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The $40 challenge - anybody interested?
Old 05-10-2013   #1
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The $40 challenge - anybody interested?

So I found $40 in the pocket of my pants and I got an idea.
Is it possible to buy a decent camera on the big auction site with everything included (shipping, taxes, duty etc.)?

Here are the rules for myself:
1. It has to be a film camera
2. It can't be an SLR
3. It has to take photos, so it can't be totally broken
4. It can't be an autofocus camera

I have 2 weeks to make the purchase from Monday 13th of May, 2013.

I'm doing this for myself and report back what I ended up with, but it would be fun if others join in to make a little friendly competition out of it. So here would be some extra rules:

4. If the camera you buy is a rangefinder you definately get brownie points.

5. For every $ you spend over $40 you loose brownie points, for every $ you stay under $40 you gain brownie points and voters (see below) will take that under consideration.

6. In about 4 weeks from now (to allow for shipping times) we post photos of the cameras we ended up with and a photo we shot with it. After that we vote (somehow I will figure out how this voting will work) which one of us got the best deal.
We will judge the camera and the quality of the photo

7. You have to be prepared to provide a link to the completed auction in order to provide proof that you really stayed around $40. So claims that you bought an M4 or Rolleiflex for $40 including shipping have to be cemented with hard evidence

8. If the camera you buy is broken, you can fix it, but it can't cost you anything. Of course we can't check that, so the honor system will rule.

8. Voting, brownie points etc. won't be scientific because this whole idea is supposed to be fun.

Remember the $40 include shipping, taxes and duty. So this will be tight especially for a Canadian like me. The folks from the US definately have an advantage here

Anybody interested?
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Old 05-10-2013   #2
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For $40, probably the only non SLR film cameras you are going to be able to buy are

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Koda...-/160360004309

or

http://www.amazon.com/Holga-144120-1.../dp/B000AL8JKW

Of those two, I'd take the Pony.
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The camera does not have to be new of course

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For $40, this is probably the only non SLR film camera you are going to be able to buy:
http://www.amazon.com/Holga-144120-1.../dp/B000AL8JKW
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I recently bought some FSU stuff in that price region, maybe the Zorki6 with Industar 50/3.5 was about that price.... Since it is already purchased (and I took photos with it) can I still join ?
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as long as you can proof the purchase price including shipping, sure Otherwise, you have to join "in spirit".

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I recently bought some FSU stuff in that price region, maybe the Zorki6 with Industar 50/3.5 was about that price.... Since it is already purchased (and I took photos with it) can I still join ?
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neat idea..now exchange rate gives me about $50.00 to spend and can i use the local version of ebay?
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as long as you can proof the purchase price including shipping, sure Otherwise, you have to join "in spirit".
Just checked my eBay auctions ... price without shipping was US39.90 shipping about the same so I am out ...
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I bought a Minolta CLE for $18.40. Unfortunately it is a box of parts, and it isn't coming back to life anytime soon. There is also no lens, but for $21.60 there should be lots of choice.
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Ill play if you will lift the no-autofocus rule for me.
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Hmmmm. Sure, local Ebay is fine. I think we should base the value on the equivalent of US$40 so we all have roughly the same idea. So if you are in Great Britain you could only spend around GBP30.

But don't worry, you only loose brownie points if you are over the US$40 This whole thing is supposed to be fun.

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neat idea..now exchange rate gives me about $50.00 to spend and can i use the local version of ebay?
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Sorry, no autofocus! That would be too easy.

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I think if you search Olympus XA and set the price bar at $35 you should do fine. LIkely even get a flash. No doubt there are other fixed lens RFs in its range but I don't know them. Does it have to come with batteries?
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If you need to buy batteries to take a photo, yes you would have to add that to the $40 budget

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I think if you search Olympus XA and set the price bar at $35 you should do fine. LIkely even get a flash. No doubt there are other fixed lens RFs in its range but I don't know them. Does it have to come with batteries?
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Y'all missed a $20+shipping folding Vitessa with Ultron earlier today. Wasnt looking for another project but someone got a good deal.
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I got a Rollei 35 Tessar in decent condition few months back for $50 (hence disqualified from this competition). Everything is working fine. I am sure you can find something reasonable if you are willing to wait and gamble.
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I guess a zone focus Oly trip etc would qualify, or an XA2 etc ?
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I just bought a Ansco Autoset with case and instruction booklet I picked the 12.30 shipping and not the 19 dollar one so the total came to $27.30 and seller says the shutter works so we'll see...it comes with an extra Yashica with a stuck shutter.

