Favourite "Cheap" 35mm Colour Negative Film?
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Favourite "Cheap" 35mm Colour Negative Film?

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Next month I'm going abroad with a couple of compacts (mainly because I'm too much of a wimp to take my Leica along) and was wondering what your favourite Colour Negative Film is. I am going to the Caribbean (Cuba) so needless to say, I want to capture all of the beautiful colours the Caribbean has to offer. As much as I would love to take 20 rolls of Velvia or Ektar along, it just isn't economically feasible (aka I'm cheap).

The only "cheap" colour negative stock I've ever used has been Kodak Gold 200 and I absolutely loved it.

I'm essentially looking for suggestions and was wondering if any of you folks have a favourite? Any responses are greatly appreciated
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Old 03-03-2017   #2
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Take that Kodak Gold 200 with Rollei 35 and a small flash unit. It should be glorious!!!
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Take that Kodak Gold 200 with Rollei 35 and a small flash unit. It should be glorious!!!
Thanks for the advice! I almost bought a Rollei Flash with the camera itself but I was weirded out by either A) having the flash on bottom or B) holding the camera upside down.

Any recommendations for a small flash unit?
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^^ "and I absolutely loved it " , pretty well eliminates anything else I'd say . Peter
Hey Peter! Thanks for the advice
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Thanks for the advice! I almost bought a Rollei Flash with the camera itself but I was weirded out by either A) having the flash on bottom or B) holding the camera upside down.

Any recommendations for a small flash unit?
You should have bought that Rollei flash with the camera, but any small flash will do. Of course, you can use large flash as well, if you own one, but it will defeat the purpose of carrying a small camera.

I own and use quite a lot of different cameras, from Univex Mercury CX half-frame 35mm camera to Korona VI 5x7, and I have to say that using Rollei 35 upside down with flash on top of it is not that quirky. I'd take it any day vs any point-and-shoot AF camera(I don't like th m at all). Voigtlander Prominent or any Alpa are a lot less convenient to use.
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I'vve yet to try Gold 200 because its availability is spottier than other films (Fuji) in Spain.
Have shot on Superia 200 with quite nice results. Also, Garden shed 1 year expired c200 given by a friend got me through summer with decent results (but has a grainy 1980s palette). More recently trying the Lomo CN films, which are Kodak film but seemingly a consumer gold of an older generation. Just recently sent out this batch to lab and still don't have the results.

As you mention Velvia, try to squeeze a bit of slide film for variety. Agfa CT precisa is Provia 100F rebranded and cheaper, but as everything, it depends of the retailer.

The suggestion of flash is interesting. I'd like to carry medium format in my future big trip and was actually reading about flash usage, even if just for fill because tropical light is harsh.

No Leica? I would take the M3 as a main camera. Just because it's so classic and RF focusing. Then the R35 is easy to squeeze
I don't know if you will be a lot around beaches, a "not to worry much" carmera to have around there is useful.
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Kodak Pro Image 100 might be worth a look. I just started my first roll of it today in my Contax so can't speak from personal experience yet, but I've seen some great colour from it. Michael's series from Burma was shot on some of that a couple of years or so ago, and I loved it.
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Brett (Sarcophilus Harrison) is spot on. Kodak Pro Image 100 is what I have been using for the past 8/9 years and I absolutely love it.

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As much as I would love to take 20 rolls of Velvia or Ektar along, it just isn't economically feasible (aka I'm cheap).
Have a look at AgfaPhoto CT Precisa 100 (its converted from Provia 100F production). Excellent reversal film, and in some countries it is very cheap.

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The only "cheap" colour negative stock I've ever used has been Kodak Gold 200 and I absolutely loved it.
I prefer Fujifilm Superia 200 to Gold 200, because
- the Fuji has significantly finer grain
- is sharper
- has higher resolution
- has better green and blue color rendition (Gold 200 has often a Cyan cast in its blues).
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Whatever happens to be on sale and then I buy a lot. I still have quite a bit of Fuji 200 color film from my last batch buy as well as some Kodak Gold 100 in the freezer from the previous one.

They are all pretty much the same with small differences that are not obvious until you look for them.

Kodak Gold 100 seems to have the most natural color palette but is no longer available. Fuji 200 has a slight tendency to bring out the greens a bit more. Kodak Ultramax 400 has very high contrast to my eye and I have never quite developed the taste for it but my wife loves it.

But, like I said, not huge differences so go for whatever you can get your hands on that is inexpensive.

Personally, if I were the one going on vacation, I would buy some Kodak Portra 400. A bit more expensive but a terrific film that is very flexible. I have come back with really good exposures from EI200 all the way through EI1600. Ektar is another terrific color film that is a little more expensive but not as flexible.
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Old 03-04-2017   #14
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A thought:
"invest" two tenths of one per cent of the cost of the trip in order to upgrade to the film you want for this important trip.

