Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > Cameras / Gear / Photography > Classic Film RangeFinders & Other Classics > FSU Former Soviet Union RF

FSU Former Soviet Union RF This forum is for the Former Soviet Union rangefinder cameras, especially the many and various Fed, Zorki, and Kiev.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

How did these boxes fasten?
Old 04-09-2019   #1
David Hughes
David Hughes
 
David Hughes's Avatar
 
David Hughes is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,519
How did these boxes fasten?

Hi,

The title says it all but I'll add that I have given a lot of thought to it and a piece of string through the holes seems the obvious answer. Here's the box in question:-



String seems obvious (and explains why it is missing) but I wonder if there was some special something to do the trick.

Secondly, the camera and ERC fit nicely but would it have been protected with a layer of corrugated cardboard?

Regards, David
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-09-2019   #2
Mr_Flibble
Registered User
 
Mr_Flibble's Avatar
 
Mr_Flibble is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: The Lowlands
Age: 42
Posts: 4,114
All the images I find on google of these Zorki boxes show only the holes, but no cord or other locking mechanism.

I guess a cord was used as a sort of 'first sale' seal.
__________________
Rick - In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Loaded with film: Clarus MS-35
Latest Toys: Bulk Roll of Kodak Double-X
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-09-2019   #3
Ko.Fe.
Kostya Fedot
 
Ko.Fe.'s Avatar
 
Ko.Fe. is offline
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MiltON.ONtario
Posts: 7,524
If I remember correct, it was string with sealing wax seal.
Our family FED-2 box is the same.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-09-2019   #4
peterm1
Registered User
 
peterm1's Avatar
 
peterm1 is offline
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,656
The string has disappeared because in Soviet Russia it was very difficult to get spaghetti. And very easy to get FEDs and Zorkis.

The old joke about communism from Poland (which I may have recounted here before) was that "Before communism, shops read Butcher on the outside sign and all you found inside was meat. Now under the communists the same shops read meat on the outside sign and all you find inside are butchers."
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-09-2019   #5
randolph45
Registered User
 
randolph45's Avatar
 
randolph45 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sacramento Calif
Posts: 1,096
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterm1 View Post
The string has disappeared because in Soviet Russia it was very difficult to get spaghetti. And very easy to get FEDs and Zorkis.

The old joke about communism from Poland (which I may have recounted here before) was that "Before communism, shops read Butcher on the outside sign and all you found inside was meat. Now under the communists the same shops read meat on the outside sign and all you find inside are butchers."
I LIKE IT
__________________
I finally realized why my photographs are so bad! It's not the equipment
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #6
Dralowid
Michael
 
Dralowid's Avatar
 
Dralowid is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,627
Two brass spit pins through the box and then those fibre washers, as seen on old legal box files...bit of string winds round...maybe?
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #7
Brambling
Registered User
 
Brambling is offline
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Ukraine, Kharkov
Posts: 148
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. View Post
If I remember correct, it was string with sealing wax seal.
Our family FED-2 box is the same.
plastic or lead filling, sealing wax crumbled, therefore it was placed on a plane, did not hang on threads.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #8
David Hughes
David Hughes
 
David Hughes's Avatar
 
David Hughes is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,519
Thanks everyone. Now we've got the answer something completely different will appear on ebay as BNIB. ;-)


Regards, David
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #9
Ko.Fe.
Kostya Fedot
 
Ko.Fe.'s Avatar
 
Ko.Fe. is offline
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MiltON.ONtario
Posts: 7,524
Peter M, your own joke was off the taste. During holodomor people eat roots. And in Leningrad people eat people.
In Russia they have a word for letter M.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #10
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
 
Darthfeeble's Avatar
 
Darthfeeble is offline
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Logtown, California, USA
Age: 73
Posts: 1,510
You could install something like the Billingham closures, large snaps that are available at most hardware stores.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #11
mpaniagua
Registered User
 
mpaniagua's Avatar
 
mpaniagua is offline
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico
Age: 46
Posts: 1,099
Something like this?

