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Old 06-18-2014   #41
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My Pentax MX came in. Surprisingly it doesn't feel that great in the hand, unlike the ME Super. Might need a case or a grip of some sort. Simpler design and a more traditional shutter speed control are nice though.

I'm thinking of picking up the pancake 40mm f/2.8. How does it fare compared to the 50mm 1.7?
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Old 06-18-2014   #42
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My Pentax MX came in. Surprisingly it doesn't feel that great in the hand, unlike the ME Super. Might need a case or a grip of some sort. Simpler design and a more traditional shutter speed control are nice though.

I'm thinking of picking up the pancake 40mm f/2.8. How does it fare compared to the 50mm 1.7?
How does it compare to the Spotmatic ?
I'm still not entire sure if I should go K mount or invest more in the old m42 glass !
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How does it compare to the Spotmatic ?
I'm still no entire sure if I should go K mount or invest more in the old m42 glass !
Unfortunately I don't own a Spotmatic (though it should be on my list). From what I remember from handling one at a camera show once, the MX is far smaller. The MX isn't as light as I thought it'd be, but still acceptable.
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Here's another old Pentax user. 1990 I bought a Pentax P30n. That's a picture I shot then in Arles.

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This thread and the Pentax 67 is making me save my pennies for a P 645 set up
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loving my new (to me) M645, and P30n. Nice cameras and my SP500 was no slouch either. Had the lovely 55 f2 for that one. Yummy.
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Here's another old Pentax user. 1990 I bought a Pentax P30n. That's a picture I shot then in Arles.

Great, my P3n, which I think is the same as yours, is my favorite 35mm body. Only one complaint about it: no ISO control. So, I scratch and cellotape.
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My Pentax MX came in. Surprisingly it doesn't feel that great in the hand, unlike the ME Super. Might need a case or a grip of some sort. Simpler design and a more traditional shutter speed control are nice though.

I'm thinking of picking up the pancake 40mm f/2.8. How does it fare compared to the 50mm 1.7?
I have used Pentax since 1963,
Unless I wiped out a body or lens,or stolen, i still have most of it.
The 40mm is a great lens, quite sharp, but can flare.
Makes the unit coat pockeatable.

The MX needed the winder to hold better, being so small.
I never fitted batteries to winder!
The shutter dial on MX one of the stiffest to move!

I own a whole heap of Pentax screw and K mount.
The K-1000 my main pro tool in Southern California.
Yes! In an eveready case!
I never sold equipment, as I added the Nikon-F stuff.
The reason for going to Nikon was my eyesight.
The Nikon was easier to use for long periods..
without a headache.
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I have an early K1000, an MX, an SMC Pentax 50mm/f1.4, an SMC Pentax-M 28mm/f2.8, an SMC Pentax-M 85mm/f2 and at least three SMC Pentax or Pentax-M 50mm/f1.7 lenses (which seem to appear from everywhere, if you don't watch things closely). I also have a Pentax K200D which I bought cheaply to use MF lenses on a digital body. I have to say I think the way Pentax implemented support for manual focus and stopped-down metering for "legacy" lenses is the nicest I've ever experienced. I hope they continued that on subsequent cameras.

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I perhaps don't use them as much as I should, as I quite like the Pentax stuff...

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My Pentax MX came in. Surprisingly it doesn't feel that great in the hand, unlike the ME Super. Might need a case or a grip of some sort. Simpler design and a more traditional shutter speed control are nice though.

I'm thinking of picking up the pancake 40mm f/2.8. How does it fare compared to the 50mm 1.7?
If you keep an eye out on eBay you might come across a grip like this:

MX with added grip by ruby.monkey, on Flickr
- in which case you should grab it immediately. It's lighter and smaller than the winder and allows a very secure hold on the camera.

As for the 40mm /2.8, it can get a bit fiddly if your fingertips get sweaty (check out the focussing ring above) and it's not the fastest lens on the market; but it renders pleasantly and it makes the MX a very compact package.
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How big is the MX/40 combo compared to a Leica M
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Great, my P3n, which I think is the same as yours, is my favorite 35mm body. Only one complaint about it: no ISO control. So, I scratch and cellotape.
Yes, P30n and P3n should be the same. And I have to admit, I just recently learned what a great body it is. I really have to use it more often.
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How big is the MX/40 combo compared to a Leica M

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(The grip on the MX adds about 1/4" to its depth)
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Old 06-21-2014   #54
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How big is the MX/40 combo compared to a Leica M
Using a bendy plastic ruler (!), and with zero mechanical/scientific skill, I calculate that the filter rim of my 40mm sits about 21mm or 22mm proud of the MX. From the tip of that rim to the furthest point of the back of the MX is about 170mm.

