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Old 06-18-2019   #1
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Calling all Eclipse experts

So it looks like I going to see the eclipse on July 2 in Argentina

Ive read a couple very good posts on eclipse shooting

I have one E-M1.2 body, a 7-14/2.8 and 40-150/2.8

I was thinking about setting up the wide angle and doing a time lapse
The sun will be low in the sky, Ill need to confirm how low but pretty low as the eclipse occurs just before sunset in Buenos Aires

I will be west of there, a town called San Juan Argentina , east of the Andes
( I think)

I could rent or buy a second body - use it with the 40-150, or even obtain a 300/4.0

I have Baader Astro filter polymer on the way

Ive never shot an eclipse before

Whats the crowds experience and suggestions?

I saw the eclipse in Nashville in 2017, it was spectacular

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Old 06-18-2019   #2
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Never tried to shoot a Eclipse personally.

But the wife and I did see the 17’ Eclipse. Made the bandit run down to Kentucky from Michigan in about 8 hours.

We had one of the telescopes set up with the solar projection plate and watched the whole thing via the plate. It was prettY darn impressive.

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Old 06-18-2019   #3
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Be careful.

When I shot the solar eclipse in 2017, the intense sunlight damaged my sensor.

Here are my specifications:
August 21, 2017
1:46 pm Central Daylight Time
Chicago, Illinois
United States of America
41.8781 N / 87.6298 W
Fuji X-Pro1 digital mirrorless camera body with Nikon adapter
Nikon 1000mm f/11 mirror lens mounted on the X-Pro1 body (the angle-of-view is equivalent to 1500mm lens on a 35mm film camera)
ISO 100
f/11 aperture
2-stop neutral density filter
1/4000 second shutter speed
2-second time delayed shutter
Sokkia tripod (wooden)
Wimberley gimbal tripod head


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Old 06-18-2019   #4
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The image size of the sun (or moon, for that matter) is .9 mm diameter for every 100mm of focal length. So, to catch the corona and allow some space around that with a 13X18mm sensor you should probably try to go to no more than 500mm focal length. That will give you a 4.5mm sun image diameter at the sensor plane.
As to damaging sensors, can't give you any advice there. I'd be using film if I wanted to photograph an eclipse.
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Be careful.

When I shot the solar eclipse in 2017, the intense sunlight damaged my sensor.

Nasty. Were you able to get it replaced?
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Nasty. Were you able to get it replaced?
I replaced the Fuji X-Pro1 body with a Fuji X-Pro2 body. I did not bother trying to get it repaired.
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Old 06-18-2019   #7
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I know this isn't what you are aiming for, but this is mine for the partial eclipse in the NE August 2017. The Cheshire Cat.

Monocular (half of a pair of Binoculars) pointed at sun, creates a clean image with no danger to eyes or sensor.

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More seriously, this is the best 2017 eclipse photo I found (not mine). Look at the eclipse with good sky and trees for context. Ignore the political commentary.

No, I don't know anything about the process for getting the eclipse image.

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I was present at the total eclipse of the sun here in Oregon in 2017. I prepared extensively for it and even went to a couple of workshops to ensure I got the best images I could.

First of all, the camera I used was a D700. The lens I used was a 70-300mm. For all of the images I took, I used 195mm as the focal length, f/11 as the aperture and ISO 200. The camera was mounted on a tripod and I used a Nikon MC-36 Intervalometer to capture images every 10 seconds. I had bought a Polarie Star Tracker expecting to use it but I ended up not using it. Since I did not use it, I had to reposition my camera every so often to allow for the rotation of the earth. I used various shutter speeds and the following images will show the effects of the varying shutter speeds on my images.

D700, 195mm, f/11, ISO 200 and shutter speed 1/2000 second



D700, 195mm, f/11, ISO 200 and shutter speed 1/1000 second



D700, 195mm, f/11, ISO 200 and shutter speed 1/250 second



D700, 195mm, f/11, ISO 200 and shutter speed 1/125 second



And finally the diamond ring image, D700, 195mm, f/11 ISO 200 and shutter speed 1/125 second



I hope this helps you to get an idea of the settings that worked for me. Make sure you practice, practice, practice before the actual eclipse so that there are no surprises and you know what to do, especially given the short time you have during the eclipse to capture images. As I recall, I used an app on my phone that was very helpful, especially with the timing of the event. I do not know if there is such an app available for the eclipse you are going to.

