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Airlines-- carry on changes, again.
Old 10-24-2008   #1
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Airlines-- carry on changes, again.

Just saw a notice that Continental reduced carry on by six inches and wants to start measuring, forcing you to check and pay. Right after I bought a roller carry on to stash my cameras, they reduced the allowable size by six inches then, and though my bag fits the short way in the overhead, now they began to check and charge, they seem to be looking for more ways to force you to check another bag.

I have already bought a ticket, at the new higher prices, so I guess the next step is to look for a newer bag, and smaller kit.

I had to check carry on twice in Europe as they were weighing it at check in, and their limits there seemed to be the weight of the carry on empty plus a roll of film. Results were a repair bill for a camera I could not get in to my hands until I bought another bag at duty free. They never mess with duty free, they often make more on that than the flight.

And, I did complain to TSA years ago that someone was opening luggage in Newark, even after it had been checked and sealed by TSA at point of origin, without leaving a notice in the bag, or for that matter latching the bag shut. Airlines also do not cover anything checked against loss except clothes, and the bag. Perhaps I should check ebay?

Any way to get their attention?

I cannot see Fed Ex to international destinations, it was $35 one way to New Jersey for my Leica body.

I understand photographers may be allowed one more carry on bag, but no one at the airport understands that.

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A messenger style of bag will be considered as a lady's bag and normally don't count. Never had a single problem by doing that in Europe, they don't even look at it.
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I just returned from Istanbul via Delta, and had no problems carrying, x-raying, and hand
checking my camera backpack. I always travel fairly light and keep my gear to a minimum.

Leaving Istanbul, everyone had to go through airport security twice.

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I travel frequently and the new rules are indeed a hassle. It's actually one of the reason why I switched over to rangefinders recently as I couldn't get my SLR gear around properly (especially in Europe and US). Now, I squeeze a rangefinder body and one to two lenses in my laptop bag and get by. If you travel with more than one small bag, then be prepared for the hassle. Worst if you have have any Liquid, Aerosol or Gas canisters with you.

As for anything of value to bring back with you from the Americas, it's actually better to ship it back separately than to check it in your luggage.

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Look for a smaller bag, perhaps, but I'd look for another airline. When BAA shrunk the size of carry-ons allowed through their airports following the liquid explosives scare in 2006, it was pressure from passengers (who went out of their way to avoid transiting Heathrow or Gatwick) that forced them back to the IATA standard size for cabin baggage.
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My solution - stop traveling. Screw the airlines. There's more than enough to photograph around home. Of course, I do live in the New York area, so YMMV.

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This has long been the case in most of Europe, and with non-US airlines. I've found that as long as you respect the size limits, weight is almost never a problem.

At the risk of sounding anti-American, when I've stayed inside the European limits (as far as I recall, 7x14x22 inches, but that's purely from memory) and flown to the US, I've often been amazed at the vast portmanteaux that some people seem to regard as suitable for carry-on and that they are allowed to carry on, sometimes with the result that there's no room for other people's reasonable-sized carry-on bags, which have to be checked as a result.

Wear a photographer's vest to off-load stuff into the pockets, if they do query weight. That's always worked for me.

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Thanks, I guess I and perhaps a few others, are good for a rant, once in a while. "New" rules in effect Nov. 1.

I also Carry an empty carry on bag inside of my roller, so if something has to be moved, I adjust.

Paris used to have the best, strong, with a good pair of straps all around, $6 water resistant duty free nylon bag. I heard some people actually put duty free in them.

Paris and Prague were the two PITA airports, both Orly and Rossy, but the upshot of it is, you never know until you get on if your bag is going to be measured and weighed. I have never seen anyone have to submit to the carry on sizing frames, it seems to be mainly at the check in, and is highly variable. Prague once charged me more than the price of the ticket for excess baggage as I was staying in Paris more than 24 hours, so the limit was less. There were 7 bags on the plane when I arrived, but in truth, the bag was heavy.

Roger, I think you are correct, the new "enforced" (whatever that will mean) carry on is 41" total dimensions, and I realize some people do really try and go crazy with the carry on "portmanteaus". Rules may be different if you are traveling internationally, but I was charged for the American leg of the flight for an extra 5 lbs. If they start weighing me, lord knows how much the bill. People arrive with boarding passes and last trip I checked in curb side and went to the gate.

