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what are they worth?

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Depends on where you sell it, and in a small way if it's Canadian or German. I believe the German versions are more desirable, but some of that is just Leica internet mythology and things getting the best of us.

If selling here on RFF you can't really ask eBay prices, but I'd make a rough guess at around $1700-$2000 if you're lucky and get the right buyer.

EBay can be all over the place but most likely listed higher than $2000.
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Depends on where you sell it, and in a small way if it's Canadian or German. I believe the German versions are more desirable, but some of that is just Leica internet mythology and things getting the best of us.
Germany, Canada; doesn't matter. What matters is whether there's haze and if it can be remove. If so, and it is in the condition it appears, ~US$2300 and up.
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When the China made Summicron replica becomes available for sale for $500, there is a chance that a Summicron’s market value will go down.

Sell soon.
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When the China made Summicron replica becomes available for sake for $500, there is a chance that a Summicron’s market value will go down.

Sell soon.

This is what many copyists of Leica stuff have been thinking.


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what are they worth?

Kinda looks like that might be a convertible mount lens...
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When the China made Summicron replica becomes available for sake for $500, there is a chance that a Summicron’s market value will go down..
There *is* a chance, but it is somewhere between 'slim' and 'none.'

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sort of! Leica equipment will stay high cost.
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We Leica users tend to shoot ourselves in the foot maintaining certain myths alive (like the M4-2 camera is bad or that the Summicron 35 v4 is the best). In my experience, condition and operability dictates the price more often than not. However, one factor does count all the time: whether Leica made a lot or not of something. Silver lenses were not as abundant, so they can cost a bit more than black finish ones.

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This is what many copyists of Leica stuff have been thinking.


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In the end, people who want the "elite" Leica lenses will still buy Leica lenses. I may get the Chinese replica for beach photos when I don't want to take my V1 Summicron to the beach.
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what are they worth?
That will likely depend on how much impact the EU tariffs that just took effect will have on new lens pricing (if any). I would wait to see how that situation was plays out here in the near future before making a decision on where to set the price.
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New lens pricing will have no effect on this vintage lens.
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When the China made Summicron replica becomes available for sake for $500, there is a chance that a Summicron’s market value will go down.

Sell soon.

Did Cosina have any real effect on Leica prices? If anything it pushed them up.

I don't think a knock-off will hurt the value of V1 Summicrons. I plan to buy one, but I doubt my original will lose any value.
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Did Cosina have any real effect on Leica prices? If anything it pushed them up.

I don't think a knock-off will hurt the value of V1 Summicrons. I plan to buy one, but I doubt my original will lose any value.
I hope so. I don't want Leica price to tumble because of replicas.
This replica is not a CV case; it is a true replica. step by step.
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Did Cosina have any real effect on Leica prices? If anything it pushed them up.

I don't think a knock-off will hurt the value of V1 Summicrons. I plan to buy one, but I doubt my original will lose any value.
I might be not so keen with knock-off term (those who represent this lens copy are good people at RFF), but you are correct
Here is corrected 35 1.4 mkII already Nokton, but trashed old Lux from Great White North is now hoovering at 3K USD price.

And while where are fake Rolex and BMW, it didn't moved those original items prices down at all.

I was in federal tax free Stare last winter (somewhere close to Quebec). I have seen two Chinese tourists running from one brand store to another with cargo cart. Buying in quantities. I asked my Chinese senior why? He told me - because it is not fake.
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No offense intended...
I actually admire the guy making the replica, but it is exactly that; a replica. I am signed up to buy one and am looking forward to it.

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I might be not so keen with knock-off term (those who represent this lens copy are good people at RFF), but you are correct
Here is corrected 35 1.4 mkII already Nokton, but trashed old Lux from Great White North is now hoovering at 3K USD price.
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New lens pricing will have no effect on this vintage lens.
Ah, I see the error of my ways now. Your correction is appreciated.
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sort of! Leica equipment will stay high cost.
yes, and i like it that way!

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Price only matters for those buying, selling, or trading. Those happy with the lenses they already have can just smile and make photos.

I'm content with the Leica cameras and lenses I already have, so what Leica does or what China does is of no concern to me. I suspect this is true for many people with Leica film cameras.
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The value of my 35 'cron is priceless. I don't consider it an investment, but rather a set of refractive elements to make pictures with:


Plus, it matches my camera perfectly.
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When the China made Summicron replica becomes available for sale for $500, there is a chance that a Summicron’s market value will go down.

Sell soon.
Remember that they can't be using the same glass and there's collectors value to an authentic Leica Summicron
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Remember that they can't be using the same glass and there's collectors value to an authentic Leica Summicron
I guess that is true. Most Leica equipment keep their price either due to demand and for collector value. Demand is driven by user and collection value is drive by collectors.

No offense but people that can't/won't pay Summicron's price aren't influencing price (they are not affecting demand). Only way I see that it will affect prices is if lots of people star selling their summicron's for cheap (unlikely) and start replacing for this replica.

On my side, I will buy one and keep my summicron. Probably do some comparative but I probably will keep using the original Summicron.

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Didn't CV draw some buyers away from Leica lenses?
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Didn't CV draw some buyers away from Leica lenses?
Cosina has been clever in creating lenses that don't seek to emulate or imitate. They've created a space of their own, not unlike Zeiss. Personally, and I suspect this is true for many, these lenses have their separate purposes and duplicate a FL I already own in Leica.
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