Eschew one or two Cuba Libras.

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Whatever happens to be on sale and then I buy a lot. I still have quite a bit of Fuji 200 color film from my last batch buy as well as some Kodak Gold 100 in the freezer from the previous one.

They are all pretty much the same with small differences that are not obvious until you look for them..
I'm with the dood in the hat. They are all good, and poor results seem to be a case of either user error or processing error.

Someone mentioned Fuji C200 has an 80's grainy palate. The C200 thread here begs to differ.
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Hey guys! I popped into a few local drugstores today and other than Kodak Gold 200 and 400, I found some Fuji Superia 400. I found a pack of three for 24.99 CAD which seemed pretty expensive until I realized that I've been paying $11 for a single roll of HP5 the last 5 or so years.

My local photo store has had Agfa Vista Plus stocked for quite awhile but at $13 CAD a roll, it seemed pretty pricey to me. Anybody have any experience with it?

Nobody local carries professional colour anymore (Ektar, Portra, Velvia, etc etc) so I have to order that stuff online (usually B&H). By the time I factor in Duty and shipping, the Agfa may be considered "cheap".
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Old 03-04-2017   #17
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My favorite color negative film is anything 35mm or 120 format and old, expired for at least a dozen years. Each one of the films like this I've used has been a unique experience to process and scan, with color renderings that are delightfully 'off', contrast and fog that is almost literally unreproducible.

A friend gave me two/three more rolls of this to work with. Time to get out the M4-2 again. :-)

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Kodak Pro Image 100 might be worth a look.
I second this. I shot a roll through a Mju-II and was really pleased with the results.

As far as my favorite cheap go-to film, Fujifilm Superia 200 or 400.
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Old 03-04-2017   #19
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I like Agfa Vista Plus.
$3.99 for a roll of 36 and decent results.
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Fuji C200 provides nice results. Shot with a Zeiss Ikon Contaflex Super BC, Unicolor self-developed.
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My local photo store has had Agfa Vista Plus stocked for quite awhile but at $13 CAD a roll, it seemed pretty pricey to me.
Something doesn't look right with this. Here, in the UK, Poundland (our equivalent of a Dollar Store) sells a 24-roll of Agfa Vista Plus 200 for 1 (of course! ), and that's currently $1.645 CAD. Maybe your quoted price is for a 36-roll, but that's not going to account for an eight-fold price difference.

Perhaps it's worth checking, to see if they made a... 'mistake' in their pricing?
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Fuji Color 200 is technically excellent (small grain, accurate colour) and at approx. €2.50 hard to beat. Fuji Superia 200 is perhaps even better but a little costlier. Kodak Gold 200 is grainier and warmer. If you like Kodak's colour palette (I do) then that's the way to go. Cost is about as much as Superia 200. The cheapest Kodak I can find here is Kodak Color 200 for €2.50. It is older technology film and it kinda shows. There's also a Lomo 100 that is almost surely some kind of Kodak. I suspect it's the same as Kodak Pro 100? Not sure. But it has great colour and at €3.70 it is a very enticing proposition in case you need an ISO 100 film (the only other offering being Ektar at twice the price).

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Using Fuji Superia 200 in my T3 all the time now. Really like the color palette of this film and for me it works best at box speed. Quit expensive here in BCN, so I order always in Germany at Macodirect, the have the 36 3er Pack for around $11,20 means around $3,70 per film.

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I think superia 200 is a nice balance. The problem here may be that you do not have local options. Take a look at buying bulk online. EU has a few suppliers.
Even it can make sense to order from Asia... The Kodak Proimage that Brett and Michael mention is distributed in select markets (Asia) and I haven't seen it here in EU nor America. There are a few ebay sellers that can ship worldwide and price is good.

Each place has its quirks on particular films. UK has the Poundland Agfa Vista, in Spain (BCN) it's around 5€ so priced like a Superia.

We have a Lomo store there, so it is convenient to have a cheap local option.


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I've often thought about selling some Kodak Pro Image 100 to members of this forum but I'm not sure if the film will get x-rayed or not. As far as Thai Post goes, it's better than good. I've sent numerous Leica cameras and lenses to the states and I've never had a problem (knock on wood). The price has risen to 590 Baht for 5 rolls (about 17 USD). I'm not sure if it's worth it or not to sell online, but if I did I'd advertise here on the classifieds to make sure I do it properly.

