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Old 10-05-2014   #1
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Nex 7 vs Nex 6

Other than there being a whole lot more megapixels in a 7 vs a 6, what other advantages/disadvantages are there?
I'm asking in terms of using only old legacy lenses on the camera.
Will I be happier with more megapixels to work with or will less be OK?
I'd love an A7 but that is beyond my pocketbook range.
What say the collective here?
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Nex 6 sensor is slightly better for wide angle legacy lens then Nex 7.
I use to had them both, now I am with a6000 that has in terms of sensor the best one.
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If I were to get one of those three today, I would definitely get the A6000. A quick check of prices on Amazon: Nex7 ($930); NEX6 ($480); A6000 ($598). Compared to the NEX7, the A6000 has just as meany megapixels and beats the NEX7 in everything else. The only advantages of the NEX7 are: external mic, takes 3D photos and is just a little smaller than the A6000. Wrt to the NEX6, the only disadvantage of the A6000 is a slightly higher price ($118 difference), but if you are considering the NEX7, then the A6000 is well within your budget.
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The only advantages of the NEX7 are: external mic, takes 3D photos and is just a little smaller than the A6000.
No, there is another advantage - the two control wheels on the top. I own the NEX7 nuy there is till no way I'd get the NEX7 today. A6000 is the way to go. Just wish they had kept the two control wheels.
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If I were to get one of those three today, I would definitely get the A6000. A quick check of prices on Amazon: Nex7 ($930); NEX6 ($480); A6000 ($598). Compared to the NEX7, the A6000 has just as meany megapixels and beats the NEX7 in everything else. The only advantages of the NEX7 are: external mic, takes 3D photos and is just a little smaller than the A6000. Wrt to the NEX6, the only disadvantage of the A6000 is a slightly higher price ($118 difference), but if you are considering the NEX7, then the A6000 is well within your budget.
Of the three, I would also go w/ the a6000..for Improved af focus. But just to be fair though, the evf on the Nex 6 has the better spec. Whether u notice the difference is a different issue.. Plus the a6000 has the alpha family menu system not the Nex one that I always hated.

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Well thanks for the input.
I just ordered a used NEX 7 body, plus two adapters so I could use my old lenses on it. All in shipped for under $600, so I'm happy. We'll see how the shooting goes in a few days.
One of the reasons I went with the Nex 7 is the view finder.
Really looking forward to getting it now.
I don't anticipate using the AF on it as I won't have any Sony lenses to use on it.
This purchase was all about getting digital images using old glass.
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I don't understand, could you explain what 'bout the EVF of the Nex 7 is different from the Nex 6 or A6000 that made you decide on the Nex 7?
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I think he was just teasing us😊

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No tease here.
NEX 7 and 6 EVF are the same, a6000 is smaller/less dots per what I've read.
NEX 7 is a larger camera and since I found it hard(er) to hold my neighbors Nex5n when I borrowed it, I figured bigger was better in this case.
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By less dots are u talking about mega pixels? The nex7 is 24mp same as the a6000. The nex6 is 16mp.

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In general the Nex-6 is best of three for MF glass, however, Nex-7 plus zeiss touit is in another class altogether.

this one especially:
http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/e...touit2812.html

With Nex-7, and including the A7x with any available 18mm-ish, nothing can touch that lens UWA.

Sony's Achilles is the hubris to pile on thick sensor covers for irrelevant features, so that they make SA in many wide lenses. Originally there was no great UWA for the Nex-7, and it was speculated that the sensor made it unlikely to happen---then came the ZE12/2.8

However it was not enough to keep their owners from following the full frame siren. Now many have an A7x and the same issue is a hot topic.

For great wide on A7r it's either huge heavy SLR zeiss, or the WATE.

Zeiss will have a MF E UWA 18 in the spring for the A7, which we hope will be like the very nice 12/2.8 touit.

For the sony aps-c my normal became a 28mm, which is near ideal 1.5x I don't know what the best 28 is for the nex-7, which is so so picky with lenses wider than 35mm. But if I owned a nex-7, I'd find out

The Nex-5 loved the 28 cron, but not the Nex-7
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By less dots are u talking about mega pixels? The nex7 is 24mp same as the a6000. The nex6 is 16mp.

