lens for peanuts) developed at home.


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Shot my second roll the other day with a couple of Portra 800s developed a few days earlier. Lomo 800 is just so much more exciting and vivid. I gave it an extra stop as it tolerates over-exposure well, and saved me from two different film speeds.

It was one of those days with bright blue skies, cotton wool clouds blown on brisk breezes such that I feasted on colour, a rare thing for me. HMS Victory at Portsmouth Historic Dockyard, Leica M3 with Voigtlander 15mm Super Wide Heliar F4.5 (a gem of a lens for peanuts) developed at home.
Beautiful pic!
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I thank you Huss.
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This film is out of stock at both B & H and Freestyle with a note that none is expected until 2020. *** kind of film is this that can't be made until 2020?
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It's that kind of a film that you buy directly at Lomography.

I'd say that Lomography feels that they can sell whatever they have left of the this film without the need to give a cut to the middle man. And god knows what Kodak will charge them for the next run if they feel too many people are shooting Lomo 800 film. Kodak has competitively priced slower films, but at some point Lomo 800 was less than half the price of Portra 800. Lomo 800 has gone up in price recently but not significantly...
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This film is out of stock at both B & H and Freestyle with a note that none is expected until 2020. *** kind of film is this that can't be made until 2020?
I have 90 rolls of it coming tomorrow. Maybe try another store
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It's that kind of a film that you buy directly at Lomography.

I'd say that Lomography feels that they can sell whatever they have left of the this film without the need to give a cut to the middle man. And god knows what Kodak will charge them for the next run if they feel too many people are shooting Lomo 800 film. Kodak has competitively priced slower films, but at some point Lomo 800 was less than half the price of Portra 800. Lomo 800 has gone up in price recently but not significantly...
The pricing of Portra 800 seems off. It's older gen tech, and didn't get the Vision 3 update that Portra 400 did. It also really doesn't like underexposure so I wouldn't rate it at 800 anyway.
I guess Kodak price it as they do as Fuji don't have a competing product
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This film is available direct from Lomography for the price of $19.90 for three rolls, both 35mm and 120. Get it while its hot!
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This film is available direct from Lomography for the price of $19.90 for three rolls, both 35mm and 120. Get it while its hot!
if you are in LA it is also available from Samys and Freestyle Photo.
A month ago it was $14.90 for a 3 pack...
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OK, you convinced me, I have just ordered 6 packsx3 of Lomo 800 (120).
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Continuing my exploration of the 800. A beautifully patinated 1938 Ford V8 Pick up just arrived in a friend's workshop. Shot on the Mamiua RB67 Pro S

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