darkroom timers for developing film
Old 06-29-2017   #1
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darkroom timers for developing film

i've been using the massive devchart app on my iphone to time film development, but it's always been a little annoying to make sure it doesn't get wet and that i can't just mount it to the wall. i have a gralab in my darkroom, but i should get another one for the kitchen where i develop film.

what's your favorite darkroom timer? does anyone have a paterson or adox timer?
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Old 06-29-2017   #2
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A small ziplock bag stops it getting wet, and the touchscreen still works through it. No need for more equipment.
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Old 06-29-2017   #3
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I have an old waterproof android with suitable apps. I only use it as a timer, never as a phone.
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Old 06-29-2017   #4
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I use one of these - it was sold under many brand names. Mine's Jessops.

https://www.atp-instrumentation.co.u...nch-timer.html
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What could be better - and more classic - than the iconic Gralab 300?



It's reliable, simple to use, and easy to see from across the room.

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Old 06-30-2017   #6
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We used the Gralab 300 in high school and I have one now but haven't used it for developing film...
I use the Paterson Triple Timer for film and print developing...battery operated so I can take it anywhere without the need or bother of a power cord...if you happen not to be around when the buzzer goes off the timer will start to count Up therefore you know how long you went over...
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OMG! I use this exact same timer! Its not labeled Paterson though. Mine is clean blank black. The remainder of markings, buttons, etc. are the *exact* same timer.
I like it. Has been my film dev timer for some years now. Can[t remember where I got it, but I suspect from one of my genetics/molecular labs.

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We used the Gralab 300 in high school and I have one now but haven't used it for developing film...
I use the Paterson Triple Timer for film and print developing...battery operated so I can take it anywhere without the need or bother of a power cord...if you happen not to be around when the buzzer goes off the timer will start to count Up therefore you know how long you went over...
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I bought a Paterson Triple Timer. Though it was brand new and
never used buttons were wonky. Back to the old reliable Gralab!

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I just use kitchen triple timers, usually a cheaper alternative to "darkroom" timers.

https://www.amazon.com/Samshow-Chann...t_sims?ie=UTF8
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When I learned, we used a small timer for exposing paper and a Graylab for film development. Now I have a Chromegatrol for my Omega D6, but I still have a Graylab for film.
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Old 06-30-2017   #11
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The Gralab 300 is hard to beat. I have one I've used close to fifty years and recently picked up a new one in an antique store for $35. My old one works as good as new but I've done collodion plates with it and gotten silver nitrate on part of the face and some of the numbers are hard to read now due to stain. But, it still works.

I find analog dials are easier to read than digital readouts at a glance.

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The Gralab 300 is hard to beat.
Ain't it the truth. I have two, one at either end of the darkroom sink. I "upgraded" to the plastic models, after having rust from one of the old ones contaminate some paper (spots from iron in the toning) some ten years ago. They will outlast me.
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I just use kitchen triple timers, usually a cheaper alternative to "darkroom" timers.

https://www.amazon.com/Samshow-Chann...t_sims?ie=UTF8
good idea to use a kitchen triple timer. i'm going to be using it in the kitchen anyway!

as much as i love the gralab, it's too big to leave in the kitchen, and i don't want to be moving it around constantly.
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Old 06-30-2017   #14
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The Gralab is dedicated, classic and built for the task.
Probably available on the Bay for about the same as a new kitchen timer.

best choice...unless you already OWN a cherished kitchen timer with which you have bonded over the years...
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Old 06-30-2017   #15
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If you have a micro-wave oven in your kitchen perhaps it has a way to use it as a timer.

Mine has a button featuring a "kitchen timer" where I can set it and it will count down without the oven running.

You can also type "timer" in google search and a timer comes up.

My iPad has a timer as well.
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Old 07-01-2017   #16
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I have a Gralab 300 and use it about 50-50 with an iPad/iPhone/Apple Watch timer.

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I like the Gralab because I can quickly add 3 minutes once the film is in the fix. No fiddly buttons. And I really find the interface of changing time on the iPhone a slow PITA. That scrolly interface is quite annoying. A simple movement of the minute hand on the Gralab, that takes two seconds, and I'm agitating.