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The A6000 has a lower resolution viewfinder - 1.4M vs 2.3M dot matrix (I think from memory). When I looked at it, yes it was noticeable (barely) but the gain is the responsiveness of the refresh rate.
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After much consideration, I bought the Nex-6 a few months ago. All of the adapted advantages of the 5n. Bigger body and inbuilt finder like the 7. Better finder than the a6000. To top it off, I think it was ~$360 from KEH. Done deal.
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I went with the a6000 because of the menu improvement. The evf resolution was a worry but it's been a non issue so far.
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Other than there being a whole lot more megapixels in a 7 vs a 6, what other advantages/disadvantages are there?
I'm asking in terms of using only old legacy lenses on the camera.
Will I be happier with more megapixels to work with or will less be OK?
I'd love an A7 but that is beyond my pocketbook range.
What say the collective here?
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NEX-7 feels like a higher end model. I liked it better.
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The A6000 has a lower resolution viewfinder - 1.4M vs 2.3M dot matrix (I think from memory). When I looked at it, yes it was noticeable (barely) but the gain is the responsiveness of the refresh rate.
Yeh.. I noted that on a prior post above the one u mentioned. That is why I concentrated on the mp question.

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NEX-7 feels like a higher end model. I liked it better.
He mentioned legacy lenses.. The Nex 6 is actually better of the two if they are rf wide angles. I don't know how the a6000 stacks up now that I think about it. Maybe about same as nex7?

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Other than there being a whole lot more megapixels in a 7 vs a 6, what other advantages/disadvantages are there?
I'm asking in terms of using only old legacy lenses on the camera.
Will I be happier with more megapixels to work with or will less be OK?
I'd love an A7 but that is beyond my pocketbook range.
What say the collective here?
TIA.
If legacy lenses and mf are your thing, then of the 3 cameras I would get the Nex 6. I don't think more megapixels with some of the older lenses will make you any happier than the 16mp of the 6. 16mp is plenty. I think with some of the Leica lenses the Nex 7 has some corner issues that aren't there with the Nex 6.

Anyway I'm very happy with my Nex 6 either for af or mf. I use my old Nikon glass with a cheap adapter and get great results. If you are at all interested if af at some point then I would get the A6000, which offers greatly improved af over the 6 and the 7.

Honestly though you can't go wrong with any of these 3 cameras, they are all pretty terrific.
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Funny, people buy the Nex 6/7 because of the higher resolution viewfinder - however, at least one review (imaging resource) claims that "comparing the two side-by-side, the A6000's EVF is the clear winner as it produces much more accurate colors and easy to discern details."
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I really appreciate all the discussion here. I find that if I'm not comfortable holding a camera, I won't use it. When I borrowed my neighbors Nex5n I found it very hard to hold it was soooo small. I had the same feeling when I got my M3 back from CLA (I hadn't used it before then) and it was put away. Then I found a grip for it and it's back 'in' the mix again, except for the film thing. Hopefully this new old Nex7 will get me shooting again and with my old lenses. The experience I had with the 5n told me the lenses are 'where it's at' as far as the look of the image goes. Being as the Nex7 is larger I'm sure I'll be able to adapt to it and any idiosyncrasies it may have. Heck, my first digital was a 995 so I know I can adapt if given the chance.
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Funny, people buy the Nex 6/7 because of the higher resolution viewfinder - however, at least one review (imaging resource) claims that "comparing the two side-by-side, the A6000's EVF is the clear winner as it produces much more accurate colors and easy to discern details."
It all depends on what you want from a viewfinder. Comparing the finders of the 6 and 6000, I find the one on the 6 easier on the eye; the size and magnification feel more generous than that of the 6000..
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I went for the Nex 6. Perfectly happy withe the viewfinder which is a dream after an ltm Leica. Nice with 21mm CV f4

With big lenses (Leica R), you'd think it would be awkward but in reality you end up holding the lens and not the camera, (21 SA R particularly works well as does 60 2.8 Macro).

Whatever, it works for me and won't break the bank.
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The numbers agree with your experience that size and magnification of the 6 are more generous. I guess which is best for you is personal.

