Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > Cameras / Gear / Photography > Leicas and other Leica Mount Cameras > Leica M Film Cameras

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

Old 05-31-2019   #41
Huss
Registered User
 
Huss is offline
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Venice, CA
Posts: 7,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
It looks huge on images, how it is in real handling? Like walking with it every day on one week trip. I'm using neck strap or keep it in the backpack while I"m working.
It handles better than any other M outside the M7 as it's all about function, not form.
It's bigger, but it's not huge. An M9/M-E is bigger/heavier.

Here is my M5 next to a Minolta CLE (tiny), and the best AE RF camera ever - the Agfa Optima 1535 (even tinier)


  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #42
nickthetasmaniac
Registered User
 
nickthetasmaniac is offline
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,166
I know it's just a bit of pot stirring fun, but the article rings (mostly) true for me.

Pretty... I find the M2 the most elegant Leica from an industrial design perspective. None of the M3's clunky bevels, none of the M4's slanted rewind or plastic bits, none of the M5's shoebox aesthetic, and none of the M6's fiddly battery door or (shock horror) obnoxious red dot. Even the frame counter looks good.

Viewfinder, well I shoot 28mm. End of story.

Price, not a big difference, but not interested in paying more for a camera that is less (for me).

Hipsterdom/not an M3. I'm not convinced by this point. The hipsters are shooting Yashica RF's and AE1's. Only a Leicaphile is going to pick the difference between an M3/2 on the street...

Quote:
Originally Posted by WJJ3 View Post
c'mon, the argument is irrelevant because nobody who buys a Leica is going to have only one Lecia.
Just the one for me. Oddly enough Leica has been my anti-GAS - my M2 is perfect and I've never felt the need for anything else/more. Pentax on the other hand, they just seem to breed in my cupboard...
__________________
Ricoh GRII | Pentax SV, SP-F, MX & LX | Leica M2 | Olympus Pen F + 35RD | Minolta Autocord | Hasselblad 500cm + SWC/m

Instagram @other_strange_creatures
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #43
Ko.Fe.
Kostya Fedot
 
Ko.Fe.'s Avatar
 
Ko.Fe. is offline
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MiltON.ONtario
Posts: 7,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deardorff38 View Post
"We should collect them all" (Huss) On the contrary: We should use them all.

K.F. I found them big & awkward in the hands, totally unlike any other like i had used....some people likes that. It didn't work for me. Kind of like an F4 Nikon after years of using an F with plain prism.
I'm afraid M5 VF is not close enough to the edge. Then it like this my schobel get squeezed or I have to turn head.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #44
CameraQuest
Head Bartender
 
CameraQuest is offline
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: over the hills from Malibu
Posts: 5,697
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
I'm afraid M5 VF is not close enough to the edge. Then it like this my schobel get squeezed or I have to turn head.
my M5 with the MP viewfinder is just fine
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #45
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
 
Rob-F's Avatar
 
Rob-F is offline
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Show Me state
Age: 78
Posts: 5,978
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
I'm afraid M5 VF is not close enough to the edge. Then it like this my schobel get squeezed or I have to turn head.
I had that concern when I first got my M5, but in actual use I find it to be not a problem. The M5 seems to be the only way to get a properly sized 50mm frameline together with a built-in meter.
__________________
May the light be with you.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #46
Huss
Registered User
 
Huss is offline
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Venice, CA
Posts: 7,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
I'm afraid M5 VF is not close enough to the edge. Then it like this my schobel get squeezed or I have to turn head.

No matter what kamera we are discussing, 'you' really need to pick it up in person and see how it feels to see if it would be a good fit.
My beautiful black Kiev 4am? Miserable to use. Gonna sell mine.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #47
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
 
Rob-F's Avatar
 
Rob-F is offline
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Show Me state
Age: 78
Posts: 5,978
Some"Best" Leicas from my personal experience:

M2: 35mm Summilux, Summicron, or Summaron; any 50mm; 90mm Elmarit (or Elmar)
M3: 50mm Noctilux, 75mm Summilux plus external finder; 90mm Summicron; 135mm
M4: same as M2
M5: any 35mm; 50mm f/1.4 or f/2; 90mm Elmarit
M6 with 0.58 finder: Any 28mm or 35mm for eyeglass wearers
M7 or MP with 0.58 finder: see M6 with 0.58 finder

Best small size Leica: The IIIc with Voigtlander lens and external finder

This is just me, now, OK?
__________________
May the light be with you.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #48
Sarcophilus Harrisii
Brett Rogers
 
Sarcophilus Harrisii is offline
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,636
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemermark View Post
VF magnification doesn't impact focusing accuracy. Focusing accuracy is dictated by the distance between the beam splitters -which is the same for all M series.


