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Old 07-10-2017   #41
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35mm samples

https://flic.kr/p/VownPt
https://flic.kr/p/Vowo84


A couple with the Summaron from the other day on [email protected]
https://flic.kr/p/Vowq9Z

https://flic.kr/p/VkPhCG

https://flic.kr/p/VowoUe

https://flic.kr/p/VkPigL

https://flic.kr/p/VkPowq


above on Nokton 35mm 1.4 SC on hp5 @ various ei

https://flic.kr/p/VkPj6m

https://flic.kr/p/Vowwj4

Last 2 are the Elmar. The bike is hp5 I believe and the skyway is Fp4

Hope this gives you a visual of their character a little bit.

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Old 07-23-2017   #42
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voigtlander nokton 1.2ii, great character, i just wish it was lighter
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Old 07-23-2017   #43
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voigtlander nokton 1.2ii, great character, i just wish it was lighter
I'm with you on this one. My favorite 35mm of all 35mm lenses.

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Old 07-23-2017   #44
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35mm Summicron v2 or v3.
This. I got a 35 Zeiss Biogon and had to send it back for the dreaded barrel wobble and the focus ring had tight and loose spots. So far every experience I've had with lenses always points back to Leica glass.
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Old 01-30-2019   #45
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vm ultron f1.7 and zm biogon f2
If you don't mind the weight, ZM 35 1.4
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Old 01-30-2019   #46
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How about under $100? A Jupiter 8 or for a 35mm lens a jupiter 12.
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Old 01-30-2019   #47
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My favorites are

Zeiss 50mm f1.8 Ultron
Zeiss 50mm f2 Sonnar

Close 2nds:
Schneider Kreuznach 50mm f1.9 Xenon
Schneider Kreuznach 35mm f2.8 Curtagon

EDIT: (non-Leica M-mount lenses to be clear, M42, Contax RF, [email protected] respectively)
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Old 01-30-2019   #48
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How about under $100? A Jupiter 8.
A very nice choice. I actually ended up with two.
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Old 01-30-2019   #49
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I am a big fan of the Summaron 35mm f/3.5. Not very fast, but very easy to carry around. The optical quality is second to none.

Leica M5, Summaron 35mm f/3.5 (latest M-version), 400-2TMY.

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Agreed. And they're still surprisingly affordable.

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I absolutely love Mr. Myazaki's Perar Triplet 35/3.5 pancake. It fits perfectly on the front of my M-A making it darned near pocket sized. Ergonomically it is a bit quirky, and it isn't terribly sharp in the corners until f5.6, but it is so small and light I forgive it for its small imperfections.

I prefer to call it "character."
I really like this lens on small bodies. Ultimately, I think it was a mistake not making it LTM mount. It would be quite amazing on a Barnack.
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Old 01-30-2019   #50
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I remember the day when $1,000 bought you a new 35mm Summicron. Not any more. Makes me feel old.
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Old 01-30-2019   #51
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The 40mm M-Rokkor f/2. Close enough to 35mm for most purposes.
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Old 01-30-2019   #52
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My favorites are

Zeiss 50mm f1.8 Ultron
Zeiss 50mm f2 Sonnar

Close 2nds:
Schneider Kreuznach 50mm f1.9 Xenon
Schneider Kreuznach 35mm f2.8 Curtagon

EDIT: (non-Leica M-mount lenses to be clear, M42, Contax RF, [email protected] respectively)
Not 35mm focal lengths, and won’t work natively on Ms, other than that, nice glass!

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Old 01-30-2019   #53
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Nikkor 35/2.5 LTM, very nice copies are generally under $400, renders similarly to the 35/2.8 Summaron. Oddball filter size but works with A36 filters.
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Old 01-30-2019   #54
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I only have the CV 35/1.4 and 35/1.2 v1, and I prefer the f1.4 version because it is much smaller and lighter, and is easier to focus. The images from the f1.2 v1 are great, though. Lots of character and lovely rendering.

I did have a CV 35/1.7 LTM for a week, and I LOVED the way it handled and rendered, but it backfocused on my M9 and it couldn't be calibrated, so back to the shop it went. If I could find a good f1.7 LTM I'd grab it with both hands. Wide open, it had a lovely creamy look, and when stopped down it was sharp but still organic, and it made subtle sunstars on the pinpoint highlights. On the M9 it felt so good, unlike any other lens I've tried. Man, I loved that lens.

