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Apple Jumps the Shark
Old 02-19-2019   #1
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Apple Jumps the Shark

https://petapixel.com/2019/02/19/tha...is-now-a-verb/

Another sign the apocalypse is upon us.
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Old 02-19-2019   #2
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Meh, we use RMA'd at work all the time.
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Old 02-19-2019   #3
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Indeed apocalypse
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"“bokeh’d” her child" ??. My Dad used to Bokeh'd me but I thought that now fell under child abuse.
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What ya gonna do?

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That's just weird!
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Import words into the English language are nothing new, in fact many words have been imported from other languages and found a sweet home in the English lexicon.

Turning a noun into a verb is just the next usual step.

Japanese also has loan words from English and French and German and even from Spanish.
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I'm not sure what the big deal is.

I've told people to check out the amazing apple of my Summilux 50 1.4 Asph for years now.
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However they pronounce it is their business but I have to question whether 'bokeh' can be created with an algorithm and clever software.

Seems a little like squeezing the juice out of almonds and calling it 'milk!'
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"Apple has jumped the shark"

Alternatively (in Britain at least): "Apple gives me the pip".

For those not in the know.... https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/de...omeone_the_pip

And of course those slow on the uptake, apples have.............
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I am waiting for the "bokeh selector": yes, I would like the 50mm f2 Sonnar @ f4 bokeh, please, oh wait maybe the Schneider-Kreuznach 35mm Curtagon at f2.8...

Of course, if you are concerned about improper verbalization of nouns, just google it.
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However they pronounce it is their business but I have to question whether 'bokeh' can be created with an algorithm and clever software.

Seems a little like squeezing the juice out of almonds and calling it 'milk!'
That's my beef too! If it didn't come from a teat, it is not milk!!
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Old 02-19-2019   #13
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Clever ad! They promote it as a feature while also making fun of the whole "bokeh" thing. Well done, Apple.
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I have no idea what "jump the shark" means, but making better bokeh thru software has been around for many a year. This is a very simple tutorial from 4 years ago

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/ho...p-bokeh-effect

None of this bothers me, and word usage is fluid, not fixed (how many of us have said "photoshopped" and stuff like that). I do notice that Trader Joe's calls their almond milk, almond beverage, so there's that. What gets me is that no one blinks at drinking beverage from a cow's teat, but just try and put human beverage from the same thing in a store and people would be aghast! The dairy industry has done a great job of brainwashing us into what sort of milk humans should drink.

Making better bokeh in software is no different than burning and dodging in a wet print or using one of those horrid, soft, swirly backdrops for portraits.
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Hence, bokehisationing and, if you don't like it, debokehisationing...


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Reminds me of their 'think different' campaign of about twenty years ago, where they truncated a perfectly good adverb to promote their ludicrous idea of radical chic.
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Bowker? What the (insert expletive) is that?

It's like "Nye-kon" for Nikon.

You'd think Apple would be able to find at least one Japanese person to ask for the pronunciation...
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Reminds me of their 'think different' campaign of about twenty years ago, where they truncated a perfectly good adverb to promote their ludicrous idea of radical chic.
Ugh, don't remind me. That was like fingernails on chalkboard. :-)
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"Who would bokeh a child?" Haha!
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The pronunciation in the video didn't seem like the phonetic spelling they suggested. I heard something like "Bo-kay."

I seem to think it should be "Boke-uh" or "Boke-ah."
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This just goes to show how overused bokeh is in photography... if anything, bokeh has “jumped the shark” long ago.
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Amen to that sentiment
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Amen to that sentiment

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This just goes to show how overused bokeh is in photography... if anything, bokeh has “jumped the shark” long ago.
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Hence, bokehisationing and, if you don't like it, debokehisationing...


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That really put a smile on my face. Thanks David
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The quality of the Bokeh is poor. They should have used my Super Takumar F1.4 50mm as their model.
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Just another example of verbing. A pox on our time!

I must say that this irritating ad gets the point across. Irritating because it makes the mother look pretty unreasonable.
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The pronunciation in the video didn't seem like the phonetic spelling they suggested. I heard something like "Bo-kay."

I seem to think it should be "Boke-uh" or "Boke-ah."
BO-KE ..Long o, short e; a hard, even emphasis on both syllables. It's Japanese.

Beyond that, the sky is falling! Some idiot marketing weasel told a silly story and used a word inappropriately!

Wake me when the kerfuffle is over...

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BO-KE ..Long o, short e; a hard, even emphasis on both syllables. It's Japanese.

Beyond that, the sky is falling! Some idiot marketing weasel told a silly story and used a word inappropriately!

Wake me when the kerfuffle is over...

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Even if they first got the pronunciation almost correct, eventually it will be modified to the "American" way .

Reminds me of the Subaru car commercials, when that car brand was first advertised on USA TV stations in the late 1960s.

The car brand name was first pronounced "Subaaaaru" which was closer to the Japanese pronunciation than it is now in the USA and most of Canada.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLPp-NFInXw
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Even if they first got the pronunciation almost correct, eventually it will be modified to the "American" way .

Reminds me of the Subaru car commercials, when that car brand was first advertised on USA TV stations in the late 1960s.

The car brand name was first pronounced "Subaaaaru" which was closer to the Japanese pronunciation than it is now in the USA and most of Canada.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLPp-NFInXw
Kind of like Hyundai (huundai)
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It's like that running gag in "Keeping Up Appearences" where her name was pronounced "bouquet" by her and "bucket" by everyone else...


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Even if they first got the pronunciation almost correct, eventually it will be modified to the "American" way .

Reminds me of the Subaru car commercials, when that car brand was first advertised on USA TV stations in the late 1960s.

The car brand name was first pronounced "Subaaaaru" which was closer to the Japanese pronunciation than it is now in the USA and most of Canada.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLPp-NFInXw

Or like Nikon.
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