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View Poll Results: Which one should I ditch
EOS; you're so well set up with Nikon already 14 38.89%
Nikon; you like the EOS better for AF. Add lenses after selling the Nikkors 4 11.11%
There's really no reason to ditch either. Just store one away for now and stop buying stuff for it 9 25.00%
Other, see thread for explanation 9 25.00%
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Which SLR system to get out of?
Old 12-13-2019   #1
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Which SLR system to get out of?

I have 3 systems going now.

Olympus OM - I have my grandpa's camera and lenses. I'm going to keep this one.
  • OM1N body
  • Zuiko 28/3.5
  • Zuiko 50/1.8
  • Zuiko 135/3.5
  • Tokina 75-150/3.8
  • Olympus T20 flash

Canon EOS - I got this on a whim a couple months ago. I wanted a 620 like granddad had. I found a 630 on ebay for $6 and got it. Needed a lens; found an A2/5 with a nice 35-135 for $50 and bought it. That shop also had a Quantaray 24/2.8 for $50, so I bought that too. I was looking to add a fast prime; I like 35, but their 35/2 go for nearly $200!

Nikon - No sentimental value to this system, but it is the most complete and I have some great glass for it:
  • Nikkor 35/2 AI
  • Nikkor 50/1.4 AI
  • Nikkor 50/1.8 AI-S
  • Nikkor 50/1.8 Series E
  • Nikkor 105/2.5 AI
  • Nikkor 28-105/3.5-4.5 D
  • Nikkor 75-300/3.5-4.5 D
  • Vivitar (Kiron) 75-205/3.8 AI-S
  • Tokina AT-X28-85/3.5-4.5 AI-S
  • N90s (F90x) body
  • FG body

The EOS AF system is better, but I don't have much glass for it. However, if I were to sell off the Nikon stuff, I could add what I needed, and this would be a good AF compliment to the Olympus MF system, which will stay no matter what.

The Nikon system is contiguous, between MF and AF, which is VERY nice. Also, it has more lens options, due to their compatibility decision in the late 80s. I've been hankering for an F4 too, but there's no reason I need one. It doesn't practically do anything the N90s won't do for me. Matrix metering with AI lenses might be nice, but I don't know that I'd miss it, as I only shoot B&W when I shoot film.

I can't decide between the poll options. Let me know what you think.

What would you do in my place, and why?
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Old 12-13-2019   #2
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I’d sell the Canon system. Is your FG black and has the finger grip?
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Old 12-13-2019   #3
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I’d sell the Canon system. Is your FG black and has the finger grip?
No, chrome, but has the finger grip.

I actually have two of them, (one for my daughter) $30 ea. (one from Goodwill, one from ebay)
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Old 12-13-2019   #4
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I would keep the Nikon kit. The F mount compatibility is so deep. I have a few other systems that are great, but don't see much use :
Olympus (2 bodies & glass)
Minolta MD (2 bodies & glass)
Minolta Maxxum (1 body & glass)
Pentax M42 (2 bodies & glass)
The Nikkor glass is used on my film & digital bodies. So that makes difference to me.
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Old 12-13-2019   #5
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Are you for been sentimental or about taking some pictures? Or else?
Picture wise and simplicity EOS would take them all for the ride.
But having EOS including L, personally, I'm finding more in use of old Nikons.
Partually because no batteries are needed, partially because MF works better for me on the daily street.

I recommend to find the honest reason to keep and then check if here is any realistic plans to use.
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Old 12-13-2019   #6
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I would buy a farm and raise veggie's.

Just kidding.
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This is crazy talk! Keep them all.
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Old 12-13-2019   #8
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Yeah, keep all of it, but I’d tidy up the Canon stuff to keep it strictly for joy riding.
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After my love/hate (mostly hate) relationship with the Leica M8 I ditched the M system along with ALL of my M lenses in favor of Canon (5DmkII - later upgraded to the mkIII) ultimately adding several Canon zoom and prime lenses.