I'm glad I played your little game because I have been wanting to pick an Autoset up for some time now to go along with my Anscoset that I paid like 27 bucks for also.

The Autoset is an interesting little rig...same camera John Glenn bought at a drug store and took with him into orbit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Cool-Range...p2047675.l2557

I didn't realize he had a Leica too!

http://blog.nasm.si.edu/behind-the-s...-ansco-camera/
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Just won this for 38.95 including shipping.
No need for batteries and apparently it is working. Looks like I may have to open up the trigger to see if I can reconnect the cable release.
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Pleeeease add AF
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Pleeeease add AF

I got a Pentax SFX with 50/1.7 SMC -F for £19 yestrday
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Is something like a mju-1 or Stylus-1 ok ?

Olympus Trip?
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I can't buy more stuff right now, but I'll play with the purchases of the last 2 months, one of which is 100% within the rules. Let's start with the others:


1) FED-4 with 50mm I-61, local classifieds, €30=$39.03





Works, but has light leaks and a scratched lens. Will have to go. Test shot for proof:






2) Minolta Hi-Matic 7sII, local classifieds, €30 + €4.45 shipping + €1.4 battery = €35.85 = $46.64

Great condition, like new complete with case and Minolta flash. Great deal.





Works, I cleaned the VF and scanned the test film yesterday. I need to learn about scanning, the results show no contrast at all. With +100 contrast and +100 clarity in Lightroom, here's the result:






3) Revue 400SE, German eBay, sold as "Analogue camera for collector", winning bid €14.84 + €10 shipping + €1.4 battery = €26.24 = $34.14





I told the seller to keep the Ricoh to save on shipping costs. As pictured, it came with case, Revue flash and manual. Looks OK, everything seems to work, only the VF/RF front glass is loose and needs cleaning and a dab of glue. Feels a lot cheaper than the similar Hi-Matic. No test film yet.




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Here in the UK it'd be pretty easy to pick up a scale focusing medium format, or 35mm camera for that. Probably also any of the smaller cheaper 70s Japanese rangefinders [the raft of Konica C35 clones, for example]. The best bang for the buck, though, would probably come from an autofocus compact or SLR, which are ruled out.
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So now that you have everyone looking that will make it even harder. Plus I have enough GAS without being slung in a challenge Thanks.
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I bought this on eBay for $5.00, + $7.24 in shipping. Do I win?


Olympus 35 ECR by Greyscale3, on Flickr

It works just fine.

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I bought this on eBay for $5.00, + $7.24 in shipping. Do I win?


Olympus 35 ECR by Greyscale3, on Flickr

It works just fine.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/greysca...7632633116871/
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I just won a mju-1 for $10 and $4 shipping ...$14 NZD is $11.62 USD now all I need to do is check the battery and foam when it arrives and add a roll of film, reckon I can do all of that for under $40 USD/$48:18 NZD
Link to the auction which is of course closed now
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=590006105
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Yeah, but's that autofocus and therefore can only compete "in spirit"


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I just won a mju-1 for $10 and $4 shipping ...$14 NZD is $11.62 USD now all I need to do is check the battery and foam when it arrives and add a roll of film, reckon I can do all of that for under $40 USD/$48:18 NZD
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I just found out after looking at the manual that it's auto focus .... bugger back to the search.

Never thought that a camera that old would be auto focus ... so it pays to check before you bid.

Looking at a Olympus trip and that's zone focus, is that ok? Otherwise there is and early bottom wind Canonet Rangefinder that surely must qualify ;]
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too bad I just bought a $17 Retina IIa Heligon ...
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Remember we have to make a few snaps for this deal!

Film no slr no AF...best deal wins

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I can't be buying more cameras right now (even for $40 or less), but here are a few I've dredged up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ZEIS...item35c769e7e4

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-UNIV...item1c32a7cd67

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Graflex-Grap...item565626d500

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garfield-Tal...item5aed2513cd

That Graflex looks pretty cool, but I think I'd have to go for that last one.
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let's see: i HAVE to buy a camera? this looks like a fun contest ...
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XA2s are a typically safe bets:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Olympus-XA2-...item43bbdfe905
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i'm in. i clicked buy now a few minutes ago, $14 under the max, including shipping. hope it functions, as described. ain't a rangefinder, though, so i will lose style points ...
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I might be up for this as well. Does the camera have to come from ebay tho? No regular shops that sell 'used before' stuff allowed?
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Just won a Yashica Electro 35 GT for 50$ with shipping, which was 10$. way above budget but it is a nice camera, hopefully no POD, looks mint. Would be fun to add a second round to this, selling the camera you bought and see who made the biggest profit.
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