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Old 12-30-2018   #241
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Hi Ronald. Do you mean that using any wide angle lens wider than 35mm will be problematic? I thought that "very wide angle" lenses had such issues, but lenses that were not too wide would be OK.

How does the D3 differ from the D700?
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Hi Ronald. Do you mean that using any wide angle lens wider than 35mm will be problematic? I thought that "very wide angle" lenses had such issues, but lenses that were not too wide would be OK.

How does the D3 differ from the D700?
Raid I do not think you will find problems generally with wider lenses which are retrofocus in design (i.e. designed for SLRs). You are right in saying that this potential problem arises with very wide lenses. But it is only a potential issue and it is related in practice to lenses that have a rear element very close to the sensor which present light rays at an oblique angle to the sensor. However this tends not to happen with lenses designed for SLRs because of the need for clearance of the camera's mirror - they have to be further away from the sensor and hence the light rays are less oblique. When digital SLRs first came on the market circa 2000 NIkon Canon etc made a fuss about the need to upgrade lenses for digital using this as the reason but mostly that was just marketing hype. As I have found out many times given I use all kinds of earlier lenses successfully on these bodies.

I think you said you have a 2.1 cm f4 (?) Nikkor. As you know this requires mirror lock up and a separate accessory viewfinder because of the above issue. I would expect that if used on the D700 with its mirror locked up then you would see artifacts caused by the angle of its light rays to the sensor as this lens which dates to 1960 or thereabouts was of course never intended for digital cameras. On the other hand I regularly use a Nikkor AF 16mm - 35mm f4 which is designed for digital and works perfectly.

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Hi Ronald. Do you mean that using any wide angle lens wider than 35mm will be problematic? I thought that "very wide angle" lenses had such issues, but lenses that were not too wide would be OK.

How does the D3 differ from the D700?
I had a D3 it's a lot bigger and faster more pro built, but I like the picture quality better in the D700.
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Professor Nikon shot itself in the foot with the 700 because basically what they did was use the same engine from the top shelf D3 model and installed it into the 700 block. At a cheaper mark and maybe better ergonomics the 700 cannabilized D3 sales. They did something similar with the D4 and Df. Stupid if you ask me...why not just make the camera everyone wants to begin with? Alas I'm simple-minded like that.
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Professor Nikon shot itself in the foot with the 700 because basically what they did was use the same engine from the top shelf D3 model and installed it into the 700 block. At a cheaper mark and maybe better ergonomics the 700 cannabilized D3 sales. They did something similar with the D4 and Df. Stupid if you ask me...why not just make the camera everyone wants to begin with? Alas I'm simple-minded like that.
It was my good luck to finally buy a DSLR and then my choice being the D700.
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I had a D3 it's a lot bigger and faster more pro built, but I like the picture quality better in the D700.
I am happy so far with my D700. It works like a charm.
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Raid I do not think you will find problems generally with wider lenses which are retrofocus in design (i.e. designed for SLRs). You are right in saying that this potential problem arises with very wide lenses. But it is only a potential issue and it is related in practice to lenses that have a rear element very close to the sensor which present light rays at an oblique angle to the sensor. However this tends not to happen with lenses designed for SLRs because of the need for clearance of the camera's mirror - they have to be further away from the sensor and hence the light rays are less oblique. When digital SLRs first came on the market circa 2000 NIkon Canon etc made a fuss about the need to upgrade lenses for digital using this as the reason but mostly that was just marketing hype. As I have found out many times given I use all kinds of earlier lenses successfully on these bodies.

I think you said you have a 2.1 cm f4 (?) Nikkor. As you know this requires mirror lock up and a separate accessory viewfinder because of the above issue. I would expect that if used on the D700 with its mirror locked up then you would see artifacts caused by the angle of its light rays to the sensor as this lens which dates to 1960 or thereabouts was of course never intended for digital cameras. On the other hand I regularly use a Nikkor AF 16mm - 35mm f4 which is designed for digital and works perfectly.

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Hi Peter. I tried using the 16mm Hologon on my M9, and it is a rough ride there. I can get B&W images out that work well for some situations, but colors are off.
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Hi Peter. I tried using the 16mm Hologon on my M9, and it is a rough ride there. I can get B&W images out that work well for some situations, but colors are off.
Yes that does not surprise me Raid. The 16mm has a very deep rear element. The first version 15mm f4.5 Voigtlander Super-Wide Heliar has the same issue I am given to understand. They redesigned it for digital sensors and now the new version is apparently OK.
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I used today my Tamron 35-80 SP with the D700 for some birds photography.

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Raid, have you been fully converted to the evil SLR cult, or do you still shoot with other cameras?
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I used the Nikon DSLR for a week or so, and I switched back to RF cameras.
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Great camera -- a DSLR classic. Enjoy. And enjoy going down the Nikkor rabbit hole. I know I sure did.
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My first FF DSLR.
I had a split circle focusing screen put in and the numerous Nikkor MF lenses I had at the time (8-180mm) were a joy to use, though my favorite was the Voigtländer 2,5/125. That was an extraordinary hunk of glass. Sold most of the kit and kaboodle for Leica RF kit. Kept the Leitaxed R lenses, though. and recently undid them for an R9 I unexpectedly stumbled upon...and the 16/3.5 Fisheye + the NOCT Nikkor for my FM2-T.

My one and only issue with the D700 was its limited cropping with the 12MP image.

I do recommend the Zeiss ZF (not ZF.2) lenses. The 21 and 35 can be bought for a song. These were by far superior to Nikkor AF & MF lenses.
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Mine is dead and gone unfortunately but I still do have my D4 which I will keep ... A because I like the way Nikon DSLRs work in spite of the fairly complicated menu system and B because the sensor in the D4 is even better than the one in the D700. And although the D4 is a beast it actually has better ergonomics than the D700.
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I paid $400 for my D700, and I am using my old Nikkor lens on it. It is a powerful camera indeed.
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I took this photo last week with the D700 and the Nikkor 50/1.4.

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