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I like the tones I'm getting from the scans, just not sure about the whole graininess thing.
The graininess thing is “grain aliasing” — exaggerated appearance of graininess caused by interaction between the film's grain structure and the pixel structure of your digitizing device — and basically you can never avoid it when scanning traditional b&w films. It isn't a problem with color films because their image structure consists of overlapping semi-transparent dye clouds, while conventional b&w films' image consists of mostly opaque, hard-edged granules.

Things you can do about it are:

— Defocus your lens during capture (yuck) or blur the scanned image (double yuck.)
— Lie to yourself that it doesn't exist.
— Lie to yourself that there's some magic software that will fix it.
— Tell everybody it's “character” or “wabi-sabi”
— Shoot on a larger format. Aliasing still happens, but doesn't look as bad because you need less magnification to get the same output size.
— Don't worry about it and accept what the process gives you. Your images are terrific and their tonality is beautiful. I'd say just run with that.
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Thanks for the suggestions and encouragement -- yes I think now that I got the sharpness thing worked out, I'm going to just work with it as-is. Yes you're right, no software will get rid of it, but to me it does look like all that 400 speed film was pushed to like 1600. I think I pretty much get the same results from my Plustek 8200i.

One of the nice things about working this way is that I'm discovering shots that I never printed when I shot them, so it's like all new work to me (mind you it's 25 years old!).


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... Other thing I'm doing is setting the Picture Control to the mono setting (being that I'm shooting black and white negs right now).
You're scanning in jpeg not RAW?
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You're scanning in jpeg not RAW?
No I'm scanning in RAW -- if you go into the 'Set Picture Control' option, you can choose 'Monochrome' in the menu. It still records as an NEF file.


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No I'm scanning in RAW -- if you go into the 'Set Picture Control' option, you can choose 'Monochrome' in the menu. It still records as an NEF file.


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Try shooting in regular RAW. Curious to see if you see any difference with your sharpening/grain issue. B&W inversions are simple in LR (select B&W in the right column under Treatment) then invert the curves.
Or you could use negativelabpro.com to do it all for you.
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FYI that pic looks so much better viewed in Flickr at it's biggest size!
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Try shooting in regular RAW. Curious to see if you see any difference with your sharpening/grain issue. B&W inversions are simple in LR (select B&W in the right column under Treatment) then invert the curves.
Or you could use negativelabpro.com to do it all for you.
Sure I can give that a try -- I have Negative Lab Pro, so no worries there. I don't really use LR very much -- I'm more of a PhotoShop CC and Silver Efex Pro guy.
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Shot on 'Standard' Picture Control, not sure it made any difference.


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Vince: did you process and sharpen that latest image? if you did, can we see the straight scan?
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Vince: did you process and sharpen that latest image? if you did, can we see the straight scan?
Well a straight scan will be a) a RAW file and b) a negative. I can post it, but it honestly won't really mean much. It will actually be pretty flat and have a slightly greenish cast.

The negs haven't been sharpened much at all -- I always 'process' all my images, however, as I should.

As far as the last photo goes, I have a gelatin silver print of it, and the scanned version is a good approximation of it (at least as far as I 'interpreted' it in the darkroom 20+ years ago).
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Nikon F4, 50 1.4D, Fuji Pro160S, Z7 scan, negativelabpro.com

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Wow those are some serious colours there Huss!
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I'm digging the irony of taking a photo on film of something that looks like a computer generated graphic.

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It was a giant rotating LED pineapple!
Handheld shot at the beach.
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Trying a bit of 120 film, using a Lomography Digitaliza on a small lightbox. Not a great shot, but one to start with. From about 1995.


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An HP5 4x5 neg, also from about 1995, scanned from the Z7. Sky is a bit splotchy -- might be due to my lightbox.


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