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Old 02-15-2019   #1
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Nikon F6 - where can I buy one new?

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I believe the title says it all. I'm thinking of buying a new Nikon F6 - as it's generally agreed it's still in production. But where can I find one in Europe (to buy online)? Any ideas?

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Grays of Westminster in London sell them new - but don't have online ordering, just old fashioned telephone ordering.
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Peter Walnes has a mint, used one, just arrived. He ships anywhere.

https://secure.peterwalnes.com/
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Search Japanese eBay, many excellent condition Nikons there, not only F6 but also F5 and older models. Just prepare to pay customs fees when package enters Europe.
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Hi everyone,

I believe the title says it all. I'm thinking of buying a new Nikon F6 - as it's generally agreed it's still in production. But where can I find one in Europe (to buy online)? Any ideas?

Thanks,
Alex
Hi Alex,

in Europe you can get the F6 for example in Germany at
- Nikon Germany directly:
https://www.nikon.de/de_DE/product/f...-slr-camera-f6

- Brenner Fotoversand:
https://www.fotobrenner.de/kameras/a...gehaeuse?c=132

- Amazon:
https://www.amazon.de/Nikon-FAA410NA...words=Nikon+F6

And most of the bigger German dealers with local shops (chains) like Foto Gregor, Foto Leistenschneider, Fotomax can order it for you, too.

As someone who is using the F6 with MB-40 vertical grip for years I highly recommend it. The best 35mm SLR ever built. Period.
I've used mine just today, and have shot the new Adox HR-50 film .
Go for a brand new F6, you will not regret it.

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Thank you, everyone, for your help. Before posting here, all my attempts to find this piece of info on google were in vain. I shall consider all the suggestions. Once again, thank you!
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Old 02-16-2019   #7
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Hi everyone,

I believe the title says it all. I'm thinking of buying a new Nikon F6 - as it's generally agreed it's still in production. But where can I find one in Europe (to buy online)? Any ideas?

Thanks,
Alex
$2600 for a brand new one, or $900 for a mint one, with return privileges if you dont like it (ebay). I'm not sure what the extra $1700 buys you.
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$2600 for a brand new one, or $900 for a mint one, with return privileges if you dont like it (ebay). I'm not sure what the extra $1700 buys you.

In Britain, the difference between a second one in mint condition and a new one is about 1000 pounds, which is less than 1300 US dollars. True, it's a huge amount. But... You do get the piece of mind. Then you help Nikon keeping the production of the F6 alive. Then you get new electronics, as we all know that the electronics will fail first. An unused F6 from 10 years ago might have only 10 years of useful life, simply because the electronics will eventually fail. A new F6 might double the life expectancy. And, fourth, I'm one of those with hard luck finding used cameras in good condition. I've been burnt too many times. I think the shipping costs for various returns would have bought a nice camera. Of course, I exaggerate, but you get the point. For how advanced it is, the F6 in new condition is an absolute bargain compared to the Leica MP.
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I know that feeling. Most threads on the RFF have this effect...
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In Britain, the difference between a second one in mint condition and a new one is about 1000 pounds, which is less than 1300 US dollars. True, it's a huge amount. But... You do get the piece of mind. Then you help Nikon keeping the production of the F6 alive. Then you get new electronics, as we all know that the electronics will fail first. An unused F6 from 10 years ago might have only 10 years of useful life, simply because the electronics will eventually fail. A new F6 might double the life expectancy. And, fourth, I'm one of those with hard luck finding used cameras in good condition. I've been burnt too many times. I think the shipping costs for various returns would have bought a nice camera. Of course, I exaggerate, but you get the point. For how advanced it is, the F6 in new condition is an absolute bargain compared to the Leica MP.
+1.
But you can be much more optimistic concerning the long term stability of electronics. Have a look at the first electronic cameras which were introduced in the 70ies like the Canon AE-1. Most of them are still working after 40 years. And those which are defunct mostly died because of crashed mechanics.
For example when the Nikon F3 was introduced, most professionals were rather sceptical because of the electronics. But in a few years the F3 has proven its reliability and now it belongs to the most legendary cameras.

