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If this was my christening, I'd be asking for my money back
Old 07-09-2015   #1
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If this was my christening, I'd be asking for my money back

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33467384

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I don't see the problem except for the douchebag with the teeth? Mario Testino is an excellent photographer in general..
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My god, what are you saying? Those were taken by Mario Testino! How dare you criticise the work of a man who has photographed generations of British royalty?!?

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I dunno about money back, but I can name thousands of photographers who could have done as well...or better.
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Perhaps he fogot to bring his camera and had to shoot it all on a cheap mobile phone?
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Perhaps, what exactly were you hoping for?
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I suspect that the newspaper wasn't as concerned with the image quality as the Queen may be with the actual prints. Additionally they may not have received the primo shots to post.

I'm pretty sure that Mario Testino knows how to take a photograph and besides, the Royal Family trusts him. That may end up being just as important.
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Perhaps he fogot to bring his camera and had to shoot it all on a cheap mobile phone?
That was my thought. Instagram too!
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Never mind the picture quality...
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Never mind the picture quality...

...it's the hats, the hats! They're burning my retinas
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Old 07-09-2015   #9
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I dunno about money back, but I can name thousands of photographers who could have done as well...or better.
About my thought when it comes to most British royalty, too. Seems like they found the right photographer.
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They're good shots.
So the blown highlights, ugly flash and out of focus doesn't bother you?

I get the shoddily-shot-mobile-phone-pics aesthetic, I just didn't it would be that appropriate given the 'customer'.
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Old 07-09-2015   #11
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Uh, have zombies captured the throne of Britain? It is hard to imagine how they must look in the flesh, when all the postprocessing habitual from these glamour publications can't do better than that...
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I saw some of the pics on TV news this evening. I was not impressed.
1st photo, 2 straight lines of people, those on bench were seated, pictured straight on, no creativity

2nd photo, someone holding a young boy, there's a tree (from the background) growing out of the boy's head

3rd photo, mom, dad, kids, but the horizon line lines up with mom's eye which bothered me.
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1 hour after having looked at the images, what's left are the genuine smiles, the proximity. That's what I call a success.
So just imagine if those genuine smiles were matched with in focus, properly exposed, colour balanced images.
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It would be nice if they could just have a day to celebrate with family and friends the christening of their daughter.

I don't think they gave much thought to how the photographs will be received by the public, beyond their responsibility to do so.
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Really ugly photos, I agree with the OP.

Embarrassing even.
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You miss my point - the guy is a well-reknown photographer, so the photographs are shot deliberately like this.

But why?

Is it to make the royals appear as 'one of us'?

From The Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-kate-children
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It would be nice if they could just have a day to celebrate with family and friends the christening of their daughter.

I don't think they gave much thought to how the photographs will be received by the public, beyond their responsibility to do so.
We're not criticizing the royals.

This is all about sour grapes that their photographer is rich and famous and we are not even though our photos are better than these.
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Oh, please.



Let's have some examples. Things you shot three scenes with a total of 15 people, a little boy, a baby, and a guy who can't wait to get to his midafternoon spanking, in a half an hour?
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Old 07-09-2015   #19
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These remind me of my parents' wedding photos from 1968...harsh flash, washed-out color. I think they're kind of interesting looking? Like, maybe deliberately retro?
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I like the last two... almost film like

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In the last photo, the father looks quite proud of how sharp his son's teeth are.
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OK, after skipping this link earlier, I couldn't resist, and just looked. My God, my kids at 10 years old took better photos than these. These are a joke. Too bad, photographers in the past knew their craft. These could have been taken by any soccer mom with a cellphone.

And for the record, I didn't know who the photographer was, and still don't, I just went an looked at the photos. Which is what we all should do. I don't care "who", I care "what", and if they were shot by Ansel Adams, if they suck, they suck. No....redeeming....qualities....at....all.
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So the blown highlights, ugly flash and out of focus doesn't bother you?

I get the shoddily-shot-mobile-phone-pics aesthetic, I just didn't it would be that appropriate given the 'customer'.
To me, these are OK. And I assume the clients were happy, so nothing wrong with them at all.

Carefully clipped highlights, balanced flash and in-focus sharpness never warrant a good photo though.
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1 hour after having looked at the images, what's left are the genuine smiles, the proximity. That's what I call a success.

