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Old 03-01-2019   #41
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There’s actually a K28/f2 for sale on Pentax forums at the moment. Only ~700euro...
Personally, I wouldn't put such a big lens on a such a small camera just to gain a stop. I would prefer to push my film one stop instead.
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Personally, I wouldn't put such a big lens on a such a small camera just to gain a stop. I would prefer to push my film one stop instead.
Agreed I want the set up to remain compact. I already have big fast lenses on my other bigger cameras.
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This Kiron 28mm f2 (made by Kino optics, which produced some of the original Vivitar Series 1 optics), should be one heck of a 28mm f2 lens for any Pentax SLR..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kiron-28mm-...3AQb:rk:2:pf:0
I saw that but then became aware of the size and sticking aperture blades on some of them.
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Having had both, they both are amazing cameras but i kept the Olympus.[/quote]

I've used both and they are both excellent. I do prefer the OM-1 because it is a bit quieter and has less vibration.
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I saw that but then became aware of the size and sticking aperture blades on some of them.
I have only the one data point, but my smc-m 28 2.8 also developed stickiness in the aperture mechanism that made it slow to stop down in cold weather. That, and a bit of haze somewhere inaccessible. But they're cheap enough to take a gamble.
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Having had both, they both are amazing cameras but i kept the Olympus.
I've used both and they are both excellent. I do prefer the OM-1 because it is a bit quieter and has less vibration.[/quote]


Not to worry, the vibration and noise occurs when the mirror comes back down, after the exposure. If there is much earlier, it needs new mirror foam. The momentum of the mirror going up can be felt slightly, as the camera is fairly light, but I doubt it's significant when held securely.
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Huss, i know you mentioned the 24/28mm focal length but the only reason why i kept the Pentax ME is the Pentax-M 35 f/2.8 which is a fantastic lens and very compact.






Here's a picture taken with it.


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I haven’t seen a camera that spiffy except when it came new outta the box! Is that a NOS MX you found in a storeroom somewhere?

You’re right, the chrome one is a jewel!

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That was just about the nicest chrome MX that I've ever run across.
I sold it shortly after that photo was taken.
Here's a photo of it that I took for the listing.




A few years after that I found an equally nice black copy for a friend that wanted a nice one. He ended up not liking the LED meter and so I helped him sell it.

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Huss, i know you mentioned the 24/28mm focal length but the only reason why i kept the Pentax ME is the Pentax-M 35 f/2.8 which is a fantastic lens and very compact.






Here's a picture taken with it.


nice! thing is the lens I already have is a 40mm so 35 is too close to
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Interesting, I was wondering when the 40mm would be mentioned. And it's been on show since the first post...


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Nice black MX Huss. They are great cameras.
When I was first getting into photography, I inherited my grandfather's black MX. I still have it and use it every now and then.

Here it is next to my 67


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Funny pic Colton! I have something similar to that w my Agfa Optima on top of my Fuji GW690iii
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The SMC Pentax-M 28/3.5 lens is the true sleeper.

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The winning suggestion! One is on its way to me.

I’m looking forward to having the MX around my neck, the 28 in one coat pocket, and a bunch o film in the other.
This will be fun!
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I do have an MX with a 40mm adopted from a RFF giveaway, developed my negs from it but I still have to print or scan those. Prefer much more the huge negs of the Fuji 690 to work in the darkroom.
I do have to post results here as a courtesy from getting it. Still has had a roll of old TriX I was given at the camera club.

This one came with a metal generic grip that really improves handling. Coat pocket fitting indeed! The 40mm is tiny but makes it a nice package.


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hmmm interesting. can u post a pic of that grip?
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hmmm interesting. can u post a pic of that grip?
Camera was courtesy if ruby.monkey , more thanks again! Things like that make this forum great.
I thought it would make a good student circle camera when/if the opportunity arises.




Quick tabletop setup, as you can see the grip bottom plate does add about 5mm to the camera height but otherwise does not interfere, well, only for the self timer.
Only info on the grip is "SJF A2" embossed on a screw.

