Who has a Leica M6 TTL Millenium
Old 09-23-2010   #1
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Who has a Leica M6 TTL Millenium

Hello, I am offered a Leica M6 TTL Millenium edition. I wonder who of our RFF members (and Leica forum members - I put a cross reference at their forum) has such a camera. What I especially find attraktive is that it is a kind of MP or M2 but with a large shutterspeed wheel.

I don't have any photos yet so if you have one, please show it here and let me know whether you really use it or leave it stored in a kabinet.

I am also interested in the serial of yours since there are supposed to be only 2000 of them and I am curious which ones are in the hands of our members.

BTW, I am still interested to ascertain where these 2000 cameras are kept. Here is what I found so far. In order to rule out numbers of cameras still for sale at the shops, I also provided their nrs in the list.


2500020 web shop
2500072 web shop
2500095 rff member
2500109 rff member
2500134 rff member
2500137 rff member
2500143 (undisclosed) Fashion Designer in NYC
2500144 rff member
2500274 web shop
2500312 rff member
2500371 web shop
2500415 rff member
2500422 web shop
2500448 web shop
2500542 rff member
2500567 leica forum member
2500721 rff member
2500742 web shop
2500764 web shop
2500767 rff member
2500769 web shop
2500777 web shop
2500820 rff member
2500825 web shop
2500886 rff member
2500907 leica forum member
2500911 rff member
2500963 flickr member
2500973 owner unknown - sale by web shop (sold on 26-1-2012)
2501012 owner unknown - sale by web shop (sold on 10-9-2010)
2501016 rff member
2501039 rff member
2501043 rff member
2501063 shop Hamburg
2501065 web shop
2501107 web shop
2501114 flickr member
2501126 web shop
2501213 rff member
2501323 rff member
2501348 rff member with conversion to 0.58 finder
2501354 rff member
2501381 rff member
2501383 web shop
2501390 owner unknown - sale by web shop
2501394 web shop
2501405 rff member
2501429 rff member
2501474 flickr and rff member
2501499 web shop
2501566 rff member
2501578 rff member
2501630 rff member
2501698 rff member
2501706 rff member
2501715 rff member
2501760 owner unknown - sale by web shop (sold on 3-9-2011)
2501775 rff member
2501837 rff member
2501849 web shop
2501862 rff member
2501913 web shop
2501990 owner unknown - sale by web shop (sold on 9-3-2011)
250???? rff member nr. not revealed, camera kept in a bank deposit
250???? leica forum member, nr. not revealed
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Old 09-23-2010   #2
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Old 09-23-2010   #3
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I don't have one but I've handled one in person.
What I like: black paint finish, big shutter dial, engraving, black frame counter.
What I don't like: MP rewind knob, it's a collectable. It has the red dot, which doesn't bother me but I know some people won't like it.
In addition to the serial number there is a number engraved on the hotshoe saying which # out of 2000 it is.
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There is nothing wrong to shoot with a beautiful camera

Hi, I am using a M6 TTL ICS version which is the same as the Millenium version...this camera shape like a MP but slightly taller...

For those that like the easy big dial rotation that rotate in the direction of the red exposure indication arrow should use this camera. Although I must admit that sometime I need to re-orientate the rotation when using other M...

Don't worry about BP scratches...just use it and let the BP brass...it's a keeper and shooter...

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... I am also interested in the serial of yours since there are supposed to be only 2000 of them and I am curious which ones are in the hands of our members. ... can they have a number above 2502000?
The M6 Millennium was produced in 2000 (2,500,001 – 2,502,000) and represented the first BP camera Leica had produced in ~32 years. Variations included the ICS (200 units), Safari (300 in green paint), 2000 Dragon (500), Oresund Bridge (150), and LHSA (~1,150, but I don't believe there is an 'official' number) – all produced the same year (2000), accept the safari, which was 2001.

The last two (Oresund Bridge and LHSA) had the slanted M4/M6 style RW crank. The others had the M2/3 style 'post' RW.

Note (edit): The sr. numbers on these special edition cameras reached into the 2,6xx,xxx range and were produced two to three years prior to the introduction of the MP.

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Hi, I am using a M6 TTL ICS version which is the same as the Millenium version...this camera shape like a MP but slightly taller...

