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Old 01-05-2018   #1
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You have $3000, what would you buy?

I don't have the $3000 yet. Maybe never

The new CL is not a full frame camera. However, it is brand new, and it may have some advantages over older digital cameras.
A M9 with new sensor may be an attractive alternative if you don't need high ISO performance.
The M8 is great overall, but it has a 33% crop and is aging (gracefully).
The Q requires taste for the 28mm view, It is one lens that cannot change or add to. Saves money?

Another source for burning $3000 may be a Hologon 16/8 lens or a Hasselblad SWC camera?
Of course, the other alternative is to keep the $3000 safe in the bank!
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If 3K$ is available, I would get M-E new sensor, sell it, add little more and get NiB M-D.
I like to have film M and digital M to look the same and operate the same.

Or add little more and get used M240. To have two film M, two digital M and two M lenses .

Or just get 28 Cron...

Personally, I have zero 3K$ taste for any other cameras, lenses, manufactures. They are amazing one grand or less cameras, lenses.
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If I had not just purchased an M10, I would have used the money as a partial payment for it.
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Who accepts partial payment towards the M10?
I guess, the $3k could be the start of a savings campaign!
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Raid, how about a Holga? You'll have $2960.01 left over. And in your part of the world the light will be perfect for it.

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doubt you can get a Q for $3k.
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Might be a Bessa R3A. Or just a better film scanner.
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After the new CL locked up twice on me while testing it at the Leica store, and having the sales rep saying 'must have been something you did', it reminded me why I will never buy another new digital Leica.
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I think you can get an M240 for around that amount.
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I would put a down payment on some travel

If it has to be Photo-gear, The Contax 645 system has been calling again.
$3000 would make it time to pick up the phone!
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I tried the new CL for a morning and liked it very much. It's a tidy design that "just works."

You'll need another $1800 for the 23mm, which is the lens I'd pair with it.

The 11-23mm TL floats my boat, too, but I'd start with the small 23mm. I'm not that fond of carrying small cameras with larger lenses.

I bought a used X-E2 to fill this space last month. I still sorting it out - it's fiddly to operate and its images are erratic, ranging from awful-to-excellent, being quite demanding to fix in post. It has not been that satisfying, but it is 6x cheaper used than a new CL kit.

A modern IIIc/50 Elmar equivalent travel camera remains my nirvana. A 'full frame" that is still smaller and fits the hand better than these croppers. But, the CL is, finally, close.

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Instead of the Hassy SWC, go with a Rollei 6008 and Schneider 40mm F3.5. But I thought you already had the SWC (unless you’ve mentioned elsewhere you sold it).

If memory serves you live in a good state for firearms. I'll undoubtedly get flack for this but you could get a Weatherby Accumark Mk V rifle chambered in 257 Magnum (or 6.5-300) and have a 1000 yard capable rifle for hunting. Optics will cost you extra but you could do the whole package around $3K.

As far as camera analogies go, I'd say that rifle is like a Hasselblad 500 CX with a Zeiss 110mm F2. A sweet shooter.
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None of the above?
But, that said, If I had to spend it on equipment then probably some nice used 4X5 field camera and some film.
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I looked at both the CL & Q. I thought long and hard and came to the conclusion that neither met my needs or desires. Since I already have Leica M lenses the only reasonable conclusion to go from a Leica M6 to a digital Leica would be the Leica M10. However, the 7k is a major drawback.
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if it's gotta be digital, then an M240 with a warranty.

if it's anything: a Leica M2/3/4 + Summicron lens, and a Rolleiflex
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I looked at both the CL & Q. I thought long and hard and came to the conclusion that neither met my needs or desires. Since I already have Leica M lenses the only reasonable conclusion to go from a Leica M6 to a digital Leica would be the Leica M10. However, the 7k is a major drawback.
For me, RF is what makes Leica compelling. For AF and P&S there are many good options for a lot less. They may not have the minimalist gestalt but they can be made to function that way.

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I'd like some piece of mind, how much do I have left after that?

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I'd like some piece of mind, how much do I have left after that?

If you achieve it, you won't care how much you have left.
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$3000 USD? 1/3 for more paper, darkroom chems & film, the remainder for travel
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Only buy what you absolutely need to perform a specific task or function..or just get what you want...for fun in the sun..
3K..is enough to get you something..but not enough to change the playing field..like a Thambar or some thing like that..
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I suggest lensrentals, the methadone treatment for GAS.
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With all your Lenses Raid, Why not buy a full frame universal Back?

