Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > Cameras / Gear / Photography > Fuji X Series > Fuji X Series

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

too hot! damn!!
Old 10-17-2017   #1
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
too hot! damn!!

just pulled the xe3 out of my bag...had left the camera on by mistake...and it was very hot, too hot, hotter than it's ever supposed to be.
i have to say that i am more than a little pissed off...i don't like complications, especially when it comes to pricey gear.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #2
PKR
Registered User
 
PKR is offline
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,485
Quote:
Originally Posted by back alley View Post
just pulled the xe3 out of my bag...had left the camera on by mistake...and it was very hot, too hot, hotter than it's ever supposed to be.
i have to say that i am more than a little pissed off...i don't like complications, especially when it comes to pricey gear.
Isn't there a "sleep mode" that can be user set as to duration?
__________________
The camera is an instrument that teaches people how to see without a camera. Dorothea Lange
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #3
ornate_wrasse
Moderator
 
ornate_wrasse's Avatar
 
ornate_wrasse is offline
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,194
Quote:
Originally Posted by PKR;27625e23
Isn't there a "sleep mode" that can be user set as to duration?
I was basically wondering the same thing. With my DSLR cameras, they automatically turn off after a certain number of minutes of no activity.

I hope nothing is seriously wrong with the camera as that would be a major bummer.

Keep us informed as to what caused it to get so hot.
__________________
Images

www.pbase.com/ornate_wrasse

Leica M9, Leica M6, Leica M3 - 21mm 3.4 Super Angulon, 28mm 2.8 Elmarit, 35mm Summicron, Nikkor SC 50mm 1.4, Carl Zeiss Jena 50mm 1.5, CV 75mm 2.5, Nikkor 8.5cm 2.0

Mamiya 6 - 50mm f4, 75mm f3.5, 150mm f4.5

Fuji X-Pro1 - 16-55mm f/2.8, 27mm f/2.8
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #4
pyeh
Registered User
 
pyeh is online now
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Taylor Square
Age: 58
Posts: 578
Perhaps while it was in the bag it, the shutter release might have been activated and it was trying to take a series of very long exposures. That would heat the sensor up. I've done that with my cameras and drained the battery. Having a soft release exacerbated the problem.
Setting auto-shutoff for, say, two minutes, doesn't help because the trigger keeps activating in the bag if you put in the camera while it's turned on.
__________________
Peter
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #5
Yokosuka_Mike
The Beat Goes On
 
Yokosuka_Mike's Avatar
 
Yokosuka_Mike is offline
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Yokosuka, Japan
Age: 64
Posts: 1,860
None of my Bessa rangefinders ever warmed up or over heated when left in my camera bag
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #6
BillBingham2
Registered User
 
BillBingham2's Avatar
 
BillBingham2 is offline
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ames, Iowa, USA
Posts: 5,873
Sounds like a time for a read of the manual about 'Sleep Mode' or some such magic. I know with some cases the shutter release gets depressed and will drain the battery. I'm wondering about the heat (yes there might be damage) and why? I don't have anything this new, but with PCs they need air movement of some type, perhaps it was too tight a case?

Love to hear what you find out.

B2 (;->
  Reply With Quote

Second this.
Old 10-17-2017   #7
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
 
Darthfeeble's Avatar
 
Darthfeeble is offline
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Logtown, California, USA
Age: 72
Posts: 1,465
Second this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pyeh View Post
Perhaps while it was in the bag it, the shutter release might have been activated and it was trying to take a series of very long exposures. That would heat the sensor up. I've done that with my cameras and drained the battery. Having a soft release exacerbated the problem.
Setting auto-shutoff for, say, two minutes, doesn't help because the trigger keeps activating in the bag if you put in the camera while it's turned on.
I've done just that.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #8
PKR
Registered User
 
PKR is offline
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,485
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillBingham2 View Post
Sounds like a time for a read of the manual about 'Sleep Mode' or some such magic. I know with some cases the shutter release gets depressed and will drain the battery. I'm wondering about the heat (yes there might be damage) and why? I don't have anything this new, but with PCs they need air movement of some type, perhaps it was too tight a case?

Love to hear what you find out.

B2 (;->
I don't know the camera. I'm wondering if the video mode button can be disabled in the menu? Running for an extended time in video mode, might heat it up.

I think the camera would have a heat sensor to shut it down before any over heating would damage the circuits. Modern solid state electronics doesn't work well when hot but, rarely causes any damage. When cool, all's back to normal.

I would love to be able to disable any menu items or buttons I don't use. Many problems are caused by accidentally bumping a button.
__________________
The camera is an instrument that teaches people how to see without a camera. Dorothea Lange
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #9
Dogman
Registered User
 
Dogman is offline
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,423
Like pyeh and Darthfeeble, I've also had this happen. More than once. The cameras have never suffered any damage, just drained batteries.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #10
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
 
Rob-F's Avatar
 
Rob-F is offline
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Show Me state
Age: 78
Posts: 5,880
Has it cooled off yet, Joe? If so, is it OK?
__________________
May the light be with you.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #11
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
it does have a time off timer but i selected no to using it. i hate having a camera in hand that can turn itself off. i think when i put it back into the bag i hit the dial and turned it on...never had any camera go that hot before...seems to be fine now.
i've read that the xt20 and the xe3 get a bit warm but mostly connected when using video...something i never use.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-17-2017   #12
Big Ursus
Registered User
 
Big Ursus is offline
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 280
I've put my various Fujis away while they were still on, and when I had programmed them to shut down after being inactive for an hour.

