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Old 06-19-2017   #81
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A few years back, I was contacted by Google to see if more improvements were required to improve their recent purchase of the software.

Evidently the survey indicated no further development was required.
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Old 06-25-2017   #82
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Geees, I'm with Larry on this one. We aren't wanting something for nothing. It's only reasonable to expect paying for updates. But that's not what we ended up with.

I'm turning big time Sour on Google when, at one time, I thought they were on my side.
There's no reason they have to lose money on this product!
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Old 06-25-2017   #83
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Geees, I'm with Larry on this one. We aren't wanting something for nothing. It's only reasonable to expect paying for updates. But that's not what we ended up with.

I'm turning big time Sour on Google when, at one time, I thought they were on my side.
There's no reason they have to lose money on this product!
Their original corporate motto "do no evil" got left by the wayside years ago. The big disrupter new way of doing business have grown into classic monopolies with a deep penetration into people's private lives. Bullies with a multi-billion dollar budget to pursue their hidden agendas.
I'm sure the good folks Americans sent to Washington to represent them are taking care of it though...

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Old 06-26-2017   #84
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Their original corporate motto "do no evil" got left by the wayside years ago. The big disrupter new way of doing business have grown into classic monopolies with a deep penetration into people's private lives. Bullies with a multi-billion dollar budget to pursue their hidden agendas.
I'm sure the good folks Americans sent to Washington to represent them are taking care of it though...
I don't know how people come to the conclusion that they have the right to claim unlimited maintenance of a software. No software company has to offer that. As long as they don't actively shut down your software they are not responsible if over the years your software environment changes and the software does not run anymore.

If your business relies on a software running long term, you normally pay a yearly maintenance fee on your initial purchase just to ensure that your software is up to date...or you rent it.
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Old 06-26-2017   #85
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I think Google was only interested in the U-Point technology that was part of the Nik tools and was patented. It's an essential part of all tools so making the software open source is kind of a problem.
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New news: https://dpreview.com/news/1675836798...r-free-for-now
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Old 10-25-2017   #87
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I am a capitalist, but do not believe in predatory tactics. Buying up competition is in that category.

Google is a mighty mouse with too much money.

They may have plans to bring out their own version and likely to be used on phones only, yes I said only. And they will use the tech from Nik to do it. It will not be free.

The way to stop this is to not use Google. There are equally good search engines out there.
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Old 10-25-2017   #88
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That is good news! Coupled with the Lightroom standalone product dying, it means I'm watching DXO and considering my next move.
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Old 10-25-2017   #89
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Never used Silver Efex Pro. I created my own B&W rendering workflow in 2004, modified it a tiny bit when LR came out in 2006, and still use it. To me, black box packages like this are always a liability. I'd rather figure out how to get what works for me with standard tools and eschew any of these dependencies.

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DxO acquires Nik Collection assets from Google, plans to continue to develop....
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DxO acquires Nik Collection assets from Google, plans to continue to develop....

Good news! for Nik/ Silver Efex fans: https://nikcollection.dxo.com
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Excellent!
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Old 10-25-2017   #92
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That's good news.
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Agree. Good news.
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Unexpected good news!
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Good news, especially if they also plan to end up with a real LR competitor that doesn't require a subscription.
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Whew! So far my Nik software has worked fine, but I've been scared to upgrade anything...
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Old 10-25-2017   #97
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That is good news - so long as they make it available as a plugin for other products. For now I am OK I recently upgraded to Lightroom and Corel Paintshop Pro both running Nik plugins. I do my basic processing in Lightroom then click on a button to drop into Corel and or Nik to do anything more complex that is needed. My Lightroom wil go the way of all flesh eventually given they want to go down the subscription route so a standalone replacement will not be available whent he time comes and when it does I hope to continue running Nik under Corel alone.
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Hate me for it, but I'd love to see them bring an updated / their version of Snapseed now.
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Good news indeed, timed well with the recent LR news.
Snapseed is my goto mobile software, love it.
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I suspect Google will retain control over Snapseed's technology.

Google had no interest in NIK. That's how come they gave it away for free. Eventually, DxO will monetize NIK – most likely by adding or improving functionality. That's OK with me.

I guess the original NIK will be available for a plug-in until it becomes operationally incompatible with new operating systems.
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I suspect Google will retain control over Snapseed's technology.

Google had no interest in NIK. That's how come they gave it away for free. Eventually, DxO will monetize NIK – most likely by adding or improving functionality. That's OK with me.

I guess the original NIK will be available for a plug-in until it becomes operationally incompatible with new operating systems.
Just to get it straight:

DxO bought the "Nik Collection" (Silver Efex, Color Efex...) off Google.
Google kept Snapseed, which was originally developed "Nik Software" as well.
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Good news! for Nik/ Silver Efex fans: https://nikcollection.dxo.com
I like it for colorfx. There is one tool in there that is excellent for correcting colour casts. It is under the pro contrast tool.
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I like it for colorfx. There is one tool in there that is excellent for correcting colour casts. It is under the pro contrast tool.
I use Colorefx more than any of their other plugins. I simply find it most useful - the range of correction tools is astounding - and powerful. Combine it with their selective thingy that all thier plugins have and it is astoundingly powerful and useful.
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