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Old 11-25-2019   #1
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Disposable P&S for hols...

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I am indeed going to a beach soon and in full sense, I am NOT bringing my Leica or any expensive camera with me...unless I want it to fall in the water and it to live happily ever after (not!).

So...I wondered if anyone had used any disposable cameras (I haven't used on in years) that is reasonably ok?

I'll be going through the airport and I noticed some of them have ISO800 film in it. Might go for something with 400 to be safe?
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Old 11-25-2019   #2
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Why not get a waterproof camera like an Olympus Tough TG-6 or a Sealife DC2000?
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Old 11-25-2019   #3
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I think that most all of the disposables are perfectly fine for what they do. Aren't some of them waterproof?
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Old 11-25-2019   #4
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Harman makes a reusable “disposable” camera, and Kodak and Fuji make waterproof disposable cameras.
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Disposables are for experience. This ones costs not much more, but reusable and will take any film.
https://www.ebay.com/p/55469982?iid=123851867613

I have one.

New film P&S with simple AF are also available:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...Condition=1000
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Old 11-25-2019   #6
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Nikon L35AW, not that expensive, I paid 35€:

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Old 11-25-2019   #7
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A Nikonos IV-A or V can be bought for very little money these days. Quieter than a Leica, excellent Nikon 35mm lens (for use above water.) There is an 80mm available as well. Good light meter, put whatever film in that you like. My Nikonos V is one of my very favorite cameras and definitely one I would carry if I were traveling anywhere water was involved. I got my whole setup for $25 locally.
Other than that, there are at least two brands of disposable camera which are water resistant, I remember maybe Fuji made one you could immerse down to maybe 12 feet.
There are also a few excellent point and shoot cameras which are waterproof that can be found for very cheap.
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Old 11-25-2019   #8
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Nikonos V like Phil said... good enough to use in the water or out of the water.
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A bunch of great suggestions. Think I will investigate for myself.
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All the suggestions above are very good.

I'll comment on the Nikonos V, which is a more expensive choice (at least a fully functioning one in the market today).

* It is very well sealed and hefty. The shutter sound is very muted and soft.

* The 35/2.5 lens, for use on land and underwater, is extremely sharp. It's one of the best 35mm lenses I've ever used and I will compare it favorably to my 35mm v4 Summicron.

* The shutter can be used in aperture priority or manual, and there is one mechanical (non-battery-dependent) speed. The viewfinder shows you both the selected speed and suggested speed in a clever manner.

* Metering is TTL - through the lens and, during exposure, is made off the film. You can make an exposure inside your house, non-flash, in a dim room, and the shutter will stay open long enough to make a good exposure (it may time-out at 30 seconds - I'm unsure since I never needed an exposure that long).

* Focusing is by scale, but you have nice moving depth of field indicators.

* Get the manual, because certain operations such as rewinding the film and use of the rewind knob are unusual (due to the water-seal nature of the camera).

* The lens can be rotated to put your preferred scale at the top. But read the manual on proper use of attaching, removing, or rotating the lens.

* I believe there is at least one place that will still replace seals if you want to use it on deep dives.

* Even Nikonos cameras with worn seals are extremely tight compared to other cameras.

It is a fantastic camera!
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Just get an Olympus Mju/Stylus. The original one with a 3.5 lens is great and you won't care too much if you drop it in water or get sand in it or leave it at a bar. Shouldn't cost you more than around $50 or so. You might find you like the small camera too and you'll get photos that you wouldn't get with a Leica because you can always have it with you...
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Any Sony will do because by the time you’re done thinking about it they will already have brought out 2 or 3 new generations.
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Disposables are for experience. This ones costs not much more, but reusable and will take any film.
https://www.ebay.com/p/55469982?iid=123851867613

I have one.

New film P&S with simple AF are also available:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...Condition=1000
Ok Ko.Fe has the winning suggestion.
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Old 11-25-2019   #15
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Konica off-road, and comparable worksite cameras by Nikon and Fuji should survive something like that fine and have much much better lenses. Heck, any cheap p&s has a much better lens and many can be had very, very cheap. You just need to waste a little film to test it, but after a few rolls you should come out cheaper than with disposable cameras, have better pictures, and produced less waste.
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Just get an Olympus Mju/Stylus. The original one with a 3.5 lens is great and you won't care too much if you drop it in water or get sand in it or leave it at a bar. Shouldn't cost you more than around $50 or so. You might find you like the small camera too and you'll get photos that you wouldn't get with a Leica because you can always have it with you...
YES. This was the one I was looking for but I can't seem to find any at the moment. I kinda left it too late as I'm going somewhere on the 15th of December. But I am still looking for one for those times...
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YES. This was the one I was looking for but I can't seem to find any at the moment. I kinda left it too late as I'm going somewhere on the 15th of December. But I am still looking for one for those times...
Another option is the Olympus Infinity II (35/2.8, non zoom, date or non-date). Clamshell with weatherproofing.
Not as small as the mju but still very sharp and reliable.
https://www.fstopcameras.com/pointandshoot/olympus-infinity-infinity-ii-point-and-shoot-35mm-film-camera-fully-functional
https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/6257...search_click=1

Alternate #1 is Olympus Infinity Jr with 35/3.5. Mju size but slower lens.
https://www.beauphoto.com/camera-spe...s-infinity-jr/

Alternate #2 is Olympus Trip 35 if AF and auto-winder is not needed.
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OP, are you looking for a waterproof camera that can be submerged for underwater shots, or just a cheap, splash resistant camera that you don't mind potentially getting destroyed by sand/water?