All of this is coat pocketable, great set up. This particular camera has a non-functioning meter, which is fine using a handheld one and sunny 16



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nice! i have a similar grip like that on my Nikon F2.
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I have that same grip. Unfortunately it's difficult for my average to large fingers
to operate the DOF preview (push in on self-timer lever) with it attached.

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I also have two black body MX's with the Winders attached...I bought them both brand new back in the early 80's...I bought a chrome MX for our daughter many years ago...she doesn't use it and it's currently hanging out in her former bedroom...I dare not sell because as soon as someone would buy it she'd ask for it...I have no plans to sell the black ones either...great little cameras...I ran a lot of B&W film through both...

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The MX was my favourite camera, out of all my camers. Lost it off the back of my motorbike (long story).
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The Pentax Winder MX is a good choice, if you can find one in good working condition.
Make sure auxiliary shutter release activates meter as designed
and battery cover plastic screw fastener is not stripped.

The camera handles very nicely with the winder attached.
It's rated at 2 fps but every one I owned was closer to 3 fps.

SMC Pentax-M 35/2.8 and SMC Pentax A 35/2.8 lenses are good,
however helical grease liquifies and deposits on diaphragm blades,
so anticipate cleaning sticky diaphragm every few years on these.

I recommend instead the excellent SMC Pentax (K) 35/3.5 lens.

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I had a Super ME and thought that was pretty small as SLR go. How does the Olympus OM 1/2/... compare to the MX sizewise?
The MX definitely feels like a smaller Spotmatic, and it feels more robust than an OM1 and to me the viewfinder is better. The OM1 reminds me of the Leica M3 (obviously in SLR form) I suppose each to his own.
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I also have two black body MX's with the Winders attached...I bought them both brand new back in the early 80's...I bought a chrome MX for our daughter many years ago...she doesn't use it and it's currently hanging out in her former bedroom...I dare not sell because as soon as someone would buy it she'd ask for it...I have no plans to sell the black ones either...great little cameras...I ran a lot of B&W film through both...

Very nice! I've been looking into those winders but they are very hard to find. Plenty out there for the ME series, but not the MX.
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Huss...
I have a Pentax ME SE with the ME Winder II on it...that winder and the MX winder look very similar but the ME winder is a better design, especially in the battery department...one of my winders has a stripped battery door but it stays in place...
You're right that you don't find too many of the MX Winders for sale...and when you do most are junk...
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I have a Pentax ME SE with the ME Winder II on it...that winder and the MX winder look very similar but the ME winder is a better design, especially in the battery department...one of my winders has a stripped battery door but it stays in place...
You're right that you don't find too many of the MX Winders for sale...and when you do most are junk...
Sam, I don't the ME Winder II works with the MX? Only with the electronic shutter Pentaxes, no?
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The MX was my first SLR (with a very sharp Pentax M 50mm F/1.7). I have fond memories of it, but I have since completely stopped shooting 35mm film. My Pentax 6x7 with a TTL finder is more or less the same camera, only an awful lot bigger, heavier and noisier...

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Personally, I wouldn't put such a big lens on a such a small camera just to gain a stop. I would prefer to push my film one stop instead.
Honestly I don’t think anyone buys the K28/f2 just to gain a stop. It’s considered one of the all time classic Pentax lenses.
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I think its younger sibling - the ME is smaller.





Between the OM-1 and the MX, the MX is smaller





Having had both, they both are amazing cameras but i kept the Olympus.
I went the other way, kept the MX. But I gave the OM to a friend I value.
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Fell in love with these rigs 2 different times ( I wanted to love them) but the quality control just wasn't up to Nikon FE/FM level, which I consider the standard bearer of that era (late seventies and eighties). That being said if you find one in very good condition, you will have a ball.

Interesting experience. Personally I have owned three MX's and also have several friends who shoot with them, and none have had any issues (except a failed light meter, which is probably to be expected on a camera of this age...).




Anyway, here's the MX and its big brother, the LX.




And alongside my M2.

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Interesting experience. Personally I have owned three MX's and also have several friends who shoot with them, and none have had any issues (except a failed light meter, which is probably to be expected on a camera of this age...).




Anyway, here's the MX and its big brother, the LX.




And alongside my M2.

