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Just keep the Heliar Classic 50/2 62 31.96%
Just keep the Nokton 50/1.5 87 44.85%
Both of them are necessary 45 23.20%
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Old 05-15-2010   #41
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The amazing Nokton in amazing hands. What a great shot.
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Alan & Maggie, THANK YOU....
the nokton is sooo Elegantly Sharp
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I now have the Heliar 50/2 a nd 50/3.5, and both lenses are very special. I have tried out the Nokton but I don't own such a lens.
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I now have the Heliar 50/2 a nd 50/3.5, and both lenses are very special. I have tried out the Nokton but I don't own such a lens.
Aside from the difference in speed, can you see any differences in the images as far as sharpness, bokeh, etc? In other words, is there a reason to choose one over the other aside from the fact that one is faster?
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The 50/3.5 can have a 3D effect in some images, while the 50/2 is very sharp. I compared all 3 lenses recently with Roland's help. Take a look at the extensive side by side comparisons of about 30 50mm lenses.
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does anybody know if the heliar is colapsable on a M8?
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Old 06-19-2010   #49
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Seem to be a lot of 50/1.5 noktons for sale in the classifieds lately. Hmm...
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does anybody know if the heliar is colapsable on a M8?
Yes, it's surely the least intrusive collapsible, since it doesn't protrude behind the mounting flange at all. I even had mine 6-bit coded and use it frequently on my M8.

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Other disadvantage for me is the 39 filter size that is uncommon now making difficult to find easily any new filters of this size.

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I have the 50/1.5 nokton and love the lens. Wonderful in low light and I enjoy the color, detail, and bokeh that this lens produces. The lens has a great look and feel of a quality built lens.

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. . . . . I would like to add the 50/2 to the kit at some point in time but for now all I have is the time and not the money . . . . .
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It is a lovely lens. I have the first version.
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I'm going to vote for the Heliar because it is the only 50 I have. I like that it can be amazing and sharp but also has a really sweet retro look to it. If I wanted something that looked modern I'd just shoot digital.
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Another thread from the dead.

I still love the non collapsible Heliar 50.2. It is a very, very reliable lens. F2 isn't one of those sexy super fast lenses but it is one of those lenses that always seem to bring home the bacon, if you know what I mean. It reminds me a lot of my Planar 50/2 on the M mount. Not very sexy but very good.
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Yes, it came back to life.
I have the Heliar 50/2 and the CV 50/1.5. Both lenses are excellent lenses. The Nokton is a larger sized lens.
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It was one of the old threads which came from here while I was researching on Heliar 50 f2 lens at beginning of December 2015. I received large scans and negatives from this lens later on. From different copies (owners) of 50/2. Printed on different paper from one of them and ... I agree with majority in the poll. Both or 1.5.
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I'd keep the Heliar. One of my favorite images taken with it is Circus.
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Can a mod end the Poll? Otherwise this necrothread will keep coming back.
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I checked it out: what is a necrothread?

Negatively: an old, decaying thread that refuses to die.

Positively: a threaded conversation that had retained its usefulness so long that new comments are still being added years later.

Let's start a poll on it; which is your definition of "necrothread" here?
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Other disadvantage for me is the 39 filter size that is uncommon now making difficult to find easily any new filters of this size.

Huh? are you sure about this?
What? 39mm filters are readily available. Heck most of all the old Leica lenses are 39mm. Along with Nikon's 52 mm, they are standards.
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I still Love the ltm... have not tried the m mount...0.9 is fine with me


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Helen, you have a talent that turns just about any lens into a great one. Love your photographs and am jealous all at the same time. I hope that makes sense to you.
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I checked it out: what is a necrothread?

Negatively: an old, decaying thread that refuses to die.

Positively: a threaded conversation that had retained its usefulness so long that new comments are still being added years later.

Let's start a poll on it; which is your definition of "necrothread" here?
Do it Raid,

I vote #2. I love it that threads keep going, and hope that the OP sees it again and can comment on what they eventually chose.
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It's fine if the thread continues, but the poll bumps the thread even if there are no posts made. So your thread fits perfectly the description of option 1.

I never said kill the thread, I simply said kill the poll so it won't be bumped with no new post to view.
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I choose em both, and just subscribed to this thread so I can keep tabs on future posts. maybe even add my own comparisons after some actual photo taking....
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Helen, you have a talent that turns just about any lens into a great one. Love your photographs and am jealous all at the same time. I hope that makes sense to you.
Hehehe, Love Ya for that Pioneer , Thank You !!

Do know that 'feeling' when You see a Great photo... You love it and dang,
Wish 'You' had taken it ( as in Your restaurant Photo... Fellow with the Big hat, Great photo )

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Recent trip to the Negev Desert with Heliar 50/2

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It's fine if the thread continues, but the poll bumps the thread even if there are no posts made. So your thread fits perfectly the description of option 1.

I never said kill the thread, I simply said kill the poll so it won't be bumped with no new post to view.
Isn't there an option to have the poll close after a certain time when creating it? Maybe it needs to default to a year?
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have not tried the Heliar, though it does look like a Good lens ...here is the ltm nokton


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The Nokton ltm is a great lens, and so are the two Heliar lenses (50/2 and 50/3.5)
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Keep the Nokton 50/1.5: (see samples wide-open below)

M9+Nokton50mmf1.5-Mandarina1-1 by Palenquero Photography, on Flickr


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The 1st version Heliar Classic is a gem.


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Raid,
Since you have both 50mm Heliars (f/2 and f/3.5), perhaps you can answer a question that I've had on my mind. Are the two lenses the same?
That is, if you set the f/2 version to f/3.5 and match apertures from then on, do you get the same result?

I had the collapsible f/3.5 version, but I sold it as it is rather fiddly. Now I have the LTM f/2 version, which I love. From f/2 to f/2.8 you have aperture adjustable "glow". The old LTM Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 and f/2 had a similar behavior. Anyhow, as the f/3.5 has now appeared in a rigid conical "Mountain Elmar" type mount, I am curious.
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Hi Robert,
I don't know. I would be surprised if the two lenses "are the same" when used at identical aperture.
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Beautiful photos Mike!

Years ago I bought the Heliar 50mm F2 10th Anniversary Edition which I use both on my Bessa R or M7 (with LTM/M adapter of course).
The lens seems collapsible but doesn't.

Just curious does anyone know if from optical point of view it is the same as the Collapsible mentioned in this thread?

Thanks in advance, robert

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Sell both and buy a Cosina Color Skopar 50mm f/2.5 in black.

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