The MX's body is 160mm high, or 180mm if you want to add in the miror housing, and 135mm wide, using the same imprecise methods.

I've no idea about a Leica M!

When I was a teenager in the seventies, I wanted a Pentax more than anything else. I think their smallness and overall aesthetics were the reasons; I certainly knew nothing about cameras or photography in general. My first one came in the eighties: a Pentax SFX. I don't know whether it was the first autofocus camera, but it was certainly a very early one. Just a few years later I bought an "old-fashioned" Pentax MG. With the invention of the internet and online trading sites came my MX and ME Super.
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Yes, P30n and P3n should be the same. And I have to admit, I just recently learned what a great body it is.
Also they are cheap enough now to be considered practically disposable.

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I just developed two rolls of Legacy Pro 400 film that I shot with my new, but used, Pentax Super Program. It is the first time in a long time that I have look at a developed roll and said to myself "well-exposed, beautiful bokeh and great sharpness." I hope to share some photos over the next couple of does.
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If this thread had not started then the thought would never have crossed my mind. I have just bought a 70's KM with a 50 K 1.4.
I'll probably run a few rolls through and then sell it.
I already have too many film cameras.
2 M2's
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An F5 so why I need this?

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The Pentax KM is a direct descendent of the venerable Spotmatic.
Pentax took the KM, deleted the self-timer and DOF preview and
made the K1000, a camera that launched a million photographers.

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If you keep an eye out on eBay you might come across a grip like this:

MX with added grip by ruby.monkey, on Flickr
- in which case you should grab it immediately. It's lighter and smaller than the winder and allows a very secure hold on the camera.... .
Nice grip. Do you happen to recall which ebay vendor sells them?
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I discovered that I need to over-expose by 1/2 stop to get the exposure I like with Pentax cameras. I compensated the ISO down a 1/2 stop to get the exposures I like. I do not know why, my camera is spot on, but the results look a little under-exposed after my first roll, hence the adjustment. Anyone else find that too?

I do love the rendering of the lenses!

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I don't know that I am a Pentaxian. I first used a Spotmatic about 1975, in my office in Korea. A full kit, including a 1000mm telephoto. I don't recall what the wides were. I never really used it other than to experiment, as I preferred my Fujica ST 901.

About 7 years ago I bought an SV. Nice camera. I probably haven't put 3 rolls through it. It had the aux meter that sat on the pentaprism, and it worked!

About a year ago, I got an ME Super and have used it some. It is a nice little camera with the 50mm f/2. It may yet go to my grandson. More recently I got another ME Super, with a 50mm f/1.4. Nice. I hope to test that against my other two 50mm f/1.4 lenses. I like the ME Super, but haven't fallen in love with it over my Fujica ST 901 nor my Contax 167mt.

So although I like Pentax, I haven't committed to it over my other two SLR systems. Maybe if I had more lenses (as if I needed another lens line ).
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EPM42484 by ruby.monkey, on Flickr


EPM42486 by ruby.monkey, on Flickr


EPM42487 by ruby.monkey, on Flickr

(The grip on the MX adds about 1/4" to its depth)
When Pentax did their adds, the M3 had a meter on top!
Size then very close..
The Pentax M is lighter.
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Hi,

Funnily enough, I shot a roll with my P30 this weekend - first time in a decade+ I have used it for anything. Appeared to still work a charm, I will develop the film tonight and see whether there are any light leaks or shutter issues.

In addition to the P30, I have a Pentax MG and a 67. The 67 sees quite a lot of use, but in 135 Nikon serves my SLR needs nicely. I've kept the MG for nostalgic purposes - it is just too basic to be of much use.
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Pentax MX, with 50mm. or 28mm.

Rides usually in a Domke F6 bag with my Nikon S2.
Camera capabilities are complimentary. ( Option of Rangefinder or SLR, as appropriate.)
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Nice grip. Do you happen to recall which ebay vendor sells them?
Sorry, no idea.

This particular item I bought second-hand from ffordes - it had no markings on it, and nobody knew who made it. I've seen very similar grips pop up occasionally for sale on eBay, usually by Chinese sellers, but unfortunately I never made a note of who they were.
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I have the Pentax MX grip. IIRC the Korean eBay seller described it as Horusbennu brand.

