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Old 02-22-2016   #1
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Olympus Pen F

Just got it today, seems like the same size with the FT.



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Old 02-22-2016   #2
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Pen F looks WAY more complicated!
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Digital mfgrs need to realize less can be more.

The new F is a fine step she looks sleek in black.

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Old 02-22-2016   #5
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The Pen FT is ok if you loose the self timer, take out the meter and replace it's semi silvered mirror with a full surface mirror. The meter is a dumb design anyway. These things and put in a all matte focusing screen and they are about perfect.
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Old 02-23-2016   #6
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Try a Pen-FV. No meter, brighter screen.

The new digital one looks neat!
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Old 02-23-2016   #7
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Just tried to get used to all the functions, it's pretty good to handle and I just wish the sensor is FULL SIZE, that will be perfect.
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Just got it today, seems like the same size with the FT.
Looks like a smaller sensor to me

(nice camera BTW)
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I just wish the sensor is FULL SIZE
It is FULL SIZE for micro43. Or did you mean FULL SIZE for a vintage Pen F, meaning half-frame/APS-C? FULL SIZE 35mm? Perhaps 120? I know, you must be talking about the new 360 degree capture cameras -- that's got to be as FULL SIZE as it gets!
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haha, you got me, should be full frame.
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I have had a few Olympuses. They are wonderfully built cameras, excellent materials, ergonomics and looks. I got rid of e-p5 a few month after buying it due to a shutter shock issue. I heard they finally nailed it in this one! Let us know about your impressions with it.
I was considering it as an upgrade for my E-P1 but in 2016 m43 doesn't make much sense to me when there are Sony A7 and Fuji cameras with a better sensors at almost the same price...
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Sold my EM5ii thinking I would get the Pen-F. Unsure now and only have two lenses left, the 12mm f2 and the Panaleica 25mm 1.4 which are both up for sale. The lenses are fine performers and the Oly cameras are good but I never really managed to get used to the operation of them. Maybe it's just me but I always found myself operating the wrong dial and the focus points were forever moving position even after changing settings. I do like the smaller, RF styling of the Pen tho.
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I have had a few Olympuses. They are wonderfully built cameras, excellent materials, ergonomics and looks. I got rid of e-p5 a few month after buying it due to a shutter shock issue. I heard they finally nailed it in this one! Let us know about your impressions with it.
I was considering it as an upgrade for my E-P1 but in 2016 m43 doesn't make much sense to me when there are Sony A7 and Fuji cameras with a better sensors at almost the same price...
personally, i would put any 20mp and a few 16mp m4/3 cams against fuji for general IQ. again, imo, ff is a different story, but xtrans vs m4/3, not as big a difference as one might think. moreover, i can understand why many would prefer m4/3 for ease of PP vs the again imo assinine machinations one needs to do to massage xtrans files. imo, m4/3 fares much better vs fuji than fuji fares vs ff. and i presently have three fuji cameras!
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Try a Pen-FV. No meter, brighter screen.

The new digital one looks neat!
Pen FV's are more expensive and hard to source. The FT is common and fairly easy to modify. I like my old, dual stroke Pen F because of the plain matte screen. Never could abide micro prism circle cluttering up my view.
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Congratulations! The size comparison photos help put things in perspective.
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I got to handle one at a San Diego meetup, I brought my FV + 38mm to compare. I was impressed at the slightly smaller size but too many buttons and the lag on the VF was off-putting. Obviously a different target market than the Sony A7 series and I was in a very dark bar but I would not put up with that sort of VF lag for my personal use.
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I missed out on the chance to play with one because of flu. Still very much desire an Pen F. It's almost like they designed a camera just for me! Only difference I would desire would be weatherproofing, and a true rangefinder. But that's probably not gonna happen.
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I'll attend an Olympus road show next saturday...just curious to see and handle one ...
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I'm waiting for a silver one. Thanks, guys.
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I had opportunity to play a few minutes today with one and I have to say I am very impressed. Small size ok for my small hands but with a feeling of a solid well built object (for sure this is a subjective feeling). Quick autofocus. Not sure what to say about EVF because I would need more time and I do not own other cameras with EVF, so I cannot say if this is better or worse!
General feeling this could be the digital camera I'm looking for to stay beside my film cameras when traveling!
And what I like a lot is the possibility to reverse the LCD so you do not see it...
Thinking about...
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PS: not so sure if I like this 4/3 ratio and yes the mený is a little bit...frightening...but ...
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Robert, I have my OM-D set to 2:3 and the Pen-F will also do that.
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Robert, I have my OM-D set to 2:3 and the Pen-F will also do that.
Yes, I know this, my only worry is that it's already a "small" sensore and I'll crop away a part it will become even smaller! But I guess whith the now 20 MP it should be ok.