For those that like the easy big dial rotation that rotate in the direction of the red exposure indication arrow should use this camera. Although I must admit that sometime I need to re-orientate the rotation when using other M...

Don't worry about BP scratches...just use it and let the BP brass...it's a keeper and shooter...

Thats just perfect. Beautiful brassing =)
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Old 09-25-2010   #7
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I have one , bought new in 2000 , never used it , not one film . It is brand new in the box in a locker in the bank .

My user is a regular TTL chrome . I never touched the BP since many years , so I guess it will need cla if I ever want to sell it ? Before I used to go to the bank from time to time and go through all the speeds and turn the focussing ring and aperture ring . Right now , I think the prices might be too low .

I don't have it here , so sorry about pictures and serial nr. , good luck !

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I have one and it is my main film camera these days. I love its large shutter speed dial (with a nice knurl on it). I changed its RED dot to a black dot. Started brassing
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The LHSA TTL is one of the most beautiful Leica I ever had. Sadly I sold it to a fellow RF member as I really can't bear to see it wear on my hands. The black paint is gorgeous and the black dot (only original black dot for film Leica) as well. This must be cheaper than the millenium I believe.

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The LHSA TTL is one of the most beautiful Leica I ever had. Sadly I sold it to a fellow RF member as I really can't bear to see it wear on my hands. The black paint is gorgeous and the black dot (only original black dot for film Leica) as well. This must be cheaper than the millenium I believe.

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I'm looking for a Millenium edition, (to modify into a 0.85 finder) or a NSH Black Paint 0.85 (CODE 10447) or a LHSA Black Paint 0.85

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I just found my Millenium in the mail and it is really gorgeous camera!! and definitely a keeper (although I will have to sell some gear myself in order to justify this investment).

What I prefer about the Millenium above the LHSA is the rewind knob which makes it a real classic for me.

Btw mine has number 95.
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btw here a picture a just shot from this baby.... hope you like the straplugs as much as I do (and the script doesn't read 'Solms' like the LHSA)

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^ that is a niiiice Millenium Ron ! i love the shutter speed knob and black film counter (not installed yet) so much that i bought them for my LHSA .72

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btw here a picture a just shot from this baby.... hope you like the straplugs as much as I do (and the script doesn't read 'Solms' like the LSHA)

Yes, this is the one I want too........while I like the painted lugs and the "black out" film counter and the M2/3 film rewind and film advance ~ I just need to add a M6J or MP 0.85 finder.

....and well the 0.85 Black Paint code 10447 is the same camera, just has the 0.85 built in, (already done) it's a rarer camera, I think they only made 500?

I want to find one hopefully very soon.....

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I have one - number 721. My wife bought it for me from her VR payment when she left her Bank job in 2000. It is my 'go to' regular shooter and has been all over the world with me. The odd little 'knick' but not yet brassing. Saving for an M9 right now and wondering if the M6 will survive the process - hope so. Couple it to a Chrome Screw Thread Summicron Asph - quite rare, and gives the Panda look. Also have an old Canadian Summilux with specs I love to use with it.

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Yes, this is the one I want too........while I like the painted lugs and the "black out" film counter and the M2/3 film rewind and film advance ~ I just need to add a M6J or MP 0.85 finder.

....and well the 0.85 Black Paint code 10447 is the same camera, just has the 0.85 built in, (already done) it's a rarer camera, I think they only made 500?

I want to find one hopefully very soon.....

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Wish you good luck and hope you find one soon Tom. I'm not sure how many were made in 0.85 but clearly the 0.72 is the more 'common' one.

Btw I have a still a regular black M6 TTL 0.85....
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Wish you good luck and hope you find one soon Tom. I'm not sure how many were made in 0.85 but clearly the 0.72 is the more 'common' one.

Btw I have a still a regular black M6 TTL 0.85....
They did make a 0.85 version of the Millenium edition , the 10447 camera, I think built for Japanese market???

I'll be adding the 0.85 finder no matter what I do.......

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I have one - number 721. My wife bought it for me from her VR payment when she left her Bank job in 2000. It is my 'go to' regular shooter and has been all over the world with me. The odd little 'knick' but not yet brassing. Saving for an M9 right now and wondering if the M6 will survive the process - hope so. Couple it to a Chrome Screw Thread Summicron Asph - quite rare, and gives the Panda look. Also have an old Canadian Summilux with specs I love to use with it.