I then ditched the entire Canon system in favor of Leica when the M-P 240 was released (that camera revived my love for the Leica M system)! Now I'm once again fully entrenched with Leica, but now with more after-market M lenses than ever before.
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After my love/hate (mostly hate) relationship with the Leica M8 I ditched the M system along with ALL of my M lenses in favor of Canon (5DmkII - later upgraded to the mkIII) ultimately adding several Canon zoom and prime lenses.

I then ditched the entire Canon system in favor of Leica when the M-P 240 was released (that camera revived my love for the Leica M system)! Now I'm once again fully entrenched with Leica, but now with more after-market M lenses than ever before.
I cringe at the thought of how much the buying in, selling and re-buying into Leica must have cost you.

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Old 12-13-2019   #11
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In the OP's position I would do whatever was necessary to make his grandfather's Olympus a workable system and find new homes for the Canons and Nikons. My LTM Leica system - the only system I use - is based on my father's IIIc.
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If you can afford doing it, I would not sell any equipment. They are so much fun to use. I have mostly Canon FD equipment with lenses from 7.5mm to 500mm. I also have a limited set of Nikon lenses and cameras, and some Rolleiflex SL cameras and lenses.
I also have several Pentax screwmount bodies and lenses.
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I cringe at the thought of how much the buying in, selling and re-buying into Leica must have cost you.

Yea - and this, at least in part, is why my current lens arsenal isn't all Leica.
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Old 12-13-2019   #14
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Keep the EOS and get a cheap OM-EOS Adapter to use your Zuikos.
Get an EF 1,8/50 to have a fast AF-Prime.
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Old 12-13-2019   #15
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If you can’t decide then offer up both and let the market decide for you.
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Old 12-13-2019   #16
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I voted for other because if I were in your position, I would keep the Olympus system and sell the Nikon and Canon systems.
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As someone with no brain, this is no-brainer easy
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As someone with no brain, this is no-brainer easy

Dear Smaug,

You're keeping the Olympus stuff.

Take the value out of the Nikon stuff and use it where it best suits your needs.

If you want to have AF gear stick to Canon. Rudimentary Canon AF gear soundly beats rudimentary Nikon gear.

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Old 12-13-2019   #18
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On the other hand, I actually use the following nine systems: Olympus, Nikon, Canon, Leica, Fuji, Mamiya, Pentax, Calumet, and Contax.

Therefore, I propose that you accumulate a few more systems.
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Old 12-14-2019   #19
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I have 3 systems going now.

Olympus OM ... Canon EOS ... Nikon ...
I've also got Olympus (OM-1n + 5 lenses) and Nikon (FG, D850 + 13 lenses) slr systems. I had Canons back in the FD days, but switched to Olympus when they abandoned the mount.

I rarely shoot film with anything except a Leica or Polaroid camera now, so my OM is a beautiful relic. As you pointed out, Nikon lenses all work on the 850 as well. So I won't sell them either.

So obviously I'd ditch the Canon stuff. Eos cameras kinda look like Darth Vader anyway.

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The EOS AF system is better, but I don't have much glass for it. However, if I were to sell off the Nikon stuff, I could add what I needed, and this would be a good AF compliment to the Olympus MF system, which will stay no matter what.

The Nikon system is contiguous, between MF and AF, which is VERY nice. Also, it has more lens options, due to their compatibility decision in the late 80s. I've been hankering for an F4 too, but there's no reason I need one. It doesn't practically do anything the N90s won't do for me. Matrix metering with AI lenses might be nice, but I don't know that I'd miss it, as I only shoot B&W when I shoot film.
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If you want superior AF, look into an F5 instead of F4. Find one with the factory non-AI mod done, and you can shoot any old, and most* new lenses made by/for Nikon. I like the F5's handling better than the F6.

*some of the newest low priced zoom lenses - P type - are intended for use only with the latest D3XXX and D5XXX entry level cameras. They do not AF - or MF - with anything else.

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If you can’t decide then offer up both and let the market decide for you.
No! We therapists call that "External locus of control." One cannot avoid making decisions, because not to decide is still a decision. I suggest he wait until he knows what he wants to do.
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Keep and, perhaps, expand the Olympus outfit.


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I'd invest in a Sony A7xxx body and some adapters and shoot all the stuff you already have.
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The one you least enjoy using or the results there from.
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you could also get an ais to eos adapter to use the nikon mf lenses
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I have my grandfathers chrome FG with 50/1.8 E.

