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Old 10-31-2013   #1
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Sold (almost) all my Leica Gear

Hey everybody,

I made a huge step today (for me) - I sold all my Leica Lenses.
I owned the Elmarit 21 2.8 ASPH, the 35 Summicron ASPH and the Summilux 50 ASPH.
I'll keep my M9, my M2 and the two new lenses (bought today) - the Zeiss 35 2.8 and the new Voigtländer 50 1.5 ASPH.

So why this?

I'm going to Cuba this year, to Spain and Israel next year and of course I need money for the trips.

So the question was: Keep the Leica Lenses and travel to closer destinations (less expensive) or travel to countrys I want to see and use cheaper lenses.

What have you (as a Leica Lover) done?
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Travelled with Leicas for 40+ years.

But then, I don't buy lenses I can't afford to keep.

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Old 10-31-2013   #3
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If you have to choose, well, I'd think what would I rather think on my death bed:

1) I'm glad I traveled and saw the places I wanted to.
2) I'm glad I hung onto all that German camera gear.
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I guess the trick may be to never buy anything unless you are sure you can always sell it for what you paid. Have a good trip, and I hope you still have some camera gear to explore these exotic places.

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Travelled with Leicas for 40+ years.

But then, I don't buy lenses I can't afford to keep.

Cheers,

R.
Well you know some things change in live. When I bought the lenses I could easily afford and keep them.
But back then I didn't made tons of photo trips around the world.

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I guess the trick may be to never buy anything unless you are sure you can always sell it for what you paid. Have a good trip, and I hope you still have some camera gear to explore these exotic places.

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I didn't loose any money with buying/selling the Leica Lenses.
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. . . But back then I didn't made tons of photo trips around the world. .. .
I always assumed I would. And to quite an extent, I have.

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I think you made a good, but not easy, decision.
There is no "right" decision on a matter like this.

Glass will usually keep its value; digital bodies not.
Yet still, the set up that you have could allow you to become one with the vision of your travels.

I myself am still thinking about a similar choice.
But my journey is an inner one.

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Become smarter at your work, earn more money, keep the lenses you like, travel where you want.
Alternative:
Open your eyes. There is a photo waiting for you at the corner of every street ( where you live now), no need to travel to exotic places.
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Become smarter at your work, earn more money, keep the lenses you like, travel where you want.
Alternative:
Open your eyes. There is a photo waiting for you at the corner of every street ( where you live now), no need to travel to exotic places.
As I am working in the photo business I have access to the whole Leica System (S, M) anytime for photography in my home city. So thats no problem at all

It was more a decision regarding my travel setup.
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Regarding travel set up?

Sold the D700 kit, bought 80 rolls of film and spent some time in Burma with an old M6 a 50 Summicron, and a 35 Biogon 2.



Go where your heart calls, take what you can, keep what you can't live without.
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For crying out loud folks, Leica is not the be all, end all. They are just 35mm cameras and lenses, expensive ones to be sure, but still just cameras. The lenses you chose to keep are terrific and will work wonderfully for you on your cameras.

Travel and do what you enjoy. Forget about whether it makes sense to anyone else. Take pictures, a lot of pictures. If you do your part right those lenses will provide you with great images and great memories down the road.
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You don't need pricey gear to get good photos. Take the trip.
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As I am working in the photo business I have access to the whole Leica System (S, M) anytime for photography in my home city. So thats no problem at all

It was more a decision regarding my travel setup.

Traveing to places you want to go and visit before you can't. Thats the ideal for me. And besides u can always buy the same set up if you miss it so much. All u need is the money and last time i checkeed thats still being made (maybe a little slower or less of it).

If i had the proposition to sell gear and do a trip like that (can't because my equipment belongs to our family as it was my grandfathers). Ide part with the lenses and buy some voigtlander stuff to fill in where the holes are. Or always the one camera one lens option. Works fantastic when traveling i feel.

Enjoy your trip and hope you get some nice shots as im sure you will.
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that zeiss and cv look like a nice travel kit
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This is one heck of a photo. Nice.

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You don't need pricey gear to get good photos. Take the trip.
Agree 1000%. However, on the assumption that one would want to keep some of the kit, my choice would have been to ditch that M9 and every lens except either the 35 or the 50, depending on how much more money would be needed for the trip. A film M with a 35 or 50 lens is really all one needs.

As an alternative, if necessary to get even further travel-wise (and I agree with thegman about the deathbed thing - well put indeed), I'd have sold it all and bought an FM2 and a 50.

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I've used my cameras to buy food and pay rent when times got tough.
But I've always kept at least one (my M4 with 50mm DR 'Cron) which I will not sell.

Right now I'm riding the fine edge of just about being able to make a living off of photo enough to take care of everything. So I keep my digital gear for work but it's not the stuff I really love.

It's been a hard last few years of severe ups and downs but overall, the direction has been up. There has been more gain than loss, I guess, at least philosophically.

If I had my way, I'd sell the digital camera and all the lenses associated with it, then work just with my two film cameras. Problem is, I wouldn't get much out of all the gear I'd be selling so it's really not worth it to make that jump. I've done it several times before but the market has forced me back into ownership and use of a digital. No problem, I'll just have to work harder to get where I want to be.

