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Old 03-09-2018   #1
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X-E2 prices

A year ago I upgraded from my X-E2 to the X-Pro2. Mostly for the optical VF. The X-Pro 2 is a fantastic camera but is a very complicated and confusing camera. In exasperation I went back to my X-E2 and thought about selling the X-Pro2. The results, and my requirements, are satisfied by the X-E2 and I starting considering that the X-Pro2 was a mistake.

The point I'm trying to make is that for actual picture taking the X-E2 is as good as the X-Pro2. But the camera sells for next to nothing. I think the average price on eBay is about $250 with many nice ones selling for around $200. This says something about digital cameras and resale value. Doesn't matter how good they are, a new model with a few added features relegates the previous model to Goodwill status. I have a Nikon D200, fantastic camera worth nothing.

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Old 03-09-2018   #2
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I recently got an X pro 1 with Fuji grip for $350CDN. Might be the best money I've spent on a camera. Works perfectly. I personally wouldn't be without the OFV. It really adds a lot. The XE2 I'm sure is a fine camera, but it is a bit small and without the OFV is a non starter for me. All digital cameras have a learning curve, but that being said, its set it and forget it. When the X pro 2 drops to a similar price, I may indulge...
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The reason the XE2 has lost value is that it has been superseded by the XE2S and the XE3, and in the process has gone from 16MP to 24MP. I upgraded from the XE2 to the XT2, but kept the XE2 as a second body. I still enjoy using it, and prefer its haptics to the XE3.
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I have several older digital cameras I chose to keep rather than sell due to the low resale prices. All of them work fine but I've moved to cameras I like better. Maybe some day I'll just box them up and take what KEH would offer for them, if anything.

XE2 is a capable camera. Upgrading the firmware makes it essentially the same thing as the XE2S. If you like it, use it. I don't have an XPro2 but I do have 3 XPro1's and I love them. I've read a lot about the XPro2 and I don't recall it appearing to be significantly more complicated than the XPro1. But if you don't like using it you'll probably get a decent price for it since it's a more current model.
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But the camera sells for next to nothing. I think the average price on eBay is about $250 with many nice ones selling for around $200.
I think this is the X-E1 price not the X-E2 price... the X-E2 routinely sells for $300+ on eBay. Check SOLD auctions.

To me, this is the beauty of digital cameras... don't buy new, buy used a few years later and you have a great camera at a fraction of the price.
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I recently got an X pro 1 with Fuji grip for $350CDN. Might be the best money I've spent on a camera. Works perfectly. I personally wouldn't be without the OFV. It really adds a lot. The XE2 I'm sure is a fine camera, but it is a bit small and without the OFV is a non starter for me. All digital cameras have a learning curve, but that being said, its set it and forget it. When the X pro 2 drops to a similar price, I may indulge...
Well, the OVF is everything to me.

I have owned four X-Series OVF cameras. The X-Pro 2 is the best by far. The shadow region and low-light IQ is significantly better than the X-Pro 1. With XF lenses using the newest focusing motor technology, manual focusing using the lens collar is actually practical. The AF performance is significantly better (even with the oldest XF lenses). Besides price, the only disadvantage is a shorter battery life. This difference depends on how you use the camera.

I use practically no automation.

The learning curve is a real issue. There's almost two cameras to learn because there are two finder modes. But it's worth it.
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Dogman, three X P1s...sounds good.

I have two XP2s and would like---but admit do not need---a third.
Following Rockit's advice--- only used and/or only if below four figures. There will be excellent Pro 2 bargains for those who can resist the siren call of a future X Pro3

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XE1 for $150 and it arrived almost new condition. It's a backup to my XT1 which is plenty camera for my needs. I'm just a guy with a camera who enjoys the color from Fujifilm and likes the way the camera looks. The XE1 produces excellent images with the 23/2 lens. The XE2 probably does as well.