@AlwaysOnAuto: have fun with you're Nex 7, I'm sure you will!
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You guys really should have warned me. THIS is just too much fun.
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Was looking thru some of the old threads here on rff and found this one I'd started a long time ago, or so it seems.
Just as an update to it, I've had a lot of fun using my Nex-7. I've recently gotten an A7ii and now have a native lens that works on it and the Nex-7. With the addition of a TAP adapter my legacy glass is now auto focusing too.
I'm in hog heaven as this is what shooting with old legacy glass is all about now that the focus doesn't rely on MY old eyes.
I just want to say I'm having a lot of fun with my cameras now and it's fun being a part of RFF too.
Happy Holidays to all!
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I have been using the NEX 7 with old glass lately too. I cannot make a direct comparison to the NEX 6 as I do not have it but I can confirm the NEX 7 is excellent. Actually I have a couple of NEX cameras including the older and cheaper consumer grade NEX F3 (with add on EVF) which as it happens is better than either in one respect - it has only 16 megapixels which gives it better dynamic range than the later NEX 7 which carries 24 megapixels. But the 7 handles better. For example I use my lenses wide open more often than not, so in focusing I use focus peeking to get approximate focus then almost always push the button on the camera to enlarge the image to view it in detail for critical focus. The NEX button is at the top of the back of the camera body while the one on the F3 is at the bottom of the back. The NEX 7 button can be operated with the thumb without removing the camera from the eye but this is difficult with the other camera making it a bit slower to use. But if the subject is static or nearly so that is not such a problem.

In my case I use either Pentax screw mount (Takumar) lenses of which I have many - years back I collected them and although I have sold some I still enjoy using those that remain. I also have quite a few Nikkors (pre AI, AI and AIS) which I use regularly too. And of course I own some Leica M glass. All work wonderfully well but while perhaps not technically so sharp across the field, the Takumar lenses render beautifully). Having said this mounted on my NEX 7 at this moment is an old 28-45mm f4.5 Nikkor wide zoom - the first they ever made and I am having great fun with it. (Higher ISOs of modern cameras remove much of the limitations suffered by older slower glass).

I will say this. I am tempted by the full frame versions of the 7 and no doubt will eventually get one. If someone comes out with a good AF adapter for Nikkor AF glass that will seal the deal for me. On a related note I did have the chance to handle an NEX 6200 recently and found it too was built like a tank. So even the later sub full frame NEX cameras are being taken seriously by Sony.

However in practice going forward I suspect I will still keep my Nikon bodies too - mainly because they work best with my native Nikkors. The smaller Sony bodies are however great for traveling when carrying a big full frame camera and lenses is a chore.
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Peter - I suggest you find someone nearby that has an A7ii with a TAP adapter. It turns all your manual lenses into AF lenses. It works amazingly well with Leica M mount and LTM adapted via Leica LTM - M adapters. I'm waiting on adapters for my Nikkor and Minolta lenses, but I suspect they will work just as well.
I'm in hog heaven now as all my lenses will be AF and image stabilized too.
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Peter - I suggest you find someone nearby that has an A7ii with a TAP adapter. It turns all your manual lenses into AF lenses. It works amazingly well with Leica M mount and LTM adapted via Leica LTM - M adapters. I'm waiting on adapters for my Nikkor and Minolta lenses, but I suspect they will work just as well.
I'm in hog heaven now as all my lenses will be AF and image stabilized too.


Thanks for this. Is TAP Tech Art Pro? Also I wonder how well they might work with say M2 Lenses.

For example with ordinary adapters (i.e. non AF) I sometimes stack adapters. I have an M42 to Leica screw mount adapter which, when added to a Leica screw mount to Leica M adapter, then a Leica M mount to NEX adapter (3 adapters, phew!) allows me to mount my M42 lenses on my NEX bodies. I do this because although I have a direct M42 to NEX adapter its pretty bulky and the above arrangement is, surprisingly, a bit smaller.

It strikes me I could adapt an M42 to the Tech Art Pro AF adapter in a similar manner. I mainly use Takumar lenses which are pretty small so providing the TAP adapter has the grunt to push SLR lenses it might work. Any thoughts? I note that Tech Art claim to be able to do this kind of thing but would appreciate any first hand impressions.
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I've only used a Leica LTM to M mount adapter on my TAP to allow mounting of my Nikkor 50 LTM lens. It works a treat. I'm sure the TAP can handle just about any adapters/lens combos you could come up with. I haven't tried my old Wollanesak 127mm tele which is LTM, but I'm pretty sure it could work too. This really is a boon for me as this is what I wanted to be able to do with these old lenses ever since I dug them out of the closet when I retired.
The TAP isn't moving the lens very far, so it doesn't have to be all that powerful. Remember, the TAP is M mount so you only have to get to M when adapting to it.
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