Just hate to not know what is really what. All the roller bags basically look the same, and I prefer to have mine look like "non" camera gear and a little beat up. I also wonder if you get your extra baggage charges back if they misplace your luggage?

I think mine is the older standard, but looks close enough to normally not draw attention, and fits in overheads the correct way. No one has questioned the size.

I mostly travel alone and have some medical needs, Cepap and meds, so it all begins to add up.

I do now travel less and generally for longer times. I pay more for more direct flights, because of the aggro.

This may just be another "new" news story, but it does say it takes effect Nov. 1, so thanks for the one week warning, if you read the news.

I will have to dig out the link to the agreement allowing photographers an extra bag, if it comes to that I'll print it out again.

Individuals at airlines have ranged from quite reasonable to the guy at Rossy who was trying to check my cameras and film, telling me "well, you are obviously professional, you must have insurance," and I kept my mouth shut thinking he has medical insurance but just the same does not want any broken bones. On the tiny planes, flight attendants have usually been nice enough to stow my gear up front rather than gate check it.

Sorry, rant two. I think I am off to buy yet another carry on bag.

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It was ridiculous what some people took into the cabin as "carry on luggage". And then there was no space in the overhead bins for half of the stuff, and the attendants pushing bag upon bag to "solve it for you", you could only hope that your things survive in the bag.
Maybe this will help, actually, the new regulation?
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I had to check carry on twice in Europe as they were weighing it at check in, and their limits there seemed to be the weight of the carry on empty plus a roll of film.
I went all carry-on flying to Paris. A smallish carry-on bag for clothes etc, and a Dome satchel (803). Coming back, I couldn't take the carry-on bag, but the satchel wasn't a problem (fortunately, they didn't weigh it). I agree with Roger that some people get away with bringing on all kinds of large boxes, but I deliberately travel light, to be mobile, and to avoid loss or theft. I suspect the Continental change brings their size down to non-American airlines. In the past, the size limits on American Airlines, say, were more generous than on Air Canada.
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At the risk of sounding anti-American, when I've stayed inside the European limits (as far as I recall, 7x14x22 inches, but that's purely from memory) and flown to the US, I've often been amazed at the vast portmanteaux that some people seem to regard as suitable for carry-on and that they are allowed to carry on, sometimes with the result that there's no room for other people's reasonable-sized carry-on bags, which have to be checked as a result.
My all-time favorite (on a flight up to Anchorage) was a color television, which the new owner was trying to cram into the overhead bin in the next row. I adopted the crash/brace position and waited for the picture tube to implode.
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I just finished a trip to the Rocky Mountains and I'm pretty fed up with airports. On my way there, they scanned me, frisked me and wanded me.. and when I asked for my film to be hand inspected (as you are allowed) I had a whole line up of inspectors looking at me weird as if they had never heard of such a thing. Finally I politely asked for the supervisor to settle the matter. After glaring at me she agreed. So I handed over my film, they started swabbing it for explosives, and I proceeded through the magic terrorist detector rectangle. As they where frisking me I saw my film, all 20 rolls now out of the cardboard, out of their film containers.. COMING OUT OF THE XRAY SCANNER!!!.... [email protected]#($*&#@!($ I mean what the HELL is the point of a hand inspection, which I explained was to prevent Xray damage.. if they're just going to put it through the scanner when I'm not looking anyways. I've gotten over the fact that ridiculous rules and regulations are here to stay in the airline industry, but at least FOLLOW the rules you make and know them. I really shouldnt know their own rules better than they do. I also realized that getting angry would be a one way ticket to an angry probing.. so I decided to take the passive aggresive route and take my sweet time packing every roll of film back into its container, then back into it's cardboard box while the line of little bins coming out of the x ray machine ground to a halt and waited for me. So yeah.. that's my story of my 3 hour flight within Canada.. I didnt even cross any borders on this one.
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Hard to prepare for rules which seem to change at will, and are not understood by the folks working there.

I believe we are allowed one carry on and a "personal" bag, and there are some exceptions which no one at the airport seem to know about.

It is much easier when I travel with a lady friend, they treat me nicer just being with her.

Has anyone used the "photographer" rule which allows another bag?

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Has anyone used the "photographer" rule which allows another bag?
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What 'photographer' rule? I'm not familiar with that one. Which airlines apply it?