My mistake I didn't bring a card with me so I could bring s home a few shots, I'll do next time. Meantime thinking which lenses in case I buy it !
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PS: just free wheel thinking, 12 + 25 (PanaLeica?) should be a good combo for my style...
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Just purchased a non-weather sealed Black Pen F at my local camera store, should be picking it up in a few hours and it begins to rain...it seems fate is trying to to tell me something...
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...in a few hours and it begins to rain...it seems fate is trying to to tell me something...
At least trying to tell you it's time to buy an umbrella

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PS: please report your user impression, I'm very curious...by the way which lens?
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I live in Los Angeles so I'm sure it will stop raining in about an hour, We don't get real weather here sadly

I got a matching 17mm with it. I'm new to Olympus and Micro Four Thirds so I'm testing the waters with this little guy. I'm doing an event tonight so I might take it along with my Fuji XT-1 as a people camera. I'll post examples as soon as I can!
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At least trying to tell you it's time to buy an umbrella

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Interesting to know how it will be compared to the xt1...
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We'll only time will tell but to be honest I don't see the XT-1 losing out to the Pen F. The Pen F to me is meant to be a personal camera and not a camera I plan to use for work, with tonight being the exception.
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Interesting to know how it will be compared to the xt1...
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I'm waiting for a silver one. Thanks, guys.
My finding is that because all of these camera's are polycarbonate rather than metal under the coating... once some wear show on the silver bodies, it's quite a bit more unattractive than the black models.

The black polycarbonate underneath is nowhere near as unobtrusive as brassing on metal base camera's.

I have not purchased a silver digital camera since becoming aware of how much faster they look used and unattractive.

I encourage you to try to see a few silver model late digital camera's that have been out in the field for any length of time and have moderate shutter counts.

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Due to lack of the full frame, the pen FT has been sold already.
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Due to lack of the full frame, the pen FT has been sold already.
What do you mean lack of full frame?
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My finding is that because all of these camera's are polycarbonate rather than metal under the coating... once some wear show on the silver bodies, it's quite a bit more unattractive than the black models.

The black polycarbonate underneath is nowhere near as unobtrusive as brassing on metal base camera's.

I have not purchased a silver digital camera since becoming aware of how much faster they look used and unattractive.

I encourage you to try to see a few silver model late digital camera's that have been out in the field for any length of time and have moderate shutter counts.

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We'll only time will tell but to be honest I don't see the XT-1 losing out to the Pen F. The Pen F to me is meant to be a personal camera and not a camera I plan to use for work, with tonight being the exception.
I understand this, my interest in the Pen F is because I'm looking for a small digital but high quality to keep in my bag when traveling beside my film camera. Maybe an iso 100 or 400 film and use the digital in interiors when I need higher iso. Something like this.
And the Pen is so nice...
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I understand this, my interest in the Pen F is because I'm looking for a small digital but high quality to keep in my bag when traveling beside my film camera. Maybe an iso 100 or 400 film and use the digital in interiors when I need higher iso. Something like this.
And the Pen is so nice...
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I understand this, my interest in the Pen F is because I'm looking for a small digital but high quality to keep in my bag when traveling beside my film camera. Maybe an iso 100 or 400 film and use the digital in interiors when I need higher iso. Something like this.
And the Pen is so nice...
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Curious.. Have u already looked at the Panasonic LX 100?

Feels very much like operating a film camera due to shutter speed dial, aperture ring and exposure comp dial. It has a built in 24-75f1.8-2.8 zoom lens uses a m43 sensor but cropped to 12mp instead of the normal 16 mp. High ISO is 800-1600 depending on how picking u are. Can be set to program mode by setting both aperture and shutter dials both to A just like the Ruji X cameras. Plus it support HD and 4K video. Built in support to review and extract a 8mp still from 4K video. Video is a nice to have on vacation, even if u don't use it normally, IMHO.

Though I initially bought it as a vacation camera, it has turned into one of two cameras I use as an everyday carry camera. The Ricoh GR being the other plus the Panasonic Cm1 smartphone.

With all that said, u can't go wrong w/ the Pen F. It is a nice camera and the 20mp sensor should serve u well. The m43 lens lineup has a lot of very good lenses. The ibis is the best out there..Panasonic version on the gx7 and 8 can't touch it.

I have a pretty bad memory especially as I've gotten older..the complexity of the config menu is the only thing I don't like about the Olympus cameras. Once u set it up the way u want, it tends to get out of your way for the most part..but if I need to change something it takes me a while to remember where something is. One of these days I might spend the time to create a config tree diagram for myself..though I'm not using the em5 very much any more.

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She digs the camera!
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Here are a Few Shots from last night! I must say so far I'm loving the stabilization and Monochrome profiles on the PEN F. After setting up all my functions buttons and presets the camera handle great. It exceeded my expectation in low light. Nearly all of these are 1600 ISO. I shot only in JPEG because i have yet to install the Olympus software. Made no corrections either.

The last one was shot this morning and it was me trying out the Monochrome profile that tries to mimic film.
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