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Thanks Charles, will put your number in the list (see above). Can you show a pic of your "tour around the world" Millenium?
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Some years back I found a 'spare part' Millennium topcover and converted my M7 to a BP MP-7 one-of-a-kind. All of the BP parts were ordered through Leica.

I sold the camera to a collector a few years ago to finance another purchase - I believe it was an M8.
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btw here a picture a just shot from this baby.... hope you like the straplugs as much as I do (and the script doesn't read 'Solms' like the LHSA)

Am I alone in thinking that that is one of the nicest and most underrated Leicas ever produced? Thats right up there with a BP M4 on my want list now.
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Here's one http://cgi.ebay.ph/LN-Leica-M6-0-72-...#ht_8763wt_913
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Am I alone in thinking that that is one of the nicest and most underrated Leicas ever produced? Thats right up there with a BP M4 on my want list now.
Absolutely yes but the "MP Classic" is even more underrated and that makes it more desirable IMO.

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Wow they have either shot up in price or thats a very expensive one. I looked at one in a shop in Paris about a year ago for 1850 euro (2000 dollars) and that was in quite an expensive dealer. I'll stay away until I can get one for a better price than that.

Thanks for the heads up though.

The same deal with the Classic MP, beautiful camera, just a little too pricey to be a user for my budget.

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Loving mine. IT's my go-to meter M. Love the big dial, red dot (currently changed to black dot), old rewind knob, blackpaint brass top over the regular M6.

Everything I wished the MP to have except the flarey Viewfinder.

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thanks, I put the serialnumber in the above list as one that is still available
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Here's how my M6 look like now.

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Very nice Personally, I'd swap out the rewind and preview levers from MP style ones--black paint of course! I like the lens too.

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Just started a Flickr group for the Leica Millenium. All RFF-members who have such a camera are invited to join the group.

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Mine resting on my vintage leather jacket.
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Mine resting on my vintage leather jacket.
Thanks for posting Jaep, I just put yours in the list.

btw a few days ago this one (nr. 1012) seems to be sold together with two lenses - to a lucky rff-member?:

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Just heard that a lucky fellow member acquired nr. 0415, which has been added to the list above.
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You can add # 1348 to the list. This is my Millennium, finder was converted to 0.58. It is by now a well seasoned camera.
Piece of trivia: When Leica was working on the LHSA and Millennium cameras, I assisted with some input on the type of paint to use and the "glossiness" of it. At that time I suggested that they also paint the film-counter dial black with white numbers. This was taken from a series of original black paint DS M3's made in the 50's. It looked better than the bright chrome disc of the regular dial.
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You can add # 1348 to the list. This is my Millennium, finder was converted to 0.58. It is by now a well seasoned camera.
Piece of trivia: When Leica was working on the LHSA and Millennium cameras, I assisted with some input on the type of paint to use and the "glossiness" of it. At that time I suggested that they also paint the film-counter dial black with white numbers. This was taken from a series of original black paint DS M3's made in the 50's. It looked better than the bright chrome disc of the regular dial.
Thanks Tom, glad you provided that input...yours in on the list now too.
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Someone also got lucky with nr. 1990:

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BP lens prices are crazy. I should have reached and bought a BP 50 Lux a few years ago when I had a chance for @$1,400. But my new friend got the Luigi treatment last night and will start service as my user Leica today. Here is a better photo.

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Old 03-12-2011   #38
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BP lens prices are crazy. I should have reached and bought a BP 50 Lux a few years ago when I had a chance for @$1,400. But my new friend got the Luigi treatment last night and will start service as my user Leica today. Here is a better photo.

Thanks for posting Rover! I was looking for a BP 35mm summicron but prices are also sky high....
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BP lens prices are crazy. I should have reached and bought a BP 50 Lux a few years ago when I had a chance for @$1,400. But my new friend got the Luigi treatment last night and will start service as my user Leica today. Here is a better photo.

Well I guess I know who bought this now, I was about to purchase this camera as well but you beat me to it Oh well enjoy the new camera
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I just sent my serial number to the list. I have a BP 50 Summilux, toying with selling, but......

Maybe to the right buyer and price....
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