A few years ago, I shot with the Zeiss Biogon 35/2.8 for a day and really enjoyed it. It handles beautifully and the sharpness and rendering is excellent. Perhaps a little clinical, but that's fine if that's your bag.
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Old 01-30-2019   #55
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UC Hexanon.
V2 Summilux.
3.5cm f/1.8 Nikkor

All of these can be found for under $1000 with some looking and patience.

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$1000 would require sellers who don’t have a clue.

Such a deal *is* possible, similar things have happened to me over the years...
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Old 01-30-2019   #56
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Budget conscious:
1. Jupiter 12 35/2.8
2. CZ 35/2.8
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4. CV 35/2.5
I stayed with the Summaron and a V.2 Pre-asph Summilux.
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Old 01-30-2019   #57
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I guess we should add the new Voigtlander 35/2 Ultron-M ($800) to the list. A lotta bang for the buck, and pretty awesome performance (if you don't mind heavy vignetting).
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Old 01-31-2019   #58
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I guess we should add the new Voigtlander 35/2 Ultron-M ($800) to the list. A lotta bang for the buck, and pretty awesome performance (if you don't mind heavy vignetting).
Heavy vignetting to one is

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A touch of vignetting is a pleasant thing, I think.
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There's so many good 35mm lenses under $1000 these days, its hard to choose!
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Old 01-31-2019   #59
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One of my favorites too is the uncoated, nickel LTM-Elmar 35mm f/3.5. Can be had for EUR 400. Watch out for scratches. It should be cleaned for fog, but man, then you'll be surprised. No flare. You hear me? No flare, an uncoated 35mm of 80 years old ... and very sharp and zero distortion.

Leica M2, Nickel Elmar 35mm, 400-TMY, printed on ADOX MCC 110.

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Leica MP, same lens:

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One of my favorites too is the uncoated, nickel LTM-Elmar 35mm f/3.5. Can be had for EUR 400. Watch out for scratches. It should be cleaned for fog, but man, then you'll be surprised. No flare. You hear me? No flare, an uncoated 35mm of 80 years old ... and very sharp and zero distortion.

Leica M2, Nickel Elmar 35mm, 400-TMY, printed on ADOX MCC 110.

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Eric,
You prefer the Elmar to the Summaron f3.5?
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Old 01-31-2019   #61
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summaron 2.8 ltm
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Old 01-31-2019   #62
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Leica 35mm f2.8 Summaron (M2 version). Definitely one of my all time favorites
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Old 01-31-2019   #63
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After seeing the few pics from the new 35mm f2 ultron, It looks like that would be a tough lens to beat for under 1k
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Old 01-31-2019   #64
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Old 01-31-2019   #65
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You prefer the Elmar to the Summaron f3.5?
Difficult to say. The Elmar is very small, but maybe the Summaron has a finer tonality because it is coated. However, there are coated 35mm f/3.5 Elmars too.

I do not like the Summaron f/2.8 as it has very weak corners at the larger openings. It is very sharp in the center, but the difference between the center and the corners is too big in my opinion. I prefer the f/3.5.

Of course the Voigtländer offerings at f/1.7 and f/2 are truly bargains at those prices. The Voigtländer f/1.4 Summilux clones have a lot of barrel distortion.

Leica MP, LTM Summaron 35mm f/3.5, Tmax400, printed on Adox MCC 110.

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Difficult to say. The Elmar is very small, but maybe the Summaron has a finer tonality because it is coated. However, there are coated 35mm f/3.5 Elmars too.
I've read that the Elmars are very hit or miss in terms of performance. Some have a very pronounced field curvature, while others do not. I think this was one of the last lenses made before Leitz's quality control took a big leap forward for glass/lens manufacturing.
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I've read that the Elmars are very hit or miss in terms of performance. Some have a very pronounced field curvature, while others do not. I think this was one of the last lenses made before Leitz's quality control took a big leap forward for glass/lens manufacturing.
Well, I have two of them, one with the lever at infinity at 11-o-clock and the other at 7-o-clock. Both are very early but superb performers.

That story about quality control is nonsense. I think that at Leitz in those years there was a quality control on an extreme level.

This one is with the 11-o-clock lens at full aperture.

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Looks good to me. I have a later coated version, but have yet to do any serious testing with it. Maybe I'll put it against a few lenses this weekend.
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