I don't chase megapixels.
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Old 03-10-2018   #9
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I got an X-Pro 1 for $200. I barely use it as the X-Pro2 is so much better ergonomically and my x100f functions nicely as a fixed lens smaller XPro camera but I just can't tell myself to sell along a former flagship camera for basically nothing. It's still an amazing camera but yeah value dropping is so significant.
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To me, this is the beauty of digital cameras... don't buy new, buy used a few years later and you have a great camera at a fraction of the price.
Like he said

Peoples' fickle emotions drive marketplace value.
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I bought a near mint X-E2 for £205 (about $285) back in November to replace my X-A1. Lovely camera without one of those (to me) annoying touch screens.
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Sold all my lenses but been unable to sell my mint Xe2, so I’ve now ordered the tiny 27mm so it gets used again.
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i have one xe1 and 2 xe2 bodies...all in great shape...tried selling and trading them but they all sit here still...prices are low...best to keep them as backup i guess.
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My observation wasn't that newer cameras are better, it's digital cameras are almost throw away. As an example before digital, A used Nikkormat EL did not drop that much in price when the Nikon FE was introduced. The El still commanded a fair price even after the FE2 came out.

In the digital world cameras depreciate faster than any other commodity I can think off. Maybe even faster than smart phones.
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A year ago I upgraded from my X-E2 to the X-Pro2. Mostly for the optical VF. The X-Pro 2 is a fantastic camera but is a very complicated and confusing camera. In exasperation I went back to my X-E2 and thought about selling the X-Pro2. The results, and my requirements, are satisfied by the X-E2 and I starting considering that the X-Pro2 was a mistake.

The point I'm trying to make is that for actual picture taking the X-E2 is as good as the X-Pro2. But the camera sells for next to nothing. I think the average price on eBay is about $250 with many nice ones selling for around $200. This says something about digital cameras and resale value. Doesn't matter how good they are, a new model with a few added features relegates the previous model to Goodwill status. I have a Nikon D200, fantastic camera worth nothing.

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I do not have, nor have I ever used, a Fuji camera, but I am with you. I think you're caught between two contradictions, but it seems to me that so far you have managed to negotiate the issues well enough.

The first issue seems specific to Fuji - this idea to blend old and new technologies with EVF/OVF. If I want to use an ocular viewfinder I pick up a film rangefinder (and I often do). If I use my mirrorless digital camera, I have a very good EVF (as does the XE-2). Electronic camera with an electronic viewfinder: it makes sense to me.

The second issue sweeps across the entire photographic world: the ferocious competition for customers in a shrinking market during a period of rapid technical innovation. Fuji has to bugger its customers' investment in a camera by entering into an endless game of product innovation. The consequence is that last year's product loses value rapidly. Everybody in the photography business today (now even Nikon) has to play this little game. Fuji has very little choice.

My only advice to you is to consider selling the X-Pro II soon. I wouldn't do it straight away because you could change your mind and decide you have use for the camera after all, but neither would I hold onto if it is sitting around collecting dust. I would think as the new top-of-the-line Fuji model, the Pro II would fetch a handsome price. You'll take a hit, but not so much as if you hang on to it for months that turn into a year or two.

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if i think about how much money i've saved as a result of shooting digital over film (given today's film and dev costs) then my xe2 is well into positive equity. That said, I have found sig difference between each era of the xe series. The xe1 was basic and worked as a cheap backup to the xp1, the xe2 added good film sim modes and better control of colour, shadow and hight light tones. The xp2,xt20,xe3 series gave us acros mode which is a god sent
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In the digital world cameras depreciate faster than any other commodity I can think off. Maybe even faster than smart phones.
Computers... in general. In premium brands keep their price on the used market and others do not. Camera processors and sensors get outdated.... big difference here. We are in the infancy of digital still.

The XE2 was $900 new and now sells for $300+ generally speaking. 33% of new. Mechanical cameras didn't change much when a new one was introduced. They took the same film. Digital depreciation, to me, is analogous to what I'd spend on film.
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Nice to see prices on the X-E2 coming down. I'm perfectly happy with my X-E1, but since I shoot JPEG exclusively, I'd really like the Classic Chrome film simulation.
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I just traded my X-T10 for a silver X-E2 (which will pair nicely with my black X-E2!) I make my living with two X-T1 bodies, still have the original X-A1 body that got me to sell all my Nikon equipment and 'go mirrorless' initially and I used to own an X-P1, but I LOOOOVE the X-E bodies the best. If Fuji would listen to me, they'd put a flip LCD on the X-E body and make tons of money! (I'd buy three.)

Interestingly, I was looking at buying another X-20 body as a gift and the 1/2" sensor'd X-20 is selling for about TWICE the price of an APS-C sensor'd X-E2 right now! Markets are fickle.
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