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Kodak Colorplus 200, widely available of Ebay. For a small fun camera I take my Voigtlander Vito B (small viewfinder and with independently set aperture and shutter speeds, 1 sec to 1/125 sec in the modern progression plus 1/300 sec but 1/300 is in fact 1/250 with these cameras). Mine has the f2.8 Color Skopar lens, a world class unit focussing Tessar (the Rollei Tessar is front cell focussing, I think). My flash is an Olympus S20. I need a cold-to-hot shoe adapter to connect the flash to the PC socket and allow the flash to be mounted. For portrait shots I slip the flash off the coldshoe and hold it above the camera so the shadow is always below the subject. Satisfyingly simple and great fun! Kodak negative film seems particularly well suited to sunny conditions.
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Hey gang!

Next month I'm going abroad with a couple of compacts (mainly because I'm too much of a wimp to take my Leica along) and was wondering what your favourite Colour Negative Film is. I am going to the Caribbean (Cuba) so needless to say, I want to capture all of the beautiful colours the Caribbean has to offer. As much as I would love to take 20 rolls of Velvia or Ektar along, it just isn't economically feasible (aka I'm cheap).

The only "cheap" colour negative stock I've ever used has been Kodak Gold 200 and I absolutely loved it.

I'm essentially looking for suggestions and was wondering if any of you folks have a favourite? Any responses are greatly appreciated
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Superia 200 has always been my pick for cheap 35mm colour. Nice balance of grain, colour reproduction and tones, especially under bright sunlight.
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Superia 400 for me. Tried Ultramax 400 and was disappointed with the results (and I used it for holiday as well).
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I've often thought about selling some Kodak Pro Image 100 to members of this forum but I'm not sure if the film will get x-rayed or not. As far as Thai Post goes, it's better than good. I've sent numerous Leica cameras and lenses to the states and I've never had a problem (knock on wood). The price has risen to 590 Baht for 5 rolls (about 17 USD). I'm not sure if it's worth it or not to sell online, but if I did I'd advertise here on the classifieds to make sure I do it properly.

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Sell me 5 rolls and I'll be the guinea pig in this experiment. If xrays ruin it, I'll let peeps know before you set it up as a regular enterprise.
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Got to be Kodak's Pro Image 100. Great colours for the great price of US$3.2 per roll.
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Sell me 5 rolls and I'll be the guinea pig in this experiment. If xrays ruin it, I'll let peeps know before you set it up as a regular enterprise.


I did purchase Provia from Thailand a couple of years ago and it is perfect.
Heck, I mail order and process film sending out always and never had problems. I could guess they must do some security controls but perhaps automated ones.

At those prices it is cheap. There's a Thai eBay seller but his prices aren't that cheap now.

OTOH it is interesting that Thailand has a nice film network.


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Fujifilm C200 is dirt cheap, and here in my country the cheapest color negative film. Nevertheless it is quite good.
Superia 200 delivers better quality, and is still very cheap. Excellent price performance ratio.
Superia 200 has better detail rendition (smaller grain, higher resolution) than Kodak's Color Plus 200 (older emulsion) and Gold 200 (current emulsion).
I prefer the color rendition of Superia 200. The Kodak films are to yellowish (warm) for my taste.

The current AgfaPhoto Vista are produced by Fujifilm.
Vista 200 seeems to be Fuji C200, and Vista 400 is probably Superia 400.

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Hey gang!

Next month I'm going abroad with a couple of compacts (mainly because I'm too much of a wimp to take my Leica along) and was wondering what your favourite Colour Negative Film is. I am going to the Caribbean (Cuba) so needless to say, I want to capture all of the beautiful colours the Caribbean has to offer. As much as I would love to take 20 rolls of Velvia or Ektar along, it just isn't economically feasible (aka I'm cheap).

The only "cheap" colour negative stock I've ever used has been Kodak Gold 200 and I absolutely loved it.

I'm essentially looking for suggestions and was wondering if any of you folks have a favourite? Any responses are greatly appreciated
You can get Kodak 200 Gold at Wal-Mart in Canada. Probably the best cheap film we can get locally.
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Development costs more than the film

Thus, I use Portra - but otherwise, Kodak if you like warm, Fuji if you like clean, saturated greens
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i shot published work with both generic fuji and kodak 200 films, they were in date and processed shortly after exposure (no more than, say, a week)
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I'm all about Agfa Vista 200. Great results in overcast conditions (which is basically all the time here in Yorkshire.)
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Thanks for the advice! I almost bought a Rollei Flash with the camera itself but I was weirded out by either A) having the flash on bottom or B) holding the camera upside down.

Any recommendations for a small flash unit?
There's a third option which is to use a PC adapter in the flash holder (e.g. something like the Nikon AS-15) or, if you look into the tripod socket, there is a PC socket at the bottom. This was meant for an adapter that they made years ago. To use it, you would need to modify a PC extension cable to reach the socket. It is too far in to use a normal PC cord. In either case, you can use any flash that will connect with a PC cable, off camera.
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