  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #12
Dralowid
Michael
 
Dralowid's Avatar
 
Dralowid is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,627
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpaniagua View Post
Something like this?
That's what I meant but to quote the Kiev Survival Site, the string would have been Yak string.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #13
Pentode
Registered User
 
Pentode's Avatar
 
Pentode is offline
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 206
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dralowid View Post
That's what I meant but to quote the Kiev Survival Site, the string would have been Yak string.
Im almost certain youd need bigger string than that to tie up your yak.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #14
David Hughes
David Hughes
 
David Hughes's Avatar
 
David Hughes is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,519
Hi,


I used to use the twiddley/twisty fasteners years and years ago; the picture took me back. But I remember how they failed and the boxes I've seen are too pristine.


At the moment my money's on string and one of those metal crimped seals or similar.


Regards, David
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #15
David Hughes
David Hughes
 
David Hughes's Avatar
 
David Hughes is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,519
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthfeeble View Post
You could install something like the Billingham closures, large snaps that are available at most hardware stores.

Thanks, although I've no idea what they are like; I did a search and now know when all the schools in Billingham close for the holidays...


Regards, David
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #16
Dralowid
Michael
 
Dralowid's Avatar
 
Dralowid is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,627
No yaks in Billingham.

Stationery (or stationary) closures are an art form in themselves, like film we must ensure they survive in the digital age...stand up those with a Gestetner Operators Proficiency Certificate!
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2019   #17
peterm1
Registered User
 
peterm1's Avatar
 
peterm1 is offline
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,656
By the way, my wife who is Russian just told me that "Zorki" means something like, to quote her very rough attempt at explanation: "....to be very good with your eyes and see far away and not miss anything" As rough as that explanation is of what the word "Zorki" connotes I suppose its not an altogether bad name for a camera if you happen to speak Russian.

If you think it is unusual to have such a comparatively lengthy explanation that's because you do not know my wife. I think her motto is never use one word when 350 will suffice and even better if double that number can be contrived to be used. I am not sure if this is a Russian tendency or just that of my wife.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-11-2019   #18
David Hughes
David Hughes
 
David Hughes's Avatar
 
David Hughes is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,519
Hi,


I always thought it meant the same as "остроглазый" but there you are...


Have you thought of getting her to translate "FED and Leica"? There's a pdf of it here:-


http://www.sovietcamera.su/src/Fed_leica.pdf


Regards, David
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-11-2019   #19
Mr_Flibble
Registered User
 
Mr_Flibble's Avatar
 
Mr_Flibble is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: The Lowlands
Age: 42
Posts: 4,114
Doesn't "Laika" translate to "Traveling companion"?

[edit]Ah, no...it's "Barker", derived from "to bark" ....
But I like the idea as "Leica" being a faithful traveling companion
__________________
Rick - In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Loaded with film: Clarus MS-35
Latest Toys: Bulk Roll of Kodak Double-X
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-11-2019   #20
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
 
davidnewtonguitars's Avatar
 
davidnewtonguitars is offline
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Beaumont, TX
Posts: 1,416
Man, I would love to own a string of Yaks. Imagine the kids who would come to ride them!
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-11-2019   #21
David Hughes
David Hughes
 
David Hughes's Avatar
 
David Hughes is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,519
Odd how these things stick in your mind and it took me ages to find it but, FWIW, Google translated "Лейка" as watering can once...


Regards, David
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-15-2019   #22
Elmar Lang
Registered User
 
Elmar Lang's Avatar
 
Elmar Lang is offline
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Northern Italy
Posts: 280
Hello,

through those holes passed a string, held by a lead seal impressed with the factory's final quality control office that accepted each finished/packed camera for delivery to stores.

I've found this discussion, both interesting and hilarious.

Best wishes,

Enzo (E.L.)
__________________
The difference between men and boys, is the price of their toys.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:59.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.