Siri does make starting a timer easier, this latest phone I can just say "Hey Siri, start a timer for three minutes" if the music isn't too loud. I time my washes of film and prints with the phone. i start the timer, wash my hands and make a cup of coffee and don't forget the stuff in the wash.
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Old 07-01-2017   #18
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I started out with a digital kitchen timer some months back. Works fine. However... if you wear gloves during development - which I do - wet gloved fingers and digital timer buttons on an LCD screen or whatever ...simply don't work all that well. So I boughta Gralab timer off eBay for about $35... (about the same cost as the digital cooking time) and I'll say that this works much better.
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Old 07-01-2017   #19
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i do wear nitrile gloves for color. why would they interfere with using the buttons on a digital timer? they have plenty of grip even when wet, and they're skin tight...
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Inexpensive electronic timers typically don't have very responsive buttons.
Because of this operation may be unpredictable and frustrating.
That's exactly why I returned the Paterson Triple Timer.

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Old 10-15-2017   #21
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My Gralab 300 lives in the kitchen. My married daughters have gotten Gralab 300s for their kitchens. Best all around timer. 46 years old and running better than I am.
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Old 10-16-2017   #22
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Old 10-16-2017   #23
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Shelf on the wall has Gra Lab with light proof cover and cut corner for off/on switch.

Other side is long skinny electronic that counts up/down, lights turn off, audible signal for 30 sec option off/on. I use for prints and 4x5 film in open tanks, 6 step E6 process.

there is a foot switch which I keep next to developing tray.
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Do the digital timers have an audible signal to tell you when to agitate? If not, they would require too much careful checking of the display, whereas a big analog display is much easier to monitor (in my opinion). Always liked the graylab for that reason, and because it's easy to reset/add time as mentioned above.
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Gralab in the closet unused since I've been using my iPhone. iPhone 7 now.
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In Canada it is not about favorite, but one you could find and they don't want arm and leg for it...



I think, last time I dropped iPhone into the toilet, I was trying to use it as the timer... Likely it has Otterbox case on it.
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I had a Gralab in my darkroom for many years when I was printing. I loved it.

But now all I do is develop film, scan, and print digitally. I have been quite satisfied with a $4.95 digital kitchen timer for the last 15 years. Now I did drop one many years ago and had to replace it but that was only another $4.95. I can easily reset it which is no problem since only the developer time is critical. I have no problems watching it to agitate once a minute.

And I can simply put it back on the shelf when I am not using it. I do confess to try to find simpler and cheaper ways that work just as well. But then I am one who spends his money on airline tickets to places to use my existing cameras instead of buying new gear.
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Old 10-16-2017   #28
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A Time O Lite like the one below can be picked up for $10 plus shipping on eBay pretty much anytime. They do everything I need one to do. Has an illuminated dial, turns the enlarger and the safelight on and off, all that. I don't use a timer anymore though. Bought a cheapo metronome, then did away w/ it as well and just count the seconds down myself. Nothing I print is that hypercritical, and I am very good at counting.

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Old 10-16-2017   #29
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See post 23. Gralab older model has audible signals and you can kill display lights
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With C41 I'm not too far from my iPhone 7. Gotta watch the timer for agitation time. I try to wash my containers between agitation at :40 and :10. 3.5 for dev and 6.5 for Blix. 3 minute rinse and that's about it.

I used to use the Gralab when I first started with B&W but when I stopped B&W and started color ( c41 ) I found the iPhone does just fine.

Not sure how you could drop the phone in the toilet

My phone/timer is near the sink with dev tank and chems.
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i use a joby grip tight stand to hang my mobile at the mirror. don't spread the legs, but use them as a hook that goes behind the upper border of the mirror.
maybe not comfortable (it hangs rather high), but safe from splashes.
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Another vote for the Gralab 300. When I used to run the darkroom at work (now long gone) we had 3 of them linked together. Developer, stop, and fixer each had their own. When one was done the next would start. If I remember correctly we plugged the 2nd and 3rd into the safelight outlet on the previous timer. Worked great.
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Old 07-19-2018   #33
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I am using both the Paterson Triple Timer (mostly for paper developing) and the ADOX Lab Timer (mostly for BW and color film processing).
https://www.fotoimpex.com/darkroom/a...ers-large.html

Both are very good, and I can highly recommed both.
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I “loaned” my Gralab 300 to my brother in law almost 20 years ago because I wasn’t developing at home anymore. When I started up again about a year ago I decided he had more claim to it than I did and didn’t ask for it back.

My plan was to use the Develop! app on my iPhone until another used Gralab turned up, but I’ve been pretty happy just using the phone. I’m just really careful not to get it wet.
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Old 07-19-2018   #35
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For all of the home darkrooms I've had over the years, I've used either a digital kitchen timer or a wristwatch with a seconds hand. You don't need anything elaborate to time film developing steps.
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