VF magnification doesn't help you focusing. The RF patch is same size and aligning the split image is again independent of magnification.


But finally we all know the M4 was the best.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik van Straten View Post
No, also the magnification of the image is important here, see the difference of the rangefinders on the Leicas II and III with screw mount.


Erik.
It's not just a matter of focusing ease but system accuracy. Erik is right. The screw mount Leicas have a pathetic physical baselength. The only reason they work so well is because the optical magnification is massive.

You are partly right in that the physical baselength is still important Mark. Theoretically, given the choice, a long physical baselength is the superior way to manufacture a highly accurate rangefinder. Why? Because any mechanical means of driving a beam deflector will have manufacturing tolerances. If you take two different systems, one with a moderate degree of magnification but a long physical baselength; the other, vice-versa, the second will have to made to tighter manufacturing tolerances than the first to achieve the same accuracy. Why? Because by using optical magnification to achieve a large effective baselength—it will unavoidably be magnifying any errors induced by production tolerances of the deflector drive system. A point rarely considered.

The screw mount Leicas get away with it because Leitz obviously achieved a level of manufacturing precision sufficient to preserve the accuracy of their rangefinder installations, despite the substantial magnification used and credit to them for that.

But there is more to rangefinder accuracy than even the right degree of manufacturing precision and a large physical baselength. The ratio of gearing of the system greatly impacts accuracy also. Ie the lower geared the beam deflector drive system is, the more accurate it will be.

So...to produce a rangefinder of not just good, or even excellent, but, superlative precision, you need: a huge effective baselength relying more on physical size, than magnification; excellent precision in manufacture equalling, say Leitz, and; a beam deflector that must rotate through the widest possible arc (Ie gearing). Fortunately one manufacturer produced just such a design and it featured a beam deflector which had to travel four times as far as the screw mount Leica equivalent, which, together with its massive EBL, produced a system of such accuracy it has never been equalled, let alone surpassed.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #49
Solinar
Analog Preferred
 
Solinar's Avatar
 
Solinar is offline
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 65
Posts: 2,526
Read the article. Meh! To each their own.

Out of the three Leicas that I still own my 1932 Leica II is my go to camera. With a 50 Elmar the Model II is essentially a compact 35 mm that takes almost no space in my messenger bag and is lighter than my M2, which I'll usually use with a 50 Summicron.

For many years, I had both an early production M3 and the M2. The M3, in my opinion, has a superior build.
__________________
- Andrew in Austin, Texas -

35mm Gear Bessa R, Leica II, - IIIg, - M2
Just for fun 35mm Gear a Kodak Retina IIa, a Rollei 35 S, plus an Oly 35RD and a Voigtlander Vito II
Modern Medium Format Fuji GW 690III
Vintage MF Folders a Voigtländer Perkeo II and Bessa II, 2 of them - a ZI Mess Ikonta 524/2 - plus an Agfa Super Isolette & a Record III
Digital a D300 and a D700 with some primes - still going over a decade later

"Who spilled the Dektol on the bathroom carpet?"
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #50
Monochrom
Registered User
 
Monochrom's Avatar
 
Monochrom is offline
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,039
4 reasons

1. RF VF prism is better glued and mirror is more resistant if it splits

2. 0.72 mag can take 28mm lenses easily although there are no frames for such length.

3. Frame counter totally brass, easier and more resistant than the glass loup of the m3

4. The quality of manufacture is top notch but solutions inside are better designed after the experience of the m3. For instance there is a sprocket inside that transmit lever force into the mecanism, in the m2 that sprocket has a coil that helps to damp sudden force into the advance mechanism. And if jammed you can simply push the sprocket up and the whoile mech gets freed.

To me the m2 is the best of all M´s. Second is the M5
__________________
M9 Vc 28/3.5 Ltm 5/3.5
Leica IIIF Black Paint
Fuji Gf670
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #51
Mute-on
Registered User
 
Mute-on is offline
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 296
I think I really ought to track down an M3 just so I’ll have a body suitable for use with my 90mm lenses.