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So today I was checking out the monthly flea market at Pasadena City College. I pretty much go there to buy records, see if anyone has any photography stuff, and just have fun.
Today there was hardly any photo gear, but on one random table I saw one of those metal briefcase style camera cases, the ones with the foam cut outs to fit gear.
Walking closer I saw the words Pentax on the camera. It was a full ME Super (black!) set with motor winder. The camera didn't turn on even though the batteries were there (but they may have been dead). The winder's battery chamber had the remnants of a massive leak. But inside the metal hood of a tele lens was this!



Like new condition, and I just happened to have my MX with me. Meant to be, plus the dood sold it to me super cheap. Of course I already ordered the 28 3.5...

This lens is tiny. With this system RF cameras do not have a size advantage if you pick the right lenses. Anyway, finished a roll of film, will see tomorrow how all this stuff works.
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Nice, I always meant to pick up that lens to go with that camera. I'm sure it would be a good combo.

A few from that MX and 40mm....





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Sam, I don't the ME Winder II works with the MX? Only with the electronic shutter Pentaxes, no?



Huss,


The Pentax Winder ME II is for Pentax ME Super and ME. Also fits the ME-F, MG, MV-1, Super A, SuperProgram, Program A, Program Plus, P5 and P50.

The coupling is very different between the MX and ME bodies, the electric connectors and mounting screws are in similar if not exact positions.
The finish is also slightly different...I prefer the finish on the ME Winder.
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Thanks Sam.

If anyone is interested, this company makes grips out of nylon (I assume) for all sorts of cameras in a bunch of different colours. I just ordered one for the MX.

https://www.cameradactyl.com/buttergrip

It was $25 including shipping, vs the $75 for the grip that I bought a while back for my F2 (and made by the same company for the MX in Prest400's pic above)
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I have the same lens but the Pentax-A version...probably got it at a thrift shop and paid very little for it...I'm using it on the Sony a6000...it is a small lens.
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If anyone is interested, this company makes grips out of nylon (I assume) for all sorts of cameras in a bunch of different colours. I just ordered one for the MX.

https://www.cameradactyl.com/buttergrip

It was $25 including shipping, vs the $75 for the grip that I bought a while back for my F2 (and made by the same company for the MX in Prest400's pic above)
The grip - I did not order this colour!

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My buttergrip (!) showed up. Very nice in black, super light weight but very solid feeling as it has been carved from a solid piece of nylon type material. Very comfortable to handle, much more so than the $75 grip I bought for my Nikon F2 (and shown above on Prest's MX)



Great value at $21! And my MX just became nicer.
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Oh yeah, that 28mm 3.5 in the pic above? It's going back to the seller in Japan. The mint/like new condition failed to mention a bunch of scratches on the rear element. Even though the seller claimed no scratches. Good thing I found the 28mm 2.8 at the flea market!
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The SMC Pentax-M 28/3.5 lens is the true sleeper.
Is there much, if any, difference optically between this and the Takumar SMC 28mm f3.5 lens? I have a Pentax MX and a Pentax-K adaptor to allow the Tak and other M42 lenses to fit. Haven't shot off any film with this lens yet though.
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Is there much, if any, difference optically between this and the Takumar SMC 28mm f3.5 lens? I have a Pentax MX and a Pentax-K adaptor to allow the Tak and other M42 lenses to fit. Haven't shot off any film with this lens yet though.
The optical construction of the M28/f3.5 (6 elements/6 groups) is different to both versions of the Takumar 28/f3.5 (7 elements/6 groups and then 7/7*). The first version of the Tak is also much bigger (58mm filter vs 49mm). None of these have a particularly good reputation (by Pentax standards), but I can't comment on image quality as I haven't used them.

The K28/f3.5, which came between the Taks and M and has a stellar reputation (one of the highest rated lenses on Pentax Forums) has a different construction again - 8 elements/7 groups. To be honest, I'm curious why they went to so much effort with this lens... These can still be found quite cheap.

Pentax Forums has optical diagrams for all of them:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensrev...28mm-F3.5.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensrev...F3.5-Lens.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensrev...F3.5-Lens.html

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