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View Poll Results: What's your position on Leica LTM (not Leica specific), in light of an M?
I had/have both (M and LTM) and prefer the LTM 75 14.79%
I had/have both (M and LTM) and prefer the M 151 29.78%
I have both (M and LTM) and like them equally 154 30.37%
Only ever had an LTM and need look no further 69 13.61%
Only ever had an M and need look no further (was just here by accident or curiosity) 53 10.45%
I have no interest in either (M or LTM) - either prima facie or a priori 5 0.99%
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Old 01-20-2019   #241
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What is the lens on it?
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Old 01-21-2019   #242
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What is the lens on it?
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it's the nickel Voigtländer Heliar 50mm 2.0 in LTM mount. Only 600 made, very sharp and very nicely constructed. A future collectible I'd say. Somehow they never sold quick, I think Stephen still has them in stock. I got mine from him some five, six years ago.
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Your Nickel 50/2 looks very beautiful, Johan. I have the older version black Heliar 50/2. Optically, they may be identical.
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Old 01-30-2019   #244
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I have a IIIc and once the beam splitter was changed is actually easy to focus. But the biggest advantage is the lighter weight of this little rig which when it comes to the outdoors I tend to grab first.
If it's indoors shooting I'll grab the M7 anytime for its ease of use in low light and excellent exposure.
I have a IIIf with a new (well now three year old) beam splitter and I find it very easy to focus - and I've always wondered whether it might actually be easier to focus than a M. Always wanted a M2 or M6, but never pulled the trigger. At my age with my eyesight perhaps I should leave well enough alone?
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Old 01-30-2019   #245
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I have a IIIf with a new (well now three year old) beam splitter and I find it very easy to focus - and I've always wondered whether it might actually be easier to focus than a M. Always wanted a M2 or M6, but never pulled the trigger. At my age with my eyesight perhaps I should leave well enough alone?
I do find the Ms to be easier to focus in low light, even after I had the beam-splitter replaced on my II.
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Old 02-20-2019   #246
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I like them both equally.

I have owned and used a Leica II, and now a Leica IIIf RD ST. Since I mostly shoot black and white film and process it and scan it myself, the glass available for screw mount is more than adequate. Right now my IIIf is wedded to a collapsible Summicron and I do not see that changing any time soon. From portraits to landscapes I am happy very happy with that lens. Youxin did miracles for the IIIf body and it is super smooth. With the SBOOI finder, I do not feel like I am making any compromises with the screw mount camera.

Ah, but the M. I have owned and used two M4s, an M2, a digital M-P, and an M3. I have used the very best and newest glass like the 50 Summilux ASPH, 21mm Super-Elmar ASPH, and 35 Summicron ASPH, and I have used rigid Summicrons, DR Summicrons, 90mm 2.8 Elmarits, and 21mm Super-Angulons. The newer glass is lovely on the digital M, but a bit silly for black and white film. I let go of most of the newer lenses and now I use a DS M3 from 1956 with a Rigid Summicron and the newer E46 90mm Elmarit.

The thing about the LTM is that trimming film is annoying. The thing about the M is that by comparison it is a whale. Both are are beautiful machines both to use and to behold.

If I could only keep one, though, it would be the IIIf RD ST.
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Old 02-27-2019   #247
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I've had a Leica M2 and a Leica IIIa and I'll be completely honest. I had way more fun with the IIIa than the M2. I got rid of the M2 and the IIIa and I regret not keeping the IIIa way more. I used both with the 3.5cm Elmar.
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Old 03-03-2019   #248
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I like them equally but then the LTM with a SBOOI-finder mounted (brightline 50mm).

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I like them equally but then the LTM with a SBOOI-finder mounted (brightline 50mm).
Erik, I agree completely. I actually prefer framing with the SBOOI than with the frame lines in my M3 viewfinder. The SBOOI is a phenomenal (pun intended!) piece of kit.

Life looks brighter through the SBOOI.
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Old 03-03-2019   #250
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Yes, a SBOOI turns your "primitive" LTM into a sophisticated piece of equipment.

If anybody has a SBOOI in black, please sell it to me, thank you.

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Old 03-03-2019   #251
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I’ve had Alan Starkie paint a few for me, so nice in black!

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Old 03-03-2019   #252
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The IIIc in black is gorgeousness.
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Old 06-04-2019   #253
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I have both (M and LTM) and like them equally.





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Old 11-19-2019   #254
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Have them both (III, IIIf, M3, M6), like them all equally.

If I were to have just one, it'd be the one I don't yet have: an M5 (they fit my hands better).
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Old 02-09-2020   #255
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I love my m9, but on film i prefer the ltm body, now i found a promising leotax elite that is amazing. Can´t wait to test it in real use.
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Old 02-09-2020   #256
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Leica II in black w/collap. Summicron plus SBOOI
I bought an M2 to maybe check out the newer
glass, but it's so BIG.
A trick on loading LTMs: use the Leica locking
cable release on B, remove lens. It's easy to
load with the shutter open! No trimming even
with bulk loaded.
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I've had both cameras off and on over the years, dozens in fact. I think my problem with using the LTM cameras has mostly been that I don't take them seriously enough and want to pretend it's a casual snapshot camera whereas they actually require some thoughtful consideration to be used successfully.

The way I've over come it, somewhat, is to be a bit harsh and leave all the other cameras at home and then do a sort of prayer-litany not unlike using a view camera where you follow a mental checklist and then be ready for serendipities. We've been so conditioned by modern cameras to wait for the "decisive moment" but we forget that we need to do some decisive preparation first!

They do get a lot faster with use and you do adapt to seeing through the finder, picking one of the only five possible outdoor exposures, and occasionally zone focusing when you don't have a good subject for RF focusing.

Now I'm a bit of a bigot and see the enlarged RF window and separate viewfinder(s) as a large advantage over M-bodies and SLRs.
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Been using a IIIc for about six months now, and having decent LTM glass, it's been really fun to work with. The M's have just been sitting. I'm sure I'll go back to them, but the size of the LTM body, and it's jewel like construction, really have made using a Barnack a joy.

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I love my IIIc - it's compact, well built, and beautiful to look at. I think of my M6 along the same lines, except it's much more "user friendly". As silly as it sounds, I shoot my IIIc to enjoy the "quirks" of shooting it.
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Even with the collap. Summicron
the Leica II is comfortable in my
front pants pocket....for years now
and covers 90% of my work
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