For 35 and 50 the M2 really is an absolute delight. However, for 90mm, it is totally impractical for me. Tried a magnifier and keep poking myself in the eye

OTOH, a 0.58 VF with a 35mm lens is almost better than all of them ........
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #52
WJJ3
Registered User
 
WJJ3's Avatar
 
WJJ3 is offline
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hakuba
Posts: 683
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
I sold another two film M and will keep just one, because of the CLA cost.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nickthetasmaniac View Post
Just the one for me. Oddly enough Leica has been my anti-GAS - my M2 is perfect and I've never felt the need for anything else/more. Pentax on the other hand, they just seem to breed in my cupboard...

Fair enough. I guess that's what I get for saying nobody
__________________
Happy Shooting!
~Will

Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #53
WJJ3
Registered User
 
WJJ3's Avatar
 
WJJ3 is offline
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hakuba
Posts: 683
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik van Straten View Post
The image is too big, you can not oversee the whole image at once. When you look at the right, you don't see the left and vice versa. Try it. To see the whole is important for the composition. The composition is everything in 35mm photography.


Erik.

I second this, and this is one of the things I really enjoy about using a rangefinder camera. I like seeing the frameline rectangle projected onto the view with room to spare, and positioning it on the scene where I feel like it. For this reason the M3 is not the ideal camera for shooting a 50mm for me, I think the 0.85 finder is the best for that.



But in practice I use all kinds of lenses on my M3, shoot SLRs, use a variety of external finders and scale focus cameras etc...
__________________
Happy Shooting!
~Will

Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #54
WJJ3
Registered User
 
WJJ3's Avatar
 
WJJ3 is offline
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hakuba
Posts: 683
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mute-on View Post
I think I really ought to track down an M3 just so I’ll have a body suitable for use with my 90mm lenses.

[...]

OTOH, a 0.58 VF with a 35mm lens is almost better than all of them ........

agree wholeheartedly with these two points
__________________
Happy Shooting!
~Will

Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #55
kiemchacsu
Registered User
 
kiemchacsu is offline
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hanoi, Vietnam
Age: 38
Posts: 1,019
Quote:
Originally Posted by giganova View Post
I don't want to start a war, but ...

Wouldn't the M-A be one of the best film M ever built? I don't see much love on this forum for the M-A and I always wondered why. I don't have one, but as soon as Leica announces that they will stop producing it (which they certainly will very soon), I'll buy one. Hard to justify almost $5k for a film camera, I know.
the MA sucks, actually
my friend's MA shows issues after about one year
and he found out that, Leica use the same chassis of the MP for the -new-MA
They just cover the battery compartment with a piece of brass and over the time, it gets oxidised.
IMO Leica did really bad job here and it shows that their film cameras are not sold very well as expected.
__________________
Cheers,
Trung Nguyen

RF
F
photo essays: Hanoi | Hoi An | Ha Giang | Fish Market
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #56
WJJ3
Registered User
 
WJJ3's Avatar
 
WJJ3 is offline
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hakuba
Posts: 683
This is the best way to set up your M3:


MEM on my M3


M3+MEM+ITOOY
__________________
Happy Shooting!
~Will

Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #57
Vincent.G
平和、愛、喜び
 
Vincent.G's Avatar
 
Vincent.G is offline
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 41
Posts: 1,391
I use the Noctilux on my M2 and M7. Never had any issue with focusing accuracy. I agree with Erik that the extra “space” outside 50mm framelines in a 0.72 VF helps in composition (I wear glasses) but this is a matter of personal preference.
__________________
My Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #58
Mute-on
Registered User
 
Mute-on is offline
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by WJJ3 View Post
This is the best way to set up your M3:


MEM on my M3


M3+MEM+ITOOY
Ahhhhhhhhh, yep.

You are killing me, Will
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #59
Huss
Registered User
 
Huss is offline
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Venice, CA
Posts: 7,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiemchacsu View Post
the MA sucks, actually
my friend's MA shows issues after about one year
and he found out that, Leica use the same chasis of the MP for the -new-MA
They just cover the battery compartment with a piece of brass and over the time, it gets oxydised.
IMO Leica did really bad job here and it shows that their film cameras are not sold very well as exepcted.

Can't see the image. Can you repost it? I tried to view it on my iphone and my mac with no luck.

I think it is really obvious that the M-A is the MP w/o the meter, so why would Leica create a new chassis? It's the exact same camera but with no electrics and a better set of frame lines. I have no issues w mine.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #60
kiemchacsu
Registered User
 
kiemchacsu is offline
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hanoi, Vietnam
Age: 38
Posts: 1,019
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huss View Post
Can't see the image. Can you repost it? I tried to view it on my iphone and my mac with no luck.



I think it is really obvious that the M-A is the MP w/o the meter, so why would Leica create a new chassis? It's the exact same camera but with no electrics and a better set of frame lines. I have no issues w mine.