If the electronic is very well made, it will last very very long. And the F6 is made with highest professional standards, for long term professional use.
If you take a bit care for it, it will certainly last for at least 35 years, probably for much longer.
And for such a long time the price of a new F6 is negligible. It are just some bucks per year.
A new F6 used for decades is not only one of the best options, but also one of the cheapest options for an outstanding SLR.
I am using one, too. For more than a decade now. And it works perfectly. Dream camera.
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Beware the gray market cameras. I'm not sure how it works in other parts of the world, but in the US, Nikon will not honor a warranty on those. I would just go w/ a good used one rather than a new one. Those things are nearly impossible to kill. I prefer the n8008s cameras because you can buy them for $30 and they have every feature I would ever need, including matrix, center and spot metering, focus screens that can be replaced in 10 seconds, a 1/8000 top shutter speed, and easy to find AA batteries.
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There are three Nikon Professional camera stores in Romania.

https://www.nikonisti.ro/parteneri

I'm sure any one of them would be happy to get an F6 for you.
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If people are still shooting electronic cameras from the '80s and '90s, there's no worry at all about buying a used F6. For a $1700 savings, you can buy two and still have money, a lot of money, left over compared to buying a new one.
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If people are still shooting electronic cameras from the '80s and '90s, there's no worry at all about buying a used F6. For a $1700 savings, you can buy two and still have money, a lot of money, left over compared to buying a new one.
Actually there is. Look up/google tin whiskers.
Those old electronic cameras used lead flux, but that has been banned due to the effects to the environment. It has been replaced with tin which has life expectancy issues in electronics. Something that lead flux was immune to.

edit - it seems mfgs are mitigating the effects of whiskers via coatings of the related parts.
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... the n8008s cameras...
These turn heads every time they take a picture
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True, in the states but at this price may be worth the shipping and VAT. Me I have a difficult time in deciphering why this is better than my F100. Or F2. Or Nikkormat -
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This always confuses me.

The guy says he wants new.

Fine.

He even went so far as to give reasons.

Good reasons.

Again, fine.

Yet many posters are doing their best to convince him to buy a used camera.

???Why???

...and then we whine that no one is building new cameras and that the film revival cannot continue unless there are new cameras available.

...???...
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This always confuses me.

The guy says he wants new.

Fine.

He even went so far as to give reasons.

Good reasons.

Again, fine.

Yet many posters are doing their best to convince him to buy a used camera.

???Why???

...and then we whine that no one is building new cameras and that the film revival cannot continue unless there are new cameras available.

...???...
Thank you, Pioneer. Not that I don't appreciate everybody's input. I certainly do. There is a big difference between new and second hand, although the much quoted sum of 1700 dollars is exaggerated.

I'll try to buy it locally. Actually, yesterday I already visited the largest camera retailer in my home country, F64, and they told me they are going to call me in a couple of days. If I buy it from them, I can even pay it in 24 monthly installments (without interest), which is not bad.

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There is a big difference between new and second hand, although the much quoted sum of 1700 dollars is exaggerated.

Not even a little bit.
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Not even a little bit.
A brand new Nikon F6 at Grays of Westminster is 1899GBP. A mint condition (not like-new condition) Nikon F6 sold by Peter Walnes is 875GBP. In US dollars, the difference is about 1300. So, again, the quoted 1700 is an exaggeration.
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A brand new Nikon F6 at Grays of Westminster is 1899GBP. A mint condition (not like-new condition) Nikon F6 sold by Peter Walnes is 875GBP. In US dollars, the difference is about 1300. So, again, the quoted 1700 is an exaggeration.
Mint condition F6's are found on ebay for $900.

A new one at B & H is $2546.

That's $1646 more expensive. So yeah, I guess I did exaggerate by $54.
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I bought my Canon 1V off ebay many years ago. I dont recall the price difference from a new one at the time but it was easily $1000 or more cheaper. It's been flawless all these years.
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This always confuses me.

The guy says he wants new.

Fine.

He even went so far as to give reasons.

Good reasons.

Again, fine.

Yet many posters are doing their best to convince him to buy a used camera.

???Why???

...and then we whine that no one is building new cameras and that the film revival cannot continue unless there are new cameras available.

...???...
Exactly!!
You've nailed it.

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Here's a vid I learned about the new and used camera shopping from Japan https://youtu.be/iqyFuf9_sd8
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Mint condition F6's are found on ebay for $900.

A new one at B & H is $2546.

That's $1646 more expensive. So yeah, I guess I did exaggerate by $54.
Hi Ted,

I admit that the situation may be different in the US. In Europe, the difference is less. Even if I find a mint F6 at a Japanese seller, I still have to pay VAT and taxes, which means an extra 25% to the sale price.

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My two cents...if and when living in Romania, I'd buy a brand-new one.
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Hi Ted,

I admit that the situation may be different in the US. In Europe, the difference is less. Even if I find a mint F6 at a Japanese seller, I still have to pay VAT and taxes, which means an extra 25% to the sale price.