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I find the less I take with me as carry on, the nicer the TSA people are. When I did a 3 month tour of Vietnam for a photoethnography course, I took an F5XB with one M body and 3 lenses. A cheapo laptop backpack with laptop and film and other small stuff. That's it, I had one checked bag which was just a cordura duffle that was barely filled as I knew I could just buy cheap clothing in Vietnam when I got there.

In Newark I made sure to ask the TSA people to hand check my 60 rolls of 35mm which I told a white lie to and said it was all 1600 and faster. (It was really just 400 except for 4 rolls of neopan 1600

I handed them my domke x-ray pouch full of film before stepping through the metal detector and they gladly took it while I waited for everything else to get x-rayed.

There was no issues at all. However, I did discard all the cardboard and plastic canisters before getting to the airport and had all the film in ziploc bags labbled with a sharpie to designate what speed film was in each bag.

It took about 5 mins, all smiles. Then I proceded to that funny restaurant with all the raw meat hanging in a glass freezer room in front of it and had breakfast.
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What 'photographer' rule? I'm not familiar with that one. Which airlines apply it?

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I guess I was right about it not being well known. ;-)

I found a link and printed it out last year, but did not need to use it, I keep some stuff packed in certain bags, and though I did a quick search, I did not find it yet.

Reservations, boarding passes, hotel and travel vouchers, etc. am so glad computers made paper redundant. ;-)

The link basically said that the transportation folks had reached an agreement that allowed photographers an additional carry on. Being a year later, and my mind a year older, I am not sure where I stashed the information. Supposed to be all airlines, though as I recall it was a US agreement.

The Continental thing popped up on my browser the other day, and I have heard nothing since. They very well might overlook my black roller bag, as I am sure it quite looks like the newer models unless you put them next to each other, but it is a bit of a crap shoot, so it is probably another $150 out of pocket.

I will look about again today for both the link and the print out.

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[quote=shimo-kitasnap;919829]I find the less I take with me as carry on, the nicer the TSA people are. When I did a 3 month tour of Vietnam for a photoethnography course, I took an F5XB with one M body and 3 lenses. A cheapo laptop backpack with laptop and film and other small stuff. That's it, I had one checked bag which was just a cordura duffle that was barely filled as I knew I could just buy cheap clothing in Vietnam when I got there.

In Newark I made sure to ask the TSA people to hand check my 60 rolls of 35mm which I told a white lie to and said it was all 1600 and faster. (It was really just 400 except for 4 rolls of neopan 1600 quote]

Film is almost a novelty for the TSA folks now, I did have a 120 roll that had red paper, and the checker had never seen 120 film, you can guess what they mistook it for.

The US, by policy, or such, is supposed to grant anyone a hand check for film.

They used to just visually inspect it, last trip they wiped every roll, and I do not go crazy about it, as I have heard all the experts go on about the physics of it, but I have had two rolls in the past 20 years in which the processor said it had been damaged by X rays, and I had an odd problem with B&W we never figured out, so if they have to xray, there is nothing I can do.

Still, I ask politely and though years ago I handed them the film in a ziploc, which they promptly put through the X ray in JFK, other than breaking in to my checked bags, I have had little problems in Newark. I find JFK a bit more confusing. I have been through them about 70 times counting both directions.

Your assignment sounds terrific, my well traveled photographer pal and sometimes model is in Cambodia right now, and having some shirts made for me there. She has clothes in probably half a dozen cities now. When I travel, I try to travel light, but when you have extended trips, or if you are serious about photography, you have to have fall backs. I leave my carry on partly packed. If regular clothing sizes fit, and you are coming to the US, you can just about buy clothes here and toss the socks and undies, cheaper than laundry at a hotel.

I took one warm leather jacket to Iceland and a sweater, and you know the zipper had to break on the jacket, so standing outside for an hour waiting for a geyser was numbing. If you take only one pair of pants, someone on the plane will dump their coffee on them before you arrive, and while there is only so much clothes can do for me, I like to have one jacket and perhaps one tie.

I used to carry two full Domke bags +, and one reason for RF's is to go lighter and still get good results. If I think MF, I think Fuji RF's now.


Destinations offer different challenges.

If you are familiar with a place, as I am sure Roger often is, from his various travels, you can make other choices, and am sure he might not lose a hand if he has to reach in to Frances' camera bag, if he is quick.

Regards, John

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Dear John,

What 'photographer' rule? I'm not familiar with that one. Which airlines apply it?