Here you are. I attached one more photo to show how the oxidizing affects the cover.






Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Cheers,
Trung Nguyen

RF
F
photo essays: Hanoi | Hoi An | Ha Giang | Fish Market
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #61
raid
Dad Photographer
 
raid's Avatar
 
raid is offline
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 30,591
I used to mainly use a 50mm Summicron. The M3 was my choice. It is not up to anyone to tell me otherwise. It is a beautiful camera. I later on got an M6. Not an M2.
__________________
- Raid

________________


http://raid.smugmug.com/
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2019   #62
Huss
Registered User
 
Huss is offline
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Venice, CA
Posts: 7,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiemchacsu View Post
Here you are. I attached one more photo to show how the oxidizing affects the cover.






Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hmm. I saw the outline of the battery cover on a few of the early production M-As, and those also had the shutter speed dial from the MP! This was funny because it had the OFF position for the meter, even though the M-A doesnt have a meter.
It seems that Leica improved the build after the early ones as mine has zero issues. And here is a close up of the same area:



Before you suggest poor Leica quality, my brand spankin' new Nikon Z7 just came back from a recall repair... There is a thread on it in the Nikon mirrorless section.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #63
Keith
On leave from Gallifrey
 
Keith's Avatar
 
Keith is offline
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 18,596
The sad fact is that the best M mount RF camera is actually a Zeiss Ikon in my opinion. I can't believe I was stupid enough to sell mine a few years back!
__________________
---------------------------
flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #64
Huss
Registered User
 
Huss is offline
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Venice, CA
Posts: 7,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith View Post
The sad fact is that the best M mount RF camera is actually a Zeiss Ikon in my opinion. I can't believe I was stupid enough to sell mine a few years back!
You know the saying about opinions don't you?

Everyone is entitled to one.


I should have tried one when they were 'cheap', I'm sure I would have liked it.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #65
Keith
On leave from Gallifrey
 
Keith's Avatar
 
Keith is offline
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 18,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huss View Post
You know the saying about opinions don't you?

Everyone is entitled to one.



I should have tried one when they were 'cheap', I'm sure I would have liked it.


Exactly, which is why I was careful to include the words ... "in my opinion!"

No desire to be a victim of the Leica M lynch mob! lol
__________________
---------------------------
flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #66
Ko.Fe.
Kostya Fedot
 
Ko.Fe.'s Avatar
 
Ko.Fe. is offline
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MiltON.ONtario
Posts: 7,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by WJJ3 View Post
This is the best way to set up your M3:



M3+MEM+ITOOY

f2.8 lens this huge? Looks like M5 lens.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #67
Deardorff38
Registered User
 
Deardorff38's Avatar
 
Deardorff38 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 745
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
f2.8 lens this huge? Looks like M5 lens.

K.F. it is a 90mm f 4
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #68
Ko.Fe.
Kostya Fedot
 
Ko.Fe.'s Avatar
 
Ko.Fe. is offline
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MiltON.ONtario
Posts: 7,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deardorff38 View Post
K.F. it is a 90mm f 4
Makes sense now.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #69
Deardorff38
Registered User
 
Deardorff38's Avatar
 
Deardorff38 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 745
maybe..... but an M3 with a 90 leaves me cold... one of the last combos i would use. 90 just doesn't work for me
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #70
muser53
MUSER53
 
muser53 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: People's Republic of Berkeley
Posts: 440
The casualphotophile seems to have forgotten the old adage Different strokes (even double strokes) for different folks.
His "review" recalls one I recently read regarding an Audi A6 where the reviewer's first criticism was the cup holders were too small. Not to be to snarky but how inane can you get?
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #71
nickthetasmaniac
Registered User
 
nickthetasmaniac is offline
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by muser53 View Post
The casualphotophile seems to have forgotten the old adage Different strokes (even double strokes) for different folks.
His "review" recalls one I recently read regarding an Audi A6 where the reviewer's first criticism was the cup holders were too small. Not to be to snarky but how inane can you get?
I don't think the author has forgotten anything. It's probably worth re-reading the Editor's Note right at the start of the article, particularly this bit:

'...I wanted to clarify that this tongue-in-cheek article is more of a silly conversation starter than a true examination into which Leica is best.'