The M240 with evf would probably be your best bet as it can pull duty as a Rangefinder as well.
It's your best move.
The CL is cute but it's aps and still new and overpriced.
You could buy a CPO m240 from Leica store or Popflash(?) if a warranty is important.

Speaking for myself, If I could have the M240 and VF, It would eliminate the need for nearly all the other digital cameras in my set... Simplicity is worth $3000



I'm thinking of all your Sonnars and also the Rollei 1.4/85 and 1.4/35 lenses.
You've used them on m4/3. Using them on Full frame would change the way one thinks of these lenses.
Full frame Mirrorless is a real "Game Changer".
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Me personally, I already have cameras I don't get to use. I just haven't been able to get out and take photos lately. And if I did, it would eat into the time I have to develop film, which is already zero. I have no idea what I would use it for. Maybe a trip for the wife and I. Then I could take some more photos I wouldn't have time to develop, much less print.

EDIT: I didn't check any boxes since I don't need anything and don't really want anything Leica. Just not for me.

But WOW WOW WOW, Raid. Over on the MF subforum, I found you this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-LINHOF...396?rmvSB=true which obviously is a must have for you.
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I'd invest half in the DOW, one quarter in a very aggressive investment, and keep the other quarter to buy a XE-3.

Once your investments grow to the point and Leica comes out with a CL 3 (full frame) buy it.

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doubt you can get a Q for $3k.
A well used Q maybe?
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Raid, how about a Holga? You'll have $2960.01 left over. And in your part of the world the light will be perfect for it.

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AHolga fits under "another model".
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I'm thinking of all your Sonnars and also the Rollei 1.4/85 and 1.4/35 lenses.
You've used them on m4/3. Using them on Full frame would change the way one thinks of these lenses.
Full frame Mirrorless is a real "Game Changer".
Food for thought! I would love to be able to use my old (excellent) lenses on a full frame digital camera for sure.
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Instead of the Hassy SWC, go with a Rollei 6008 and Schneider 40mm F3.5. But I thought you already had the SWC (unless you’ve mentioned elsewhere you sold it).

If memory serves you live in a good state for firearms. I'll undoubtedly get flack for this but you could get a Weatherby Accumark Mk V rifle chambered in 257 Magnum (or 6.5-300) and have a 1000 yard capable rifle for hunting. Optics will cost you extra but you could do the whole package around $3K.

As far as camera analogies go, I'd say that rifle is like a Hasselblad 500 CX with a Zeiss 110mm F2. A sweet shooter.
I still have and use my SWC. I was thinking of using two SWC together
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AHolga fits under "another model".
Holgas seem to make the race - 87.88%

With your lens collection I would buy a Sony A7x Body.
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I'd buy more film. Then maybe some underpriced film gear. Then buy more film. Some developer. More film.
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I'd buy another $3000 worth of Visa or Master Card stock and make money off you guys running up your credit cards buying cameras. ;~)
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what are your current needs?
Who said anything about "needs" ?

This is RFF after all. GAS rules.
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An M-A, just for fun (somehow I feel like I will eventually end up with one). Or a 35mm Cron. Or a bucket of film.
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Someone just put a M240 in the classified for $2700... not associated with this sale but it has ignited a small flame of GAS under me. Kinda wish I had not looked at it...
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Someone just put a M240 in the classified for $2700... not associated with this sale but it has ignited a small flame of GAS under me. Kinda wish I had not looked at it...
I have $2000 ready to be spent and not $3000. I would otherwise consider maybe a M240. In these times, $2000 don't get you much. Years ago, if I had $1000, I could have a shopping spree for equipment.
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I have $2000 ready to be spent and not $3000. I would otherwise consider maybe a M240...
Sell M8 and make it 3000 for M240.
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I have had this thought! Or sell my 75/1.4 Lux.
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ah, in that case, i would get all sorts of things.

really right stuff or gitzo tripods
a linhof technika or technikardan
8x10 view camera
hasselblad x-pan/fuji tx
fuji gf670 or mamiya 7ii
nikon f, lnib
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pricey photobooks!
an alpa 6x9
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linhof technorama or fuji gx617
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photoshop, digital printing, archiving courses
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