Thanks,

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Found the URL, it is from 2003 I think, but I just recently heard about it, have no idea if it is still in effect, I did not realize it was five years old. Copyright on the page is 2008 though.

http://www.asmp.org/tips/tsa.php

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Pack lenses etc in the carry on. Pad with clothing. Put the clothing in the roller bag that is checked. Carry a messenger bag as a purse
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Just checked with Continental, they actually did not know the date that was announced for the new rule, and I asked if they were going to measure the bags, they told me they thought TSA was going to check the bags on the belt, which I find hard to believe, as they would need a special line for Continental, and what aboiut people flying several carriers, etc. Person who reminded me of the size change was unaware of any rule for photographers. The copyright on the web site is 2008.

Confusion will rule, off this week to see if I can get a good price at AAA travel for a bag.

I have a LL Bean backpack suitcase as well which is now six inches too big, in my younger days I went carry on only to Paris, but the planes were all bigger, and I was also traveling by train.

I normally try to pack camera cases inside of carry on, and I also use lens wraps.

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they have a measurement for under the seat is that now listed as smaller?
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There is no special allowance for "photographers". They allow one personal item (small bag like a purse) and one carry-on. I worked for an airline for 11 years. They don't do it to make money, they do it to expedite boarding.l
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My solution - stop traveling. Screw the airlines. There's more than enough to photograph around home. Of course, I do live in the New York area, so YMMV.

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Yep, me too. Screw 'em. I take the train or drive. Or, I don't go. I avoid air travel now as much as I can.
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Last time I flew, they ran out of food before they got to my row. Next time I'm taking Amtrak.
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Yep, me too. Screw 'em. I take the train or drive. Or, I don't go. I avoid air travel now as much as I can.
Yeah, me too. But having said that, the wife and I have flown to Toronto a couple times, and will go to France in the spring, nontheless. These new baggage problems are a real heads-up. 41" total combined dimensions? That means that even our official 7 x 14 x 22" carry-ons are 2" oversize.

Is this for real? We will go to AAA next week and see what they know about this.
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FYI, here is the TSA link
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1248.shtm

They allow an extra bag but the airlines don't have to.

You may carry one (1) bag of photographic equipment in addition to one (1) carry-on and one (1) personal item through the screening checkpoint. The additional bag must conform to your air carrier's carry-on restrictions for size and weight. Please confirm your air carrier's restrictions prior to arriving at the airport.

Air carriers may or may not allow the additional carry-on item on their aircraft. Please check with your air carrier prior to arriving at the airport.

Our screening equipment will not affect digital cameras and electronic image storage cards.


and they have a statement about film there too:
To facilitate hand-inspection, remove your undeveloped film from the canister and pack in a clear plastic bag.
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Last time I flew, they ran out of food before they got to my row. Next time I'm taking Amtrak.
Sarcasm?

I could care less about the food, although I'm sure that is emblematic of the state of the airlines to some extent. I had more than enough after seven years of 150K per year air travel, mostly domestic, and after 9-11, it just degraded and degraded and finally got to the point where I dreaded the twice-a-week schlep to the airport. Got tired of having my bag rifled through, sometimes small electronic items missing, airlines and TSA pointing fingers at each other and neither taking responsibility, unacceptable levels of bullying by knuckle-dragging TSA goons, and so on. Enough. I quit a job that I loved, which paid quite a bit, and a large part of the reason was the way the airlines and airline security is run these days.

This, in my opinion, is common:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/business/09road.html

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/travel/...gage_1123.html

I have zero use for the TSA.

EDIT: Whoops, missed this fun one...

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archive...ding_lugg.html
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No, I'm serious. While the airline food is bad, having NO food available is inexcusable. I've had to settle for my third choice on Amtrak, but I've NEVER been forced to sit for 6 hours without anything to eat.

Next week, I'm taking Amtrak from here to southern California. Sure, it costs more and takes a lot of time, but at least US Airways is denied any of my money this trip. And as an added bonus, I don't need to deal with the security theater that is the TSA.

What did we expect when "Useless Air" merged with "America's Worst"? The most incompetent clueless excuse for an airline, bar none...
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No, I'm serious. While the airline food is bad, having NO food available is inexcusable. I've had to settle for my third choice on Amtrak, but I've NEVER been forced to sit for 6 hours without anything to eat.

Next week, I'm taking Amtrak from here to southern California. Sure, it costs more and takes a lot of time, but at least US Airways is denied any of my money this trip. And as an added bonus, I don't need to deal with the security theater that is the TSA.