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I didn't know VAT was added to used gear.
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I didn't know VAT was added to used gear.
Used or not, when you buy something from outside the Union, you have to pay VAT and taxes. Which means that, if I buy a mint F6 from Japan, I might actually pay more than for a brand new one from a seller in Europe.
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Used or not, when you buy something from outside the Union, you have to pay VAT and taxes. Which means that, if I buy a mint F6 from Japan, I might actually pay more than for a brand new one from a seller in Europe.
Unlikely. Mint prices in Japan are $900-$1000. There's no reason to pay more than that if you are sourcing out of Japan. Even with VAT that's a huge savings over a new one.
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Unlikely. Mint prices in Japan are $900-$1000. There's no reason to pay more than that if you are sourcing out of Japan. Even with VAT that's a huge savings over a new one.
Ted, you want to demonstrate that buying a new F6 makes no sense. I understand your point and I'm not forcing mine. Living where I live and taking all the facts into consideration, my conclusion is that it makes more sense to buy new. You disagree and I noted your point. Given your insistence, however, I have to remind you that in this thread I was asking my fellow RFFers where can I buy a new F6, not whether I should buy a new one or a second-hand one.

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Ted, you want to demonstrate that buying a new F6 makes no sense. I understand your point and I'm not forcing mine. Living where I live and taking all the facts into consideration, my conclusion is that it makes more sense to buy new. You disagree and I noted your point. Given your insistence, however, I have to remind you that in this thread I was asking my fellow RFFers where can I buy a new F6, not whether I should buy a new one or a second-hand one.

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Dear Alex,
I completely agree with you!
I've bought my F6, MB-40 and MV-1 also brand new and I have never regretted that decision! For me that is a kind of "once in a lifetime" purchase. Products I'll use for decades.
And, by the way, arguing with "Ted Striker" is just a waste of time. His posts are always driven only by his own points of view ignoring the wishes and needs and completely different circumstances of other photographers.
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Dear Alex,
I completely agree with you!
I've bought my F6, MB-40 and MV-1 also brand new and I have never regretted that decision! For me that is a kind of "once in a lifetime" purchase. Products I'll use for decades.
And, by the way, arguing with "Ted Striker" is just a waste of time. His posts are always driven only by his own points of view ignoring the wishes and needs and completely different circumstances of other photographers.
Skiff,

Thank you very much for your encouragement. For me, it's also that kind of "once in a lifetime" purchase. Let's hope that the local store will be able to bring one F6 at a reasonable price. Can't wait for that phone call...

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Skiff,

Thank you very much for your encouragement. For me, it's also that kind of "once in a lifetime" purchase. Let's hope that the local store will be able to bring one F6 at a reasonable price. Can't wait for that phone call...

Thanks,
Alex
You're welcome.
If they cannot get one for you, just use a distributor in another EU country. Trade across borders is one of the numerous big advantages of the EU and our common Europe. E.g. a friend of mine just recently bought a new one in Germany and all was fine.
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Hopefully it works out with your local suppliers and what a great thing to be buying.
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This always confuses me.

The guy says he wants new.

Fine.

He even went so far as to give reasons.

Good reasons.

Again, fine.

Yet many posters are doing their best to convince him to buy a used camera.

???Why???

...and then we whine that no one is building new cameras and that the film revival cannot continue unless there are new cameras available.

...???...
Because they are trolls who are ALWAYS CORRECT! and will continue insisting until all others are silent, despite having made all of their points repeatedly. It's a disturbing trend on RFF. Over the years RFF has generally been civil and friendly, but that may be changing.
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Because they are trolls who are ALWAYS CORRECT! and will continue insisting until all others are silent, despite having made all of their points repeatedly. It's a disturbing trend on RFF. Over the years RFF has generally been civil and friendly, but that may be changing.
RFF has always had this element and in my opinion it has been much worse historically. The advent of social media has taken a lot of them away where they can express their curmudgeonly opinions with few repercussions.
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RFF has always had this element and in my opinion it has been much worse historically. The advent of social media has taken a lot of them away where they can express their curmudgeonly opinions with few repercussions.
Keith,

I hope that you are correct. I've been active for less than a year this time, having gone silent for 3 years or so.

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I hope that you are correct. I've been active for less than a year this time, having gone silent for 3 years or so.

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Reasonably well behaved but certainly not the buzz that it used to have in my opinion.
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Skiff,

Thank you very much for your encouragement. For me, it's also that kind of "once in a lifetime" purchase. Let's hope that the local store will be able to bring one F6 at a reasonable price. Can't wait for that phone call...

Thanks,
Alex
Hi Alex, just a further addition:
I can highly recommend using the MB-40 vertical grip with the F6.
Because you get
- improved ergonomics
- perfect handling for shots in vertical orientation (e.g. portraits)
- the possibility to use both the original Nikon rechargeable battery and AA cells (normal and rechargeable); that is a huge advantage! I use Panasonic eneloop rechargeable AA cells in my F6, and it works perfectly: I get 35 - 50 rolls per charge
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