I'd find drained batteries, but never any noticeable heat.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #13
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Ursus View Post
I've put my various Fujis away while they were still on, and when I had programmed them to shut down after being inactive for an hour.

I'd find drained batteries, but never any noticeable heat.
yeah, this is a first for me ...and the heat was very noticeable...it was hot!
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #14
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
 
Darthfeeble's Avatar
 
Darthfeeble is offline
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Logtown, California, USA
Age: 72
Posts: 1,465
Too hot to touch? In that it's brand new, I would send it back to be checked.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #15
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 45
Posts: 19,734
As long as it is working ok, I'd forget about it.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #16
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
i thought i'd bring it in to the shop on saturday and check if they have had any other complaints...also to just make them aware of the timing in case it blows up on me in the near future.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #17
seany65
Registered User
 
seany65 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,043
What a good advert for film cameras. No chance of any of mine getting too hot to handle.
__________________
An ever-growing amount of photo-stuff and a never-growing amount of photo-talent.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #18
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 45
Posts: 19,734
Quote:
Originally Posted by seany65 View Post
What a good advert for film cameras. No chance of any of mine getting too hot to handle.
Hmmm, leave it out in the sun on a 120 degree F day...
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #19
BillBingham2
Registered User
 
BillBingham2's Avatar
 
BillBingham2 is offline
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ames, Iowa, USA
Posts: 5,873
Quote:
Originally Posted by seany65 View Post
What a good advert for film cameras. No chance of any of mine getting too hot to handler.
Your FED 2 might not be happy without a lens cap left on a picnic table.....

B2 (;->
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #20
seany65
Registered User
 
seany65 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,043
@jsrockitt and BillBingham2: If I'm out with any of my film cameras I leave them in the bag unless I'm taking a picture. They wouldn't overheat if I'd left them switched on while in the bag anyway.

Which is what the OP had done with the digital camera as the OP wasn't using it at the time, and it still heated up so:

Film cameras 1 Digital cameras 0.

lol.
__________________
An ever-growing amount of photo-stuff and a never-growing amount of photo-talent.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #21
Contarama
Registered User
 
Contarama is offline
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tulsa
Posts: 1,233
Noted Joe. Thanks.

How long was it in the bag before you found it in this condition?
__________________
Art is the ability to make something...even if it is a big mess...
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #22
jarski
Registered User
 
jarski's Avatar
 
jarski is offline
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,538
sounds like a firmware bug, easily rectified with an update.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #23
rcubed
Canadian
 
rcubed's Avatar
 
rcubed is offline
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Edmonton AB
Posts: 98
I know this feel! I left my M9 in my bag in the 'on' position all day and when I wanted to shoot, the battery was dead from taking a bunch of 30s exposures in my bag.

Getting extremely hot doesnt sound right though.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #24
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by Contarama View Post
Noted Joe. Thanks.

How long was it in the bag before you found it in this condition?
'bout 2 hours...
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #25
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
thinking about it...maybe the battery is bad...i had the original new battery, the 's' model in there.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #26
daveleo
what?
 
daveleo's Avatar
 
daveleo is offline
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: People's Republic of Mass.
Posts: 3,686
Simply set the camera to turn off automatically after 2 minutes. It's in the menu somewhere.
Your camera was on and probably trying to continually autofocus in a dark, insulated bag.
__________________
Dave

  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #27
daveleo
what?
 
daveleo's Avatar
 
daveleo is offline
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: People's Republic of Mass.
Posts: 3,686
Quote:
Originally Posted by seany65 View Post
@jsrockitt and BillBingham2: If I'm out with any of my film cameras I leave them in the bag unless I'm taking a picture. They wouldn't overheat if I'd left them switched on while in the bag anyway.

Which is what the OP had done with the digital camera as the OP wasn't using it at the time, and it still heated up so:

Film cameras 1 Digital cameras 0.

lol.
The camera was on and operating and autofocusing continually in the bag. So, yes, the OP was "using it" as far as the camera is concerned.
__________________
Dave

  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #28
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveleo View Post
Simply set the camera to turn off automatically after 2 minutes. It's in the menu somewhere.
Your camera was on and probably trying to continually autofocus in a dark, insulated bag.
i don't like using that auto turn off...prefer to shut er down on my own...this has been a first time blunder on my part and hopefully the last time as well.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #29
AlwaysOnAuto
Registered User
 
AlwaysOnAuto's Avatar
 
AlwaysOnAuto is offline
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 527
I wouldn't sweat it Joe. My Nex-7 has a message printed on the camera behind the flip down screen that says: The surface of the camera may get warm when the power is on for a long time. This is not a malfunction.

