NEW Fuji X-M1 @ £180 - any good ?
Old 07-06-2017   #1
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NEW Fuji X-M1 @ £180 - any good ?

I have just indulged in an ex-dem warranted X-M1 @£162 without any ancillaries .It will be around £180 with battery/strap/lens cap - free online manual .

At the price , I just wanted the 16-50 to extend the 27mm on the one year old X-Pro1 .

I tried the X-M1 out with the X-Pro 1 battery ,pending an OEM battery , the IQ is
excellent and the 'waist level finder ' LOL is useful .

I guess that this plastic compact is not considered a worthy part of the x- family ,
i would not have bought it at £600 plus , but It's going to be a great pocket camera with the 27mm .
Not much else worth considering at the price .
It's reasonably well built however , no worse than Sony offerings .

Does anyone have any experience of this camera ?

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I've had one for about a year - I picked up a clean used one when I grabbed a used XP1 and 35/2. My XM1 usually has worn one of the "toy" 24/8s but that's likely to change as I expect to be using Fuji X much more regularly with my new XP2.

I've been impressed with the XM1, it seems to be basically an XP1 stuffed into a simple body. I use an OVF on it with the 24 but have also enjoyed using the 35/2 with the LCD tilted up - an ersatz waist level finder like you said.

One thing I did to mine that really improved the handling was adding the Fuji grip extension - the bare camera is a little small for my hammy hands.

I think you'll like it - enjoy!
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Some people love these w/ a 27mm, but for my cash, I'd rather go for a used X-E1.
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I posted this thread quite a while ago.
This grip was great for the XA1 which is the same body as the XM1.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=153468

I agree with Mr Rockit. The XE1 is my choice as a compact Back up.
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I use the X-M1 in the third year now. One of the smallest APS-C bodies you can get. The X-E1 is rather bulky compared with the X-M1.
The leather half-case from Fuji gives you an additional grip and saves the body in rough environment very well.



Waist level shooting is great with tilted up display.

Maybe I“ll buy an X-E one day. But it would and could be no replacement for my X-M1
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Agreed that the XE1/2 is larger than the XA/M-1. XA/M1 are very small and light. I have one that is converted to full spectrum. But I prefer having the EVF and traditional controls of the xe1/2 as a secondary or smaller/lighter body to pair with the XP2.

If you watch long enough you can find the XE2 for only a little more than the XE1 and it is a more responsive camera with better AF.

I carry the XE2/27mm (or 18mm) in a tiny Crumpler belt pouch. I have a larger think tank belt pouch that can hold the XP2 (with 18 or 27mm attached) and the 18-55 (or 14mm) below it or even a pair of primes back to back under it.

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Thanks , everyone .
I have the X-Pro 1 , so the X-M 1 is a bonus .
I have no need for another X , I will be taking it out today , with the battery from the X-Pro until I buy another .
Again , the 27mm and 16-50 are enough for me.
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I think you will enjoy the X-M1 "as is".
Meanwhile mine carries only my manual fixed lenses instead of the zoom in the picture.
Never had such a comfortable "TLR" before...
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The X-E1 is rather bulky compared with the X-M1.
Not in any way that could matter... it's not a matter of pocketable vs. not pocketable. Plus you get an EVF on the X-E1.

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You just added the bulk you saved....
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I quite like the case - it would give a touch of style and I don't need it to be so small .
Certainly , having taken it out now , I really like it - especially the twin dials for manual .

I don't have a comparison with others from the X series because there was no choice for the combined outlay as chance buys .

i like the idea of a half case though m maybe better for grip and appearance - but it would be a cheap Chinese version in Brown or Tan .

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I considered one of the half cases for mine but fell into the Fuji grip first. The grip is just right IMO.

This is embarrassing - I found a 27/2.8 that I forgot I had. I think I picked it up to keep on the X-M1 just before I had surgery last year.
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This is embarrassing - I found a 27/2.8 that I forgot I had. I think I picked it up to keep on the X-M1 just before I had surgery last year.
Nice find...
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I took the X-M1 out yesterday , and it's been elevated from a 16-50 lens donor for the X-Pro1 to a respected premium camera in it's own right .