What did we expect when "Useless Air" merged with "America's Worst"? The most incompetent clueless excuse for an airline, bar none...
I'm hip. When I've traveled on Amtrak, the food has actually been quite good. My wife and I took an overnighter from Albuquerque to Chicago several years ago - got a sleeper. Fun experience, not what I expected, and it does require a bit of a pioneering spirit, but it came with three meals a day in the dining car and the food was fantastic. Loved it.

I have taken the Wolverine down to Chicago - easy trip, no big gasoline bill (well, gas was $4 a gallon then) and I did not arrive all tired out.

I wish rail travel was more pervasive and common, and that Amtrak got the funding it needed to be a real service. I generally am not in favor of nationalizing industries, but passenger rail travel is pretty much a monopoly by necessity, so if the government is going to do it, they ought to do a better job of funding it. But the Amtrak employees are top-notch, the best. They care - it shows.

Don't forget you can get frequent discount codes for Amtrak on flyertalk.com.
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anybody ever use those padded x-ray film pouches? and how would you get it through inspection?
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anybody ever use those padded x-ray film pouches? and how would you get it through inspection?
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In the USA, the TSA recommends against them. They will show up as something they can't see through in carry-on luggage, which means it is going to be taken out and opened and inspected anyway - might as well just ask for a hand-inspection to begin with. And the electron-beam scanners they use for checked luggage won't be stopped by the lead bags - your film will be cooked.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1035.shtm
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We recommend that you do not place your film in lead-lined bags since the lead bag will have to be hand-inspected.
The photographic industry has a joint agency that actually tests these things, and they issue recommendations to any who want to read them.

http://www.i3a.org/advocacy/itip/

I would advise against lead-lined bags, at least in the US.
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Found the URL, it is from 2003 I think, but I just recently heard about it, have no idea if it is still in effect, I did not realize it was five years old. Copyright on the page is 2008 though.

http://www.asmp.org/tips/tsa.php

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I finally needed this "rule", but my printout was lost, -- I was in First Class yesterday, and they decided at the gate of the connecting flight that only two bags were allowed per passenger, regardless of class.

I had two carry on bags, but I stuffed an extra pair of shorts at the last minute in my Cpap bag, and they said it was no longer exempt as medical equipment, and I carry my wallet, passport, cash in a fanny pack, which they then said was a carry on. Along with cameras in a roller, it made three carry on bags.

I went to the old TSA? link, and it no longer exists, so I suppose someone quietly decided cameras were no longer exempt.

I try to travel first class until I get my knee replaced, but the connecting flight had different rules from point of origin-- plus, my seat back was broken, I kept my mouth shut on that as I did not want to delay the flight for hours longer, as they were busy fixing their phone in the front as it was.

Never had a fanny pack called a carry on. I understand the frustration with carry on bags since they started the crazy add on prices, plus exemptions on weights, and the exemptions for those with the airline's credit card, plus travel class. It was also holding up my pants.

They wanted $200 for 1kg over mass leaving from Mexico a few years back, so I threw out some less than $200 clothes, and had to go to the end of the line and start over twice. Since then, they often do not weigh the bags.

I guess I am flying Forrest Gump airlines, it is like a box of chocolates.

They did miss checking my passport and ticket getting on.

Obviously no longer carrying two MF SLRs -- just a couple of X pros and some pocket cameras.

Roger, I suppose you would motorcycle the three days down to Mexico to avoid flights now?

The original exemption, as I recall, was a negotiation with the Pro Photographers folks with TSA? Probably no chance for a repeat now we really need it.

I had two chances to check it, but I have had items broken any number of times, and luggage lost even more, or broken in to-- I only carry on items I absolutely need -- like cameras, meds, money, probably in that order.

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I was always amazed what people tried to use as carry on. It slowed the boarding and getting off process. Ever have someone hit you with their carry on trying to jam it in the overhand and holding up others trying to board? They didn't get it or only thought of themselves. I have used Spirit airlines where, addition to air fare, most everything is optional. It's quite amazing how fast the boarding process and getting off are with them. My wife and I recently used Spirit to go from Minneapolis to Houston Texas. I prepaid one checked bag, and our seats; our round trip tickets were $386.00 for both of us!

If you get to the gate and have a bag too large, it costs $100.00. Whine and ouch.