If you have any questions, feel free to holler at me. I'll do my best to answer them.

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Thanks Ellen - fantastic images
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Happy to help!

Thanks for the kind words on my eclipse images!

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Lots of useful information on this site.... http://www.mreclipse.com/

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Old 06-19-2019   #13
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Thanks everyone for the info - here’s a summary of current questions

1. Is managing 2 cameras too much to try? One on a tripod w intervalometer set, one handheld

2. Would you handhold a long tele lens/body or shoot everything from a tripod

3. Baader film - reviews say it imparts a blue cast or removes color - any experience- how to best get a natural color background, a sequence of partial and total eclipse and composite them on one final image?

4. Timing - hard to do everything but the web site I read said to remove the filters about 40 secs before totality and shoot Bailey’s beads , chromosphere and corona - I imagine exposure is changing dramatically from filter on to filter off ( partial to totalility) and then on again - how to manage all this other than practice?

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I have no practical tips to speak of. I just captured this reflected partial at my parent's back porch. Good luck!


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1. Is managing 2 cameras too much to try? One on a tripod w intervalometer set, one handheld

Shooting Solar Eclipse by Narsuitus, on Flickr


Solar Eclipse (2012) by Narsuitus, on Flickr

Two cameras on a tripod was not to difficult for me to manage when I shot a partial eclipse on May 20, 2012. I used a film camera on a wooden tripod with a gimbal head (set-up on the right) and a digital compact camera on an aluminum tripod with a pan/tilt head (set-up on the left).

I have never tried shooting an eclipse with a handheld camera.
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3. Baader film - reviews say it imparts a blue cast or removes color - any experience- how to best get a natural color background, a sequence of partial and total eclipse and composite them on one final image?
I have used Baader film but only for black&white images; therefore, I cannot comment on any color casts it may cause.


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If it is your first total eclipse I would strongly advise setting the photo gear aside and enjoying the show. Totality is fleeting and can be a very intense and emotional experience, and fumbling with photo gear could result in disappointment. Better to have good safe glasses and maybe a h-alpha scope for viewing during partial phases. There will be plenty of photos taken by others to enjoy later.

I have only experienced one thus far, and I received similar advice...

Enjoy - I am envious!
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This would be my second - I saw the one in 2917 in Nashville- it was amazing, I thought,why havent I done this before, when is the next one?


Well - the next one is here

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If it is your first total eclipse I would strongly advise setting the photo gear aside and enjoying the show. Totality is fleeting and can be a very intense and emotional experience, and fumbling with photo gear could result in disappointment. Better to have good safe glasses and maybe a h-alpha scope for viewing during partial phases. There will be plenty of photos taken by others to enjoy later.

I have only experienced one thus far, and I received similar advice...

Enjoy - I am envious!
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I traveled to Nebraska last eclipse, had a great time! Since I knew that there would be many, many great pictures available that would be much better than what I could do, I concentrated on all the great street, park, little-town people pictures that would be available, and that most people would be welcoming to a snap-shooter walking around, and they were. I did aim the camera at the sky a couple of times, handheld, and other "dark of night at noon" pictures that are more meaningful to me now.
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A tripod is essential unless going for projected image. Try a few shots of the moon to see what problems handheld throws up...


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Here's a test with my new setup
This was shot with a monopod, manual focus, Olympus OMD E-M1mk2, 300mm/f4 with MC-20 (2x) tele-converter, f8.0 @ 1/2000 - Thousand Oaks Filter

shot in raw - minimal sharpening, converted to jpeg and then downsized by flickr




A few of observations

1. long lens is hard to hand hold, you can slow down and control the jumpiness in the viewfinder - but not comparable to using support
I gave up quickly on handheld and went to a monopod

2. focus - autofocus did not work too well or quickly - I went back to manual - I might try auto again with different settings ( more focus points)

3. not trivial to find the sun through the viewfinder when the filter is in place - I guess pracitice makes perfect

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These are from Bella Vista, Argentina, July 2, 2019 - unprocessed

Shot with an Olympus E-M1.II 300mm/f4 plus MC-20 2x extender




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These are very nice! I would say that your trip to Argentina to capture the total eclipse was well worth it!
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