Originally Posted by Huss
There are so many times I wish I did not trade my D850 for my Z7. Control layout and handling is so much better with the D850.
For myself I have never seen the need for a mirrorless system other then the rangefinders I already have (if I need small and light I use a rangefinder or an iPhone and I never needed to "replicate" a full pro DSLR AF system in a smaller lighter package + I just can't cope with EVFs).
I have therefore never tested or used any of the Nikon or Canon mirrorless cameras.
I would have thought that Nikon would have implemented a mirror image of the body controls they have so carefully perfected and evolved in every generation of SLRs since the F and applied them to their mirrorless cameras.
I have the hands of a 6'4 240lbs guy - the D850 is on the very small side for my hands and just barely big enough to be usable (I much prefer full sized DSLRs but Nikon sadly doesn't do a high res big body any longer - a D850 sensor in a D5 body would be an ideal SLR for me).
The D800E never felt really comfortable so I was pleasantly surprised that the small re-sculpting changes on the D850 make it handle just enough better to notice (slightly deeper grip and here and there small changes in shape + some logical button moving).
I could not possible imagine to use a smaller body than that and hang heavy lenses off the front
Good news though is how fast these bodies depreciate - I have seen second hand D850 bodies in the 1500 USD range and below already so it should be easy to switch back or add a D850 again down the road that is if you haven't made the grave mistake of selling your F mount lenses (I did once and I paid dearly to eventually buy them all back)!
Originally Posted by Chris101
Also look at your white balance and metering mode settings. Are there any asterisks showing? In white balance A* setting, exposure is modified to produce the best skin tones under natural light. In metering mode (spot)* exposure is adjusted to keep the highest value in the frame from blowing out. These settings got me when I started with the 850.
Very nice tip ;-) This must be a new feature - I never remember having seen that before.
I will look out for this!
I have added a little meter compensation to matrix (should I ever happen to use it) and center weighted metering and see how the meter behaves from here.
Sadly there is an issue where I read opposing descriptions on the net regarding the issue of the histogram being calculated based on the picture setting infused JPG thumbnail when shooting NEF only.
In the past it was a relatively safe bet to simply set the picture settings to "Neutral" to have a relatively conservative histogram, being close enough to prevent blown highlights and clipped shadows.
Now some people report this is no longer safe with the D850 and describe that in some lighting conditions the histogram is WAY off this way and one is better off using the "Standard" picture settings (which is more off most of the time but less often completely off).
This sounds like a really bad solution from Nikon, not being able to trust the histogram any longer (granted I also always had a haaaaard time with this since the D800E, the D3 and D300 never produced any issues here before).
I wish there was a "pro metering mode" where all the highlight and skin tone guessing features could be completely switched off and the meter could be reverted to how it works on a Nikon F3 or a Leica M for that matter and the photographer would have to make decisions re. difficult lighting conditions.
By comparison it surprises me how the good old and simple meter and AWB of the original first gen Leica S2 works PERFECT by comparison with any Nikon DSLR since the D3/D300 generation. I think Nikon got themselves caught into a bit of a metering mess here.