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Missing my 6x9 - folders!
Old 11-26-2009   #1
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Missing my 6x9 - folders!

For as long as I can remember there has been a roll film folder of some sort ( usually Zeiss, Agfa, Voigtlander etc.) in my arsenal, but not in the last year or so - since drastically reducing my collection. I'm now rather missing having a pocketable medium format camera, in a perverse way,as they are slow and 'fiddly' but often produce stunning results. Right now I have my eye on a Ensign Selfix 820 with 105 - f3.8 Ross Express, really clean and tidy, and for a good (in my view) price. So the usual, inevitable query - as this is about the only make I have not sampled! - how does it perform, in comparison to - say - a Ikonta, Nettar, Bessa etc.?, I have heard the Ross lens on 'em was pretty good?.
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Old 11-27-2009   #2
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Dave might it be the Ensign being sold by MWClassic for 69
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This is a model I would like to add to my set. They have taken off in value lately and are now a little too rich for my blood at the moment.
I've not had very great experience of a wide range of 120 folders, but of my folders (inc Isolette/Solinar) my two examples of Ross Xpress give a very good performance and are clearly every bit as good or better than the rest. Enjoy.....
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Dave might it be the Ensign being sold by MWClassic for 69
No - not that one ( I rarely buy from camera shops ) I should be receiving mine on Saturday, and a bit less !
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No - not that one ( I rarely buy from camera shops ) I should be receiving mine on Saturday, and a bit less !
Did you get it yet? Have you put film through it? Looking forward to seeing photos both of and with your new camera. I know my Zeiss Ikon 6x9 is a favorite of mine. Fujica 160 VC is almost magic in 6x9.

Edit: It hit me last night that I called Kodak Fuji. Good grief!
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Fuji 160VC ? You sure you dont mean Portra 160VC?
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If it's any consolation...

I just got a roll of Provia 100F shot on my Bessa II developed. Gorgeous.

One frame was an accidental double, but it was of a mass of flowers so the overlap has created a really nice, but subtle, effect. And it's about a 6 x 15 exposure!
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If it's any consolation...

I just got a roll of Provia 100F shot on my Bessa II developed. Gorgeous.

One frame was an accidental double, but it was of a mass of flowers so the overlap has created a really nice, but subtle, effect. And it's about a 6 x 15 exposure!
don't see too many 6x9 shots here, could you post some?
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In my experience the Selfix 820 is heavier and generally more ponderous to use than an Ikonta or Nettar. I've also found the resolution of the Xpres lens (on both my examples) a bit disappointing until about f11-16 (when however it is excellent)--and somewhat in the face of its near-legendary reputation.

OTOH I've had more success handholding it at long shutter speeds than with most other folders: often down to 1/4 with satisfactory results. I suspect its extra mass helps there.

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don't see too many 6x9 shots here, could you post some?
Dave.
I have yet to scan much from the Bessa as I only bought a V700 in the late spring. And it's been a heck of a busy year since then. I've also realized, from my test scans, that I have to buy the better scanning glass because there is too much curl on a 6 x 9 neg.

Let me see if I have time today or tomorrow and I'll post a couple to this thread.
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Fuji 160VC ? You sure you dont mean Portra 160VC?
Yes, I did. I thought of it last night. I don't know why, but it just popped into my mind what I had done. I have added an edit above. Don't know what I was thinking (or not thinking) of to have said that. Fuji has some good films, but the VC really pops.
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Here is one from an Afga Record III with solinar, scanned with an epson 4990, expired provia 100 f

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Here is one from an Afga Record III with solinar, scanned with an epson 4990, expired provia 100 f

Exellent!...I bet that camera makes a helluva print!
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