I find this a la carte pricing is a benefit to flying.
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I've heard from those more affluent that flying a private chartered aircraft avoids almost all of these hassles. A quick look-around in the plane by the TSA official and you're off and running. Alas, if only a person could afford it.

Regarding the quality/quantity of airline food, one time when flying back home from Austin, TX via Southwest Airlines I got a carryout order of a brisket sandwich and fries from the Salt Lick in Austin's airport; then once airborne proceeded to unpack that baby and slowly eat it with as much gusto as I could muster, with the aroma of barbecue filling the cabin and other passengers eyeing me with jealousy as they munch on their little bags of peanuts and pretzels.

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I went to Germany in Oct 2015 for three weeks. I booked my flight on KLM but Delta actually flew two of the three legs.

1st leg was Atlanta to Amsterdam (Delta). No issues with TSA. I took 30 rolls of B&W film. Had them out of the cardboard boxes (in the plastic cans) in a 1 gal ZipLoc bag. I asked for a hand inspection. No issues. They swabbed two rolls & the bag and gave them back to me - with a smile!

Amsterdam to Berlin (on KLM plane) was a non-issue as we did not have to go through security again. No carry-on issues either.

Returning we flew out of Stuttgart (Delta plane) headed to Atlanta. Again I asked for an hand inspection of my film at Stuttgart - no issues. They did it with a smile!



As to my cameras I carried a Contax IIa with a Voigtlander 25mm & a Zeiss 50mm f/1.5 and my M3 with a ZM 50mm f/2 Plannar & a 90mm f/2.8 Tele-Elmarit. Also I tool my Sekonic L-508 meter & the Voigtlander VC meter.


I packed it all in my Samsonite back pack:



I put a Domke bottom pad in the main compartment:



Then I use a Domke copy camera bag divider:



In the backpack:



(2014 trip when I took M645 gear to Scotland & Ireland)

Bottom board on top:



Film & the rest of my carry on stuff goes on top of the cameras. Laptop slot held my Samsung Android 8.4" tablet, iPod, meds etc.

I never had a carry-on issue with back pack and I also carried a CPAP. I've been using the Samsonite back pack for 4 years or so without issue domestically in the US or overseas in Europe. I did check a rollerboard bag with my clothes & toiletries etc.

Overall a very pleasant trip to Europe .
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What a timely topic, on Monday I'm flying transatlantic for my first time.

I tend to not risk things. On my last flight I literally took the one carry on rule and just carried my backpack, my mate carried his backpack (barely loaded) and a standard piece of luggage.
So on my way back home I'm packing a bag of delicacies to carry aside.

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I find this a la carte pricing is a benefit to flying.
Thanks to that I'm in this Norwegian flight to NY. $290 being absolutely No frills. But well, I get to cross the puddle at least, which in legacy airlines takes a heftier amount of cash.

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Regarding the quality/quantity of airline food, one time when flying back home from Austin, TX via Southwest Airlines I got a carryout order of a brisket sandwich and fries from the Salt Lick in Austin's airport; then once airborne proceeded to unpack that baby and slowly eat it with as much gusto as I could muster, with the aroma of barbecue filling the cabin and other passengers eyeing me with jealousy as they munch on their little bags of peanuts and pretzels.

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I'll try to do that in my outbound leg. The flight departs at Dinner time . In any case I'll pack my snacks, if I feel I need a higher kick perhaps I'll order from a food outlet in the terminal.

Outbound to NY I'm packing few stuff. Cameras, some clothing (t-shirts) which I'll donate there and hopefully given the Christmas madness I might be able to shop new stuff for decent prices. Then I'll fill up the luggage.
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Hand inspection, really? When planes fall down from skies and it's not going to look any better in near future, what one really expects from security people, to not put Leica/Nikon/whatever shaped bomb through scanner?
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Problems arise when they just change rules, sometimes in mid trip when you change planes.

In all the fuss over my fanny pack, they forgot to check my passport or boarding pass.

I went to the AA site, and something I always suspected, is that Duty Free is exempt from carry on rules, I bought several in Paris, nice bags, strong, low cost, and packed my extra cameras in them, I hauled 3 on board, no questions.

Perhaps it is because Roissy in Paris makes more money from Duty Free than from the plane fees?

As to bringing on nice sandwiches, be sure to bring extras for friends and crew.

I had a first class ticket on a cheap Brazilian airplane, breakfast became a cup of nuts and a Canadian whiskey.

Yesterday I had the feeling a carry out bag of food would have classified as a carry on.

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