I did indulge in a Fuji lens cap for the 16-50 , but went for a recommended OEM battery plus an old strap I had lying around , the idea is to keep it budget - after all , my new X-Pro 1 with new 27mm was just £318 a year ago . With case and modest Sandisk card , I should be able to keep within £200 , which compares OK with current competition .

What created the switch in perception of the X-M ?

As a considered snap shooter , I tend to adopt auto exposure on the X-Pro making much use of the compensation dial , sometimes inadvertently !
The twin exposure dials of the X-M ' shades of my Pentax K10D without the bulk , encourage easy manual use , so I have reverted to setting the shutter and varying exposure as required .

The flip screen is great as a TLR clone - even of overhead shots . I actually bought a used , £100 Sony A390 just for the waist level finder , knowing that entry level cameras are seldom thrashed .
For the most part , it will be paired with the 16-50 because the X-Pro 1 with 27mm is a perfect shoulder bag camera - I much prefer a fixed lens with this camera , it just feels right .

I have not had a camera with case post my SRT days , but the X-M is small enough for me to chase up a £7 case in a sale . My 70s cases were all vinyl , so I guess a vinyl case would be good enough - this is still a budget camera , after all .

i won't be taking alternative lenses , it's more likely that the X-Pro will be in my shoulder bag anyway .

Thanks for all the feedback .

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...it's not a matter of pocketable vs. not pocketable...
Did I write "pocketable" ?
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...Plus you get an EVF on the X-E1...
Like getting a milk shake extra when ordering a menue at a big american restaurant?
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But you have to regret the loss of the tilting mechanism which makes the X-M so practically for the kind of shooting the threadopener plans to do.

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...You just added the bulk you saved....
Shure.
Until you add a halfcase to an X-E.
Otherwise - really try to make an X-E pocketable.
When you strip it down to the size of an X-M (without halfcase )
you sure have sawn away parts that are elementary for its function.

Why? Because some people call an X-100 "pocketable".
To make it just a bit clearer - the size-step down to an ultimative pocketable camera like the F900EXR is smaller
than the upstep to the X-E.
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I guess I don't need the comparison -
With a new bargain X-Pro 1 AND a new bargain X-M1 , I am content .... although come 5 years or so , I may be looking out for a lost X-Pro 2 body lurking in a cabinet ...

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Did I write "pocketable" ?
No, but that is usually what makes or breaks a camera with regard to gaining a little extra weight or size.

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Like getting a milk shake extra when ordering a menue at a big american restaurant?
Ok, if you really think that an extra framing mechanism is superfluous.

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But you have to regret the loss of the tilting mechanism which makes the X-M so practically for the kind of shooting the threadopener plans to do.
Fair enough...

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Shure.
Until you add a halfcase to an X-E.
Otherwise - really try to make an X-E pocketable.
I wouldn't use a half case for protection on a cheap camera.

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...Ok, if you really think that an extra framing mechanism is superfluous...
Its not extra. It is instead of in this case.
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I wouldn't use a half case for protection on a cheap camera...
And I don“t care if cheap or not - if it“s broken it doesn“t take photos.
And sometimes you are far out.
Like this thread meanwhile

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Half case ordered for my cheap camera LOL , but lashed out £12 for the leather option .
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Half case ordered for my cheap camera LOL , but lashed out £12 for the leather option .
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Ok, sorry if I offended you guys because I called it cheap, but relative to other cameras that are out... it is. That doesn't mean it is bad or it is going to break, etc. It's just one of the cheaper options in Fuji land.
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They are cheap. Nevertheless they can be worth adding accessories by the users needs

By the way - one cheaper way to get a fuji X body is to buy a X-A1. Simpler sensor otherwise like X-M1.
And the X-E1 is nearly in the same price range as the X-M1 here in germany.

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My wife's got one of these w/ the 35mm 1.4, she loves it. Super easy to use, I grab it sometimes when I want something easier to use than the M9. (autofocus, lightweight...)


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