And not to be snarky, but if I spent $100k on a car, I'd be pretty annoying if my cup didn't fit
__________________
Ricoh GRII | Pentax SV, SP-F, MX & LX | Leica M2 | Olympus Pen F + 35RD | Minolta Autocord | Hasselblad 500cm + SWC/m

Instagram @other_strange_creatures
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #72
WJJ3
Registered User
 
WJJ3's Avatar
 
WJJ3 is offline
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hakuba
Posts: 683
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deardorff38 View Post
maybe..... but an M3 with a 90 leaves me cold... one of the last combos i would use. 90 just doesn't work for me

Well for shooting a 90mm on a rangefinder, the M3 must the best camera to use, but it's definitely a challenging lens to use on its own. I usually use mine to compliment my 35mm on a trip.


The last time I went out on a photo walk with just the 90 I got a couple shots I was happy with.


Snow suit sanpo


Seppi
__________________
Happy Shooting!
~Will

Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2019   #73
WJJ3
Registered User
 
WJJ3's Avatar
 
WJJ3 is offline
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hakuba
Posts: 683
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
f2.8 lens this huge? Looks like M5 lens.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
Makes sense now.

I didn't get it Ko Fe. Does the lens look huge, and therefore more suitable for an M5? It does look kinda big in the photo with the ITOOY hood mounted because I shot it up close with my iPhone, and the perspective makes it look bigger than it is. This photo shows the compact size of the MEM better:


MEM on my M3
__________________
Happy Shooting!
~Will

Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2019   #74
Richard G
Registered User
 
Richard G's Avatar
 
Richard G is offline
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: 37,47 S
Posts: 5,142
I like using the SVGOO accessory finder with my 90s. Works great in static situations where the focus needn’t change and the subject is several metres away. Much more pleasing to frame the shot this way.
__________________
Richard
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2019   #75
steveyork
Registered User
 
steveyork is offline
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 697
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemermark View Post
VF magnification doesn't impact focusing accuracy. Focusing accuracy is dictated by the distance between the beam splitters -which is the same for all M series.


VF magnification doesn't help you focusing. The RF patch is same size and aligning the split image is again independent of magnification.


But finally we all know the M4 was the best.
I don't believe this is accurate. All things being equal, the larger the viewfinder mag on a manual camera, the easier to focus. But as a practical matter, they both have sufficient viewfinder magnification for most purposes.

Having owned both an M3 and multiple 0.72 Ms, ranging from M4 to M7, it really is a toss up, and "best" (for you) really depends on your main focal lengths.

"Better" relative to an SLR is probably the 0.72 Ms, because shooting a wide-angle on a rangefinder is really where the advantage lies.

What do I now though. Just sold my last M (an M3).
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2019   #76
oldwino
Registered User
 
oldwino is offline
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 136
So, we are all in agreement? The M2 is the best of the M series?

Now, which is better, the original III or the IIIg?
__________________
wandering the Earth with an Leica I conv, M2, M-D, a bunch of old lenses, and occasionally a Mamiya-Six or Isolette III.

beckmeyerphotographs.format.com
current stuff https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2019   #77
Erik van Straten
Registered User
 
Erik van Straten's Avatar
 
Erik van Straten is offline
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8,442
The IIIg is one of the very best Leicas, but unfortunely the M-lenses cannot be used on the camera.


Erik.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2019   #78
Ko.Fe.
Kostya Fedot
 
Ko.Fe.'s Avatar
 
Ko.Fe. is offline
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MiltON.ONtario
Posts: 7,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldwino View Post
So, we are all in agreement? The M2 is the best of the M series?

Now, which is better, the original III or the IIIg?
From photographer POV, one which has metal VF, RF lenses holder. Those with plastic will have it fall off and lose one of the lens (which are no available as part anymore). Plastic from fifties is not something to relay on in 2019. You could replace it with third party holder, but then lens is gone, it is gone.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2019   #79
Huss
Registered User
 
Huss is offline
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Venice, CA
Posts: 7,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by CameraQuest View Post
click bait

The real purpose is increasing web traffic - which of course it is.
Of course it is click bait, that's what the internet is.

I really like casualphotophile.com
They have great articles which are really well written and deeply researched.
Their writing staff puts other sites to shame.
And occasionally they have fun articles like this one (which they state is tongue in cheek) so it balances well with their other content.

I mean, who else gives an in depth review of stuff like this?:

https://www.casualphotophile.com/201...amera-company/
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2019   #80
bushwick1234
Registered User
 
bushwick1234's Avatar
 
bushwick1234 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by CameraQuest View Post
click bait

The real purpose is increasing web traffic - which of course it is.
Click bait or not I love the contributions so far.
__________________
Kaniel M
"If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera." LH
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 20:43.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.