Use the auto off function and you'll be fine. Start up can't be that long that it'd be a problem for you while out shooting. Can it?

I have my auto off set and I still shut it down myself most times.
__________________
IIIa, M3, some lenses + digital
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #30
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysOnAuto View Post
I wouldn't sweat it Joe. My Nex-7 has a message printed on the camera behind the flip down screen that says: The surface of the camera may get warm when the power is on for a long time. This is not a malfunction.

Use the auto off function and you'll be fine. Start up can't be that long that it'd be a problem for you while out shooting. Can it?

I have my auto off set and I still shut it down myself most times.
not really a problem...more of an annoyance...
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #31
Dogman
Registered User
 
Dogman is offline
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,423
Setting it to shut off after a time of not being used won't correct the problem if the problem was the shutter release being pressed inside the bag. That's because the camera is actually in use--that is, making a long exposure.

The camera can get hot with extended use. I've noticed my cameras getting warm in the battery area when shooting a lot of exposures in a short time. If the shutter is open--taking an exposure--for long enough to run down the battery, I'm sure the camera would get really warm. As I said above, it's happened to me more than once but the only result was a dead battery--no damage to the camera ever resulted.

Of course this would only happen if the camera is set to aperture priority.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #32
Canyongazer
Canyongazer
 
Canyongazer's Avatar
 
Canyongazer is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 485
Quote:
Originally Posted by pyeh View Post
Perhaps while it was in the bag it, the shutter release might have been activated and it was trying to take a series of very long exposures. That would heat the sensor up. I've done that with my cameras and drained the battery. Having a soft release exacerbated the problem.

One rainy day in Reims I put my E2, complete with 15mm soft release, under my jacket as we walked down the hill into town.
That night I downloaded One Hundred Sixty Seven (yes, 167) pics of the inside of my jacket. Nicely exposed, but blurry ... it was on Aperture Priority.

The fact we were returning from the Taittinger Champagne cellars may have been a factor.
__________________

Fuji X Pro2
Fuji X E2
Fuji X100s
Panasonic GX1 w/ 20mm F1.7
Nikon D800E


introspection.zenfolio.com
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #33
Archlich
Registered User
 
Archlich is offline
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,257
Random overheating seems to be a uncommon but noted issue among the current generation of Fuji cameras. Might be the reason behind them adding the suffix "S" to the original NP-W126 battery - it has "more resistance" so possibly won't burst into flame easily if it gets too hot.

Be cautious, double check, should be fine.

At least you don't have to worry about the sun burning a hole in the cloth shutter curtain with this one.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-18-2017   #34
Big Ursus
Registered User
 
Big Ursus is offline
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 280
Quote:
Originally Posted by back alley View Post
thinking about it...maybe the battery is bad...i had the original new battery, the 's' model in there.
I've used the battery from my X-T1 in my X-T2, as well as "Watson"off brand batteries - no noticeable heat (so far).
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-19-2017   #35
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 45
Posts: 19,734
Quote:
Originally Posted by seany65 View Post
@jsrockitt and BillBingham2: If I'm out with any of my film cameras I leave them in the bag unless I'm taking a picture. They wouldn't overheat if I'd left them switched on while in the bag anyway.
Jokes, sir, jokes...
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-19-2017   #36
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 45
Posts: 19,734
Quote:
Originally Posted by back alley View Post
i don't like using that auto turn off...prefer to shut er down on my own...this has been a first time blunder on my part and hopefully the last time as well.
Why not? You can still shut it off on your own and this would have prevented your issue. Turning the camera on and off between shots is generally faster than waking it from sleep in my experience.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-19-2017   #37
Dogman
Registered User
 
Dogman is offline
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,423
Unfortunately, I've found it's pretty easy to inadvertently switch on Fuji cameras when replacing or removing from the camera bag...at least it's pretty easy for me to do so.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-19-2017   #38
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsrockit View Post
Why not? You can still shut it off on your own and this would have prevented your issue. Turning the camera on and off between shots is generally faster than waking it from sleep in my experience.
i just like it on when i'm out and about shooting. when i'm out shooting the camera is always on...
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-19-2017   #39
back alley
IMAGES
 
back alley's Avatar
 
back alley is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: true north strong & free
Posts: 49,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
Unfortunately, I've found it's pretty easy to inadvertently switch on Fuji cameras when replacing or removing from the camera bag...at least it's pretty easy for me to do so.
same here...that is why i am always checking the dials.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-19-2017   #40
BillBingham2
Registered User
 
BillBingham2's Avatar
 
BillBingham2 is offline
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ames, Iowa, USA
Posts: 5,873
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
Unfortunately, I've found it's pretty easy to inadvertently switch on Fuji cameras when replacing or removing from the camera bag...at least it's pretty easy for me to do so.
Sounds like you need a new bag.......

Hey Joe....... can you help him with this?

B2 (;->
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 13:53.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.