Real world FSU lens on Leica experience
Old 08-09-2013   #1
lrochfort
Registered User
 
lrochfort is offline
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 234
Real world FSU lens on Leica experience

Hello Leica M users!

I'm very slowly saving for an M6 (the M4 calls to me, but I feel I now need a camera with built in meter)

I currently use a Fed 2 with Jupiter 8, 12 and Industar 61 L/D. I would like to keep them for the Leica because I think they're better lenses than I am a photographer.

Do people have real world experience with them on M bodies? Does the fact that they're calibrated for Contaxish FSU bodies really matter wide open and up close?

Thanks all!
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-09-2013   #2
Brian Legge
Registered User
 
Brian Legge is offline
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,684
At f2-2.8 - and with later lenses - you may be in the clear. Hard to know until you try with your specific lenses though.
__________________
Shooting whatever I can get my hands on.
Recent Work
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-09-2013   #3
mdarnton
Registered User
 
mdarnton is offline
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,262
I have three FSU lenses, and they all back-focus about six inches at one meter. Some folks say this doesn't happen, but then when I go check their pictures, when I can find some, they're pretty obviously back focused at a meter, about six inches. So I guess it depends on how low your standards for "in focus" are. :-)

I don't think it would be impossible to learn how to compensate, however, and they are pretty good lenses when they're in focus. My f/1.1 Nokton has some focus shift in the same direction as it stops down, and I'm attempting to deal with it, making corrections a habit on my part.
__________________
Thanks, but I'd rather just watch:
Mostly 35mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mdarnton
Large format: http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaeldarnton
What? You want digital, color, etc?: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stradofear
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-09-2013   #4
noisycheese
Normal(ish) Human
 
noisycheese is offline
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,283
Quote:
I would like to keep them for the Leica because I think they're better lenses than I am a photographer.
There's nothing wrong with that; more glass gives you more options. Not every lens a person uses has to be an air bleeding sharp megadollar Leica lens.

Quote:
Does the fact that they're calibrated for Contaxish FSU bodies really matter wide open and up close?
The closer you are to your subject, the more this will become a factor - particularly when shooting wide open.

My thought: Keep the lenses you have and see how they perform on your future M6. If you like them now, you will probably still like them on your M6.
__________________
The Leica M passion: From the inside it's hard to explain; from the outside it's hard to understand.
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-09-2013   #5
lrochfort
Registered User
 
lrochfort is offline
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 234
Thanks everyone. Suck it and see seems a good option!

Personal preference how much of a problem t is I suppose.
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-09-2013   #6
pb908
Registered User
 
pb908's Avatar
 
pb908 is offline
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 382
i have several j8, and one j12, industar collapsible
somehow, all focus fine in my rd1, and give me better image uality compared to some old leica/canon ltm i have ever tried.
a good j12 and j8 should be a keeper until you save up some more money for better lenses
__________________
keep it small & simple :
M2-T BP, IIIc-T BP ST, A-cord RG v2, BII C-Heliar, DP2M, RD1
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-09-2013   #7
PatrickCheung
Registered User
 
PatrickCheung's Avatar
 
PatrickCheung is offline
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 377
I really liked the J8... and the J12! Here's a J8 on the M8...



And a J12 on the M8:
__________________
Flickr

Hundred Strangers Project
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-10-2013   #8
Nomad Z
Registered User
 
Nomad Z is offline
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 387
I calibrated my J-3 for close stuff with Leica - it was definitely out. I never bothered with the J-12, partly because I didn't do close stuff with it, and partly because I never bothered finding out how before I bought a f2.5 Skopar C to replace it (J-12 lives with the Zorki and a J-8 now). For general scenes at middling apertures with the J-12 on Leica, it was fine.
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-10-2013   #9
ruby.monkey
Registered User
 
ruby.monkey is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: The Garden of England
Age: 49
Posts: 4,553
My J-12 focusses acceptably accurately on both an M3 and M2, at all apertures, and without adjustment. I used to own a J-3 that had been adjusted by a previous owner, which worked well at all all distances; just couldn't trust the distance scale marked on the lens.
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-10-2013   #10
hans voralberg
Registered User
 
hans voralberg's Avatar
 
hans voralberg is offline
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Birmingham, UK & Hochiminh, Vietnam
Posts: 2,022
The J-8 and J-3 can be reshim for focus so it should be fine to keep them, cheaper than buying a new lens anyway. And the J-8 properly adjusted is a very good lens.
__________________
Bodies: Leica IIIf - Leica M3 SS - M6 Black TTL - M9

Lens: Too many to list!

My Flickr

  Reply With Quote

Old 08-10-2013   #11
smbilgin
Registered User
 
smbilgin's Avatar
 
smbilgin is offline
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 114
I use my J8 with a cheap Chinese adapter on my M2 and never had any problem. I also have a summicron 50 and it had back focus issue at large apartures and now I sent it to Youxin to get it CLA'd. But never experienced any focus problem with J8.

This example was shot with M2 + J8 + Tri-X (@400) and developed with D76 1:1 @20C 10 min

__________________
Picasa Portfolio

Flickr Portfolio
  Reply With Quote

Old 08-10-2013   #12
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
 
shadowfox's Avatar
 
shadowfox is offline
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 8,801
If there is an FSU lens that is faster than J12 (must be 35mm focal length for me), I would use it in a heartbeat. If I am a 50mm guy, I would use the J8 on my M4-P without a doubt.

To me, the true advantage of the Leica M system is the body, not the lenses. The optical difference between Leitz vs non-Leitz lenses are not worth the price difference. And in most cases, I can't tell the difference anyways.
__________________
Have a good light,
Will


  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:48.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.