Also, where are you located? I'm not quite sure what MY+LDN means, and no sense in recommending US-based stores if you're based in the EU, for example.
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That would be Malaysia+London.


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Years ago I got the Minolta Underwater camera used for $30 -- still works

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Minolta_Weathermatic_35_DL
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YES. This was the one I was looking for but I can't seem to find any at the moment. I kinda left it too late as I'm going somewhere on the 15th of December. But I am still looking for one for those times...
I absolutely hated my original Stylus 3.5
Never encountered a camera that had that much delay in taking a pic. Aim, push shutter button, wait, wait ,wait, push harder, get mad at it, oh look it took a pic.
All the ones I tried were like that. So happy to sell mine.

So many better options out there.
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Has anyone mentioned the Harman Reloadable Camera?
https://kosmofoto.com/2019/10/harman...ntmere-camera/



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I got disposable cameras for use at the seaside but eventually bought a Canon Sure Shot A1. It was worth it. It's a simple robust camera and very well sealed.
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I would just buy a cheap SLR ... with a cheap lens. If it dies, buy another. Canon Rebel SLRs are dirt cheap on eBay. However, the Harman Reloadable Camera mentioned above looks fun too, but only one shutter speed and aperture. I'd probably go with a 120 Holga or Diana instead.
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Alternate #1 is Olympus Infinity Jr with 35/3.5. Mju size but slower lens.

I have this one. Cheap and it takes excellent pictures.
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That would be Malaysia+London.

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Thanks, maigo. That's what I guessed, too, but some people's location isn't up to date, so that's is why I asked.

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Years ago I got the Minolta Underwater camera used for $30 -- still works

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Minolta_Weathermatic_35_DL
I was going to recommend this, as there's one for sale from a US retailer, but not practical if the OP is based in Malaysia or London.

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I got disposable cameras for use at the seaside but eventually bought a Canon Sure Shot A1. It was worth it. It's a simple robust camera and very well sealed.
Also a solid choice, and one I actually have experience with. I took a quick peek on the Big Auction site, and seems prices have crept up steadily on the used market. I got mine for a reasonable price after a patient search, but seems the OP doesn't necessarily have the luxury of time.

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I would just buy a cheap SLR ... with a cheap lens. If it dies, buy another. Canon Rebel SLRs are dirt cheap on eBay. However, the Harman Reloadable Camera mentioned above looks fun too, but only one shutter speed and aperture. I'd probably go with a 120 Holga or Diana instead.
Cheap SLR is also a great suggestion! But not practical if OP needs something submersible, hence my question in Post #18.
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Cheap SLR is also a great suggestion! But not practical if OP needs something submersible, hence my question in Post #18.
Sounds like she is just scared of bringing expensive equipment to the beach from the original post...
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You are right, dourbalistar, the prices of the Canon Sure Shot A1 have crept up since I purchased mine...but not to a silly extent. I could rationalise such an expense by setting it against the cost of the holiday, the fact that the camera is reuseable etc.
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Disposable P&S for hols...

Sadly don't live by the seaside anymore but the craving for a Nikonos has always been there, never had one even after 3 seasons....

Not as lucky as Phil as all the ones I have seen have been $100+
My choice and recommendation is to get a cheap 90s-00s AF SLR with a kit zoom. As long as you don't submerge it's fine. Have used a F80 with a 28-80 for the purpose of beach shooting and even inches from water.
It did however eventually die due saltwater corrosion.

Had a Canon A1 gotten for 1GBP but it flooded in a couple dips... Prices are higher now.

Nikon F55, F65, EOS 300, etc etc. Many models that go for cheap and you can use single handed in PAS modes. Bonus is that their plastic construction makes them light plus you get a decent zoom!
+1 for dourbalistar and John's insight. The irony is that these SLRs are often as costly or cheaper than P&S'
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Pentax Zoom 90WR is a fantastic splash proof p&s that is dirt cheap. I got mine for free and it was worth every penny...
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Sounds like she is just scared of bringing expensive equipment to the beach from the original post...
Yes and no...

Yes because I'll be in Phuket and no one's going to take care of my personal belongings whilst I frolic in the sea...

Also yes because I'm going canoeing but don't think I'll be jumping in the water.

Not scared of bringing expensive equipment with me as long as I'm around...but this time I should actually go have fun and yet still being able to take photos...
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Years ago I got the Minolta Underwater camera used for $30 -- still works

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Minolta_Weathermatic_35_DL
I have that one too, in addition to Nikon L35AW. I paid 5 EUR for Minolta. Minolta IQ is not as good as Nikon (I have noticed quite big difference), but it does the job
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If having an actual camera along is the important part, I would probably see what any local thrift stores/flea markets/charity shops have for P&S cameras and choose based on which one seems to work and uses modern batteries. Treat it as a disposable that can be reloaded.
If being relatively unencumbered is the important thing, I would get one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/JOTO-Universa.../dp/B00LBK7OSY

If photography is the main point of the trip, then bring your usual camera and don't leave it unattended. And, I would look into travel insurance.

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