Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > Cameras / Gear / Photography > Rangefinder Forum > Image Processing: Darkroom / Lightroom / Film

Image Processing: Darkroom / Lightroom / Film Discuss Image processing -- traditional darkoom or digital lightroom here. Notice there are subcategories to narrow down subject matter. .

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

What to use to develop Arcos 100?
Old 02-23-2009   #1
scottyb70
Registered User
 
scottyb70 is offline
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 211
What to use to develop Arcos 100?

I just bought a fresh roll of Arcos 100 for the first time and plan on trying it out. I only have HC-110 and TMax developer. I want to have fine grain.

I read to develop Arcos in HC-110 Dilution E for 7 minutes and with Tmax 1 + 9 @ 10.5 minutes. Will the Tmax give me a finer grain because of the longer time development? Is there another hc-110 dilution that would be better?

I read that some people don't agitate according to the manufacturers recommendations. Should I agitate differently to get better results.?
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #2
Todd.Hanz
Registered User
 
Todd.Hanz's Avatar
 
Todd.Hanz is offline
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Texas
Age: 54
Posts: 4,184
Acros won't give you much grain to speak of. I use Xtol 1:1 or FG-7, not wanting much grain of course. If you want grain shoot someting like Tri-X at 1600.

Here's an example of Acros shot at 100...not alot of grain eh?


Todd
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #3
venchka
Registered User
 
venchka's Avatar
 
venchka is offline
Join Date: Apr 2006
Age: 73
Posts: 6,212
What Todd said.

I will vouch for Xtol in general and Xtol 1:3 with continuous agitation in particular. Alas, I haven't developed any Fuji Acros yet. I have developed Ilford Pan-F+ and HP5+ and the grain is, hmmmmmmm, not there? That's the best way to describe it. No grain.
__________________
Wayne
Deep in the darkest heart of the East Texas Rain forest.
Quote:
"Leave me alone, I know what I'm doing" Kimi Raikkonen
My Gallery
My Blog-Reborn
FlickrMyBookTwitSpaceFace
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #4
wde60
Warren
 
wde60's Avatar
 
wde60 is offline
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Providence
Posts: 88
The Xtol looks great.
I have had good luck with Rodinal 1:50



I have used HC110 with Acros


I think you will get pretty smooth grain and good sharpness with this film with most developers. I would try to bring out some smooth grays by using a fairly dilute mixture of HC110 and agitate according to the manufacturers directions.
__________________

My Gallery

My Flickr

Last edited by wde60 : 02-23-2009 at 05:56.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #5
venchka
Registered User
 
venchka's Avatar
 
venchka is offline
Join Date: Apr 2006
Age: 73
Posts: 6,212
Warren,

Stunning! Thanks for sharing.
__________________
Wayne
Deep in the darkest heart of the East Texas Rain forest.
Quote:
"Leave me alone, I know what I'm doing" Kimi Raikkonen
My Gallery
My Blog-Reborn
FlickrMyBookTwitSpaceFace
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #6
scottyb70
Registered User
 
scottyb70 is offline
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 211
Thanks I think I will use the hc 110 at a dilution of E.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #7
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
 
nikon_sam's Avatar
 
nikon_sam is offline
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Alta Loma, CA
Age: 58
Posts: 4,943
I've been shooting Neopan 400 in the 120 format and developing in Rodinal 1+50 and really liking that...I've been thinking of trying some Acros 100...you guys have convinced me to go get some...
Nice work you guys...
__________________
Sam
"tongue tied & twisted
just an earthbound misfit...I..."
pf
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #8
JapanExposures
-
 
JapanExposures is offline
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Japan
Posts: 93
Rodinal 1+50 works for me too... in a Jobo drum, 35mm up to 8x10.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2980235718_8d4677a192.jpg (85.1 KB, 25 views)
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #9
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
 
Tom A's Avatar
 
Tom A is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Age: 75
Posts: 6,074
If you are going to shoot a lot of ACROS, I would recommend that you start making your own developer. I use home made Beutler (just google the formula) - easy to mix and works extremely well on ACROS/Plus X/Neopan SS/Pan F etc. The formula was concocted by Willy Beutler for Leica in the 50's. It was done to show off what was possible to achieve with 35mm (it was still known as "miniature film" then) and Leica's lenses.
The components are quite basic and you can get them from the Photographers Formulary and other supplier. Nothing really toxic involved and it is cheap to boot.
With films like EFKE KB 14 and KB 17 - the grain is virtually non existent and it will give very good sharpness.
I occasionally use it for Tri X and XX - but then the grain is noticable here.
You can modify to suit your style of shooting too. I usually run it as 1:1:10 (1 part A,1 part B and 10 parts of water) fir 6.5 to 8 min, depending on the film. For a slight "push" - just do it 1:1:8 - a bit more contrast too.
If you tag "EK 5231" on Flickr there are a bunch of shots done with Beutler and Kodaks + X movie stock, rated at 80 iso. You can also tag "Beutler" and get some more variations. Lots of people use it.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #10
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
 
Tom A's Avatar
 
Tom A is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Age: 75
Posts: 6,074

This is with ACROS 100 - developed in Beutler 1:1:10 for 7 minutes. Zeiss ZM Biogon 21f4.5. For you car nuts - it is a HRG 1500 from the late 40's.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #11
Cale Arthur
---- ------
 
Cale Arthur's Avatar
 
Cale Arthur is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Out on the tiles
Posts: 358
I've been enjoying Acros @200 in Diafine lately..

__________________
flickr
--c--

The future begins tomorrow!
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #12
malcolmma
Registered User
 
malcolmma is offline
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7
I have used D76 1:1/1:3、HC100 F & Rodinal 1:100 to develop acros100. I think HC100 F, D76 1:3 and Rodinal 1:100 is better choice.
acros100 EI100 Rodinal 1:100 [email protected]




acros100 D76 1:3 [email protected]


acros100 EI80 HC110 F [email protected]

__________________
My Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-23-2009   #13
notturtle
Registered User
 
notturtle is offline
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 343
whatever you use, use it diluted to improve acutance. This film can look soft despite high resolution due to very fine grain. Either sound very viable as either dilute HC110 and Tmax give reasonable acutance. long term I agree with Tom A, an acutance developer is the way to go unless you want super creamy soft looking images. The problem comes when you shoot things that need to have edges and the image has little presence (at least in my experience).
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 23:34.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.