Small and fun. Keep the Nikons.
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Sell the Nikon stuff as the olympus has sentimental value and you will get far more cash for the Nikkor glass.You could always add to the OM, get another body maybe OM4, 24mm 2.8 and 100mm 2.8 and you have a great light weight system that will match any Nikon glass.
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Lose the sentiment, sell the Oly gear. Then use the Canon and Nikon stuff a lot.
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Lose the sentiment, sell the Oly gear. Then use the Canon and Nikon stuff a lot.
Another proposal: sell all Oly and Nikon gear.

Take the chance to build a new system that exactly fits to your needs.
Canon EF is the mount with the widest range of available and adaptable lenses in the world.

This could be the functional side.
The emotional factor may get more precision then and perhaps you will find a lovely camera on the top once you get rid of old stuff?
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I voted for store one system, though might as well went for the last explanatory "Other" option:

I'd keep the Olympus regardless. OM1N and 50 1.8 isn't that expensive on the market, but it was your granddad's and it is an excellent camera.

I actually have an OM1 system similar to yours, 28/3.5, 50/1.8 MIJ and 135/3.5. But the body needs a CLA so it is stored at home. After that, I got cheaply into Nikon...

Got a Nikon F90 (older version) with a 50/1.8 AF-D and am greatly satisfied by it. However, it is a bit of a heavy thing compared to the manual SLRs. Single point AF but for all my uses it has delivered greatly. Rearrange some of the Nikon system.

If you really need high speed performance and zooms, I find digital covering that end nicely. I myself have a bit of an interesting relationship with 35mm...

As of adding another system, well, yes: Medium Format.

I can understand the appreciation for the Nikons F4-F5 but those things weigh as much as a Fuji 6x9, which no 35mm can compete in Neg/Slide size.
645 SLR systems are quite affordable. Bronica, Pentax, Older Mamiya. Slower, but when I shoot film I tend to be thoughtful and contemplative and now that I have community darkroom access with ability to print all formats, I find using 35mm rather sparsely.

And put more $ towards film, processing and printing.
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I'd say keep the Olympus system. For me, the simpler is the better.
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I'll expand on my one-liner about keeping everything.

So, Olympus: it has sentimental value which you should never discount. Second, it's fully manual and mechanical. There are no proprietary and obsolete electronic chips in it; there aren't complex electromechanical subsystems where each has to function always or otherwise the camera becomes a brick. It can still be maintained and kept functional for many decades to come. The lenses you already have form a good system.

Likewise, your Nikon is a time-proven good camera and lenses you have are good: solid, with good manual focus and aperture rings, infinity stops, legible scales. Yes, you could sell them - but likely you'd enjoy having and using them more. Nikon still makes the 35mm, 50mm, 105mm manual lenses (I think) just because they are so good. More expensive new now, but you already have them.

The EOS system has been a great success for Canon. I can put a new-today EF lens on the very first EOS 650, 620 bodies of 1987 and it'll work perfectly. I can put an old EF lens of 1987 on, for example, a Canon 5D MkIII and it'll work perfectly. So, I'd suggest keeping the Canon system as well - maybe add the new 50/1.8 STM. I've got an old 50/1.8 II which many say is noisy and slow, which is somewhat true, but even with my $20 Rebel G, I've had it nail some spectacular shots wide open (like a spider in a glistening web).
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Too many options. My head is about to explode.

This is my immediate plan:

Keep Olympus. Besides having great sentimental value, these are all low value pieces on the used market. I'll just stop buying for it, unless I find a screamin' deal on a 35 mm prime.

Keep Nikon, I have the good glass for it. The AF lenses won't be too useful for MF, because the focus ring turns too fast to reasonably focus manually. So it's essentially two separate systems. Well, 1-1/2, because the MF lenses are perfectly usable on the N90s body.

EOS... the bodies are probably worth $10 ea. at resale and the lens $50. Not worth selling, considering how good it is. These point & shoot cameras selling for $200+ makes me want to hang onto these, hoping someday, the kids will realize how GOOD it is.
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