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Travelled with Leicas for 40+ years.

But then, I don't buy lenses I can't afford to keep.

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I guess the trick may be to never buy anything unless you are sure you can always sell it for what you paid. Have a good trip, and I hope you still have some camera gear to explore these exotic places.

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A decision that is right for you.
Not me.Someone offered to buy my M2.
The amount offered would easily allowed me a DSLR,
maybe an extra lens.A complex plastic mess that
would be camera of the week.

Euphoria followed by regrets.
You state you are in the photo business.
Guess you and many others here,
don't appreciate Leica equipment.

It may need services, adjustments,
all good precision tools and products do.
It also lasts almost indefinitely, the lenses,
the film bodies.
My M3 since 1967.
Never a battery. Not one.
In batteries for my digitals,since 2005,
a cost of a few services for Ziggy. (M3)
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A decision that is right for you.
Not me.Someone offered to buy my M2.
The amount offered would easily allowed me a DSLR,
maybe an extra lens.A complex plastic mess that
would be camera of the week.

Euphoria followed by regrets.
You state you are in the photo business.
Guess you and many others here,
don't appreciate Leica equipment
Wow, he sells some Leica gear tO finance a dream trip and gets judged as not appreciating Leica gear....
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I would rather see interesting places than see interesting lenses. But that may just be me.
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Have a good trip. Equipment is not the most important thing in life.
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Travelled with Leicas for 40+ years.
But then, I don't buy lenses I can't afford to keep.

Cheers,

R.
Good advice .
My "investment" in Leica isn`t much.
A couple of film bodies and a few lenses .
Plenty of other things I`d sell if I had to, but they stay.
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My wife has said on occasion that she thinks I'd rather sell one of my testicles before parting with a Leica lens.

That's not true, of course...although I haven't needed to put the decision to the test as yet..... (!)
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that zeiss and cv look like a nice travel kit
Yes, I agree. That ZM 35/2.8 is such a fine lens. Not tried the new CV 50/1.5 but on looks alone it rocks.
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I have only two Leica lenses and I look at further ones in the shop window...
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If its the right thing to do for you well done cameras and lenses come and go nothing you can't buy again if you change your mind in the future.
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Wow, he sells some Leica gear tO finance a dream trip and gets judged as not appreciating Leica gear....
Not to mention that he also kept some Leica gear, too.
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I have no issue with your choices... you sold great lenses and then bought great lenses...and now have the cash you need. Win / Win IMO.
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Euphoria followed by regrets.
You state you are in the photo business.
Guess you and many others here,
don't appreciate Leica equipment.
He's still using Leica equipment...
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He's still using Leica equipment...
Yes, I LOVE(!!) Leica gear (otherwise I would have the wrong job.. I'm selling Leica everyday, nothing else ).
And yes, I'm still using the M2 and M9 - I couldn't imagine an other system than a rangefinder camera.

But as most of you mentioned, it's not everything.
To make some great experiences while traviling is more important (for me) than having the best gear.
And of course the Zeiss and the VC are not bad at all. I know it is the right decision for me, I was just interested in what you guys have done.
The different reactions are very interesting.
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Travelled with Leicas for 40+ years.

But then, I don't buy lenses I can't afford to keep.

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Given that I love to travel I'd have sold the lenses.. they are great lenses.. the ones you kept are also great lenses.. enjoy the trip!
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My wife has said on occasion that she thinks I'd rather sell one of my testicles before parting with a Leica lens.

That's not true, of course...although I haven't needed to put the decision to the test as yet..... (!)
A pragmatic approach would be: What sees more use?
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I predict in the future you will have more money and repurchasing identical Leica lenses will be an option. You did not make an irreversible decision.

Enriching your life through travel is more important than any brand.
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Why so condescending?
Not condescending. Different world picture. I'd hesitate to buy any lens (or camera) that I really wanted to use, if I thought I might have more use for the money in another way, later, and might have to sell the lens. This is why (a) I have comparatively few Leica lenses and (b) I've travelled a lot.

As the OP said, things change in life. For most of my life, I've been sufficiently ready for things to change that I've seldom needed to sell my tools in order to work.

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Travelled with Leicas for 40+ years.

But then, I don't buy lenses I can't afford to keep.

Cheers,

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OUCH!!

Travel close and far. The gear doesn't make for great photo, the photog does.
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Not condescending. Different world picture. I'd hesitate to buy any lens (or camera) that I really wanted to use, if I thought I might have more use for the money in another way, later, and might have to sell the lens. This is why (a) I have comparatively few Leica lenses and (b) I've travelled a lot.

As the OP said, things change in life. For most of my life, I've been sufficiently ready for things to change that I've seldom needed to sell my tools in order to work.

Cheers,

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There you go folks from a journeyman photographer. Read and learn -
Albeit a journeyman photographer who is far from financially well to do, because he has chosen for decades to take his rewards in travel and experiences rather than in money and material goods... But I own a house, and some cars and motorcycles, and I eat well.

Thank'ee for the kind words, regardless!

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