And the family shot is technically superb.
Bwahahaha! Yeah, and my dog just laid a technically superb one in the backyard too! Exactly, what....pray tell, are you looking at? Nevermind, you are the one person with the opposite viewpoint, there always is one.....

Millions of group shots, made by millions of amateurs this year with cellphones, are better. Technically too.
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Based on the photographs in the link I would say Mario whatever-his-name has an inflated ego and over values his "talent". In other words, an artistic jack-ass based off how uncomfortable the Duke and Duchess look in the photos (force smiles, awkward stances). These photographs are supposed to be of a joy-filled day. What I get is a stiff, painful photo shoot where everyone just wants to get it over and done with. It's obvious the photographer did not connect with the royal family.
As for the technical qualities, they are what they are. Mario obviously was trying to put is mark on them. Based on the general reaction by those who have posted in this thread, his attempt is a failure.
He's no Annie Leibovitz.
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I'm noticing only one person in your Leibowitz example.

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A good bunch of jealous people in here...
http://www.porcelainista.net/?tag=mario-testino&paged=5
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A good bunch of jealous people in here...
Ned, if this is the ultimate troll, then well played Sir!
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Beautiful pictures. Are they yours? If so, my hat's off to you.
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Beautiful pictures. Are they yours? If so, my hat's off to you.

They're Testino's pictures, so your hat's off to him. Right?
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Yes, for sure. It's great for that genre of fashion magazine.

They show a lot more skill and talent (in a different genre) than these christening shots, IMO.
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W is like 3 dollars or so, there's a lot of good photography in it for 3 bucks, those big barnes and noble's usually have it. It's nice because it's a large format magazine.
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that leibovitz shot, while technically might be great, makes the Queen look like a wax figure. Frozen, dead, pale, static, scary a bit really. Madame Tussaud's or the real deal? not sure.

But no i also dont like the MT shots of this happening.

And no - nobody gives a rats ass what RFF people think of the shots, dont worry.
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I like the photos in the order 3, 2, 4, 1. The forced smile stiff group shot really feels like a family member asked the rest of the family to pose for the camera. But the arrangement of people are better than average. The other photos looks like the photographer just snapped the photo where the subjects happened to be located. He did not bring them into a location with lights setup etc. In all I think they look less contrived than the Annie shot (which by the way looks a bit processed/plastic to me eyes).
I like this sort of stuff and I'm not trolling.
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photos are fine, not so the subject
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They're supposed to look candid, as someone else said it's to reduce the sense of proximity, humanise the subject etc. Calling them technically bad is missing the point.

Testino does know what he's doing, just unfortunately what he's doing is making mawkish propaganda featuring a few of the world's most overpaid unemployed people that double as smiley faced figureheads for one of history's most brutal imperial regimes.
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I doubt he was a general random choice for a photographer, possibly the younger Royals wanted a more contemporary feel to their photographs too. Either way, I imagine they're happy and the photographer is happy.

I've seen far worse from so called professional wedding photographers, the clients of whom have no doubt scrimped and saved to pay a pretty high fee for their images....not something our Royal family will have done I wouldn't have thought, come to think of it - my pocket feels slightly less full today. God love 'em.

All in all, it does appear like the usual RFF backlash when a 'well-known' photographer gets a large commission and the images aren't universally liked. It's just our opinions and prejudices, thats all.
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They're supposed to look candid, as someone else said it's to reduce the sense of proximity, humanise the subject etc. Calling them technically bad is missing the point.

Testino does know what he's doing, just unfortunately what he's doing is making mawkish propaganda featuring a few of the world's most overpaid unemployed people that double as smiley faced figureheads for one of history's most brutal imperial regimes.
There's plenty of history left in the tank...
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I think they're perfectly nice photos, sure lighting, focus, and just about everything else is not what you'd consider 'professional', but nor are practically all of my favourite photos.

There are lots of skills which professional photographers will have, does not mean they're required 100% of the time.
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Take Testino's name of these photos and everyone would be raking these photos through the muck. Just goes to show how celebrity can warp people's reaction. I don't care what Testino has done in the past. We're not evaluating that work but what he has produced with his time with the royal couple. They're crap. But then maybe all of us who call it as we see it are missing Testino's point. Is he making a political point by producing crap while collecting (what I would guess) is a large commission from the royal family that he despises? The royals are not worth is best efforts? Regardless, I give the man a tip of the hat for having the cajones for produce these for the royals, knowing the world would see them.
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