Vertical grip prevents easy use of self-timer/DOF preview lever due to insufficient clearance.
If you use either control frequently a half case is probably a better choice.

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Love the pre-Spotmatic models. I picked up a SV and 55mm f/2 Takumar for 20. Best SLR & lens purchase i've made in a long time. The lens is so smooth in operation. Same goes for the film advance.
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Got my first Pentax when I was about 12 years old. My Grandfather gave me one of his duplicate ME Supers. Still have that camera along with a MX and a KM. I have a handful of Pentax lenses including the 28/3.5, 50/2, 50/1.7, 55/1.8, 135/3.5 in K mount and 28/3.5 and 135/3.5 Taks in M42. The 28 Takumar and 135 K mount are my favorites.
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I recently came across a box of Kodachrome slides which I shot in 1976 with my Spotmatic. They document the progress of a nest of Great Horned Owls on San Bruno Mountain south of San Francisco.



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The cases are here and look good


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...759526&afsrc=1


An early Zhou Bessa R case will also fit (the ones marked Rangefinderforum!) you do need a spacer at the bottom of the case, around 3mm high density foam or rubber does the trick, to line up strap lugs.

Try also the Cosina CSR (old SLR) case or CV case for the Bessas - both of roughly the same size and heritage, but mayalso need a small spacer.


My grip was from a Korean seller - not sure of the ebay name. DOF lever is ok, self timer is fiddly.



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I have the Pentax MX grip. IIRC the Korean eBay seller described it as Horusbennu brand.

Vertical grip prevents easy use of self-timer/DOF preview lever due to insufficient clearance.
If you use either control frequently a half case is probably a better choice.

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More from my latest two rolls.

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Here's a link to the MX half-case currently available on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281309563264

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Nice! I have to ponder though, since it's more than what I paid for the MX.

Too bad it's not a more universal option.
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Besides my great 6x7; I have a Spot (1969), 2 P3n, SFn, ZX-5. I like the P3n for many reasons; viewfinder the most. I bought the SFn, and the ZX-5 to have an auto, AF camera. I like the ZX-5 the best of the AF cameras, but they are very prone to failure. All that said, my thing, about Pentax, because most all manufacturer bodies are all the same, I like the ZX-5 the best for AF (it has analog dials), but the failure possibility makes me keep the SFn. As I've said the P3n is tough, small, great viewfinder, but DX only.

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Lenses yes, camera no. I bought an M 50/1.7 to use on an Olympus E410 with an adapter, which piqued my curiosity for giving film a go. I ended up with a Ricoh XR7 (pretty good balance of features IMHO), and subsequently a very, very cheap KR10. I predominantly use the 50/1.7 a 50/2.0 (made in Taiwan oddly) and a 28/2.8 (I also have a non-Pentax 24mm, 35mm and 135mm - none particularly good).

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Maiku, really nice work. I like your style.

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I got the KM and 50 1.4 off of ebay a couple of days ago. There was a dent on the top plate and it wouldn't focus on infinity. I checked at 1m on a tripod and it read 0.7m!
I took the top plate off, very easy on these SPotmatic/K bodies and knocked out the dent. I then took the prism off and gave that a clean out. All looked normal and it did focus at infinity with another lens so after putting it all back together I turned attention to the lens.
Unscrewed the front ring using a rear cap and a piece of rubber inner tube and then removed the 3 screws holding the filter mount. This reveals a brass coloured ring held by 3 screws. Loosen these and turn the focus ring approx 1cm and re tighten 1 screw. Quick check at infinity and then a fine tune at 1m. After a couple of adjustments re tighten. I checked at 0.45, 0.7 and 1m on the scale against a tape measure from wall to film plane and all looks good. I'll film test it this week. Oh and a new battery had the meter back to life and accurate. I really like the bracket and needle meter on these.
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I love my SMC Takumars 28/3.5, 55/1.8 and Macro 50/4. They are the best built lenses, period. It's amazing how so many of them still look basically new after 40 years, or so.
I own MF Nikkors and Leica-R lenses, and the SMC Takumars have better materials and smoother operation than either. I use them on my MX and ME Super with adapter. I prefer using these small and quiet cameras over my Leica M gear.
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Waiting on a bargain 8-element 50/1.4... looked a bit of a beater.. but I might be surprised..
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