M10 Specs Up
Old 09-17-2012   #1
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M10 Specs Up

I guess they're pulling an Apple & ditching the numbers:

http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/m_new/

Features/improvements mostly as predicted (weathersealing is nice surprise).
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Looks like a great camera... but I doubt either it or the ME will be anywhere near being "cheap."
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Old 09-17-2012   #3
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09...d-1080p-movies
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Old 09-17-2012   #4
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live view on rear lcd w focus peaking
keeping OVF
movies
CMOS
R-mount somehow

what else?
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24mPix, CMOS, Live View focusing.

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Old 09-17-2012   #6
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oh, and OPTIONAL EVF. i am wetting myself with laughter about that. how odd. just odd.
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Old 09-17-2012   #7
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Just noticed that it has LED projected framelines like the M9T.
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At least partially weather sealed, good news.

"Special rubber seals now protect the camera body against dust, spray and moisture."
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Old 09-17-2012   #9
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Wheres the illumination window !?
LED illumination. Pffffffffff...
Im liking the M-E more...
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Old 09-17-2012   #10
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And people say Leica ain't popular? They still have enough fans to crash dpreview.com
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Old 09-17-2012   #11
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Ooh. Leica-M-E (Entry)

AKA Leica M-9 without frame selector.

4,800 Euro.

That will keep the price of the M-9 Up! Thank you Leica!

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-.../09/leica-m-e/
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6400 ISO, that's pretty hilarious. Haha. Splash proof is good though. Although that means eff all, define "splash"? Better than nothing perhaps.
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in a case with the R adapter?
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My prediction about M10 with an EVF came true.

I'm amused. lol
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$6300 US is the cheap option... you gotta laugh at that man.
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Anyone see the price on the M10?
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$6300 US is the cheap option... you gotta laugh at that man.
Who are they kidding with this?
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Old 09-17-2012   #18
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$6300 US is the cheap option... you gotta laugh at that man.
If you just got some money and want a Leica, would you buy an M9 or a ME?

ME. Because it has faster write speed compared to M9, not to mention it will be serviced for a bit longer.


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I feel like nostradamus. Should I quote my previous post from another thread where I said they will add features that are a generation old and ad $9000 price tag?
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Old 09-17-2012   #20
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It might be shockingly revolutionary to some and immorally expensive to others (or both), but I have to admit, with some considerable reluctance, that this camera comes closest to what I would consider the ultimate camera. Closer than the OM-D, the RX-1, the NEX-6, the D600/D800 or the XPro-1.
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Old 09-17-2012   #21
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M is somewhere in the $8000 something US range from what I can tell. Better than I expected honestly.
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Calling it just 'M' is going to suck when it comes to google searches
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I vote this the quote of the evening!
Hilarious!

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Crap, they kept the red dot. But, they added a rewind button.

:-)

Oh, my R lenses just increased in value. :-o :-)
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Old 09-17-2012   #25
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Here's another shocker: How long until they come out with a version without the optical rangefinder?
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I wonder WHO made the sensor.

Which company would make such a thing - 24MP CMOS - Panasonic? Sony?

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Who cares about video. But, everything else clicks all the important user needs:
- Live View
- Focus Peaking
- Accurate "heads up" frame iines
- EVF
- High-res back screen
- High-impact back screen
- Adapter for R lenses
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I wonder WHO made the sensor.

Which company would make such a thing - 24MP CMOS - Panasonic? Sony?

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Sony most likely.

Prices are, according to a random DPR user who spoke over the phone with a Leica employee just now:
M-E $5450
M $6950

Not sure how reliable that info is though.
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Sensor by REU (Random European) Company.

Cheaper by Sony, but maybe there are licensing issues.
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I think my decision to pick-up a new M9-P recently with the ~$1,500 price reduction is looking like a smart move after all.
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I think my decision to pick-up a new M9-P recently with the ~$1,500 price reduction is looking like a smart move after all.
Yes. I think that prices will stabilize now.
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I can't even work up the will to complain about Leica prices, to be honest. It's the price of a good used car and I'm sure it's a fantastic camera, there will be a long waiting list for the foreseeable future and given the first part of this sentence it's entirely irrelevant to my world/life.
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In looking at the tech sheet for the M(10) I was surprised to see that they made the camera thicker. 42mm(M) vs 37mm (M9). Not that I could afford one I am disappointed in this. I was really hoping to see it get thinner to be more like a film M.
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Sony most likely.

Prices are, according to a random DPR user who spoke over the phone with a Leica employee just now:
M-E $5450
M $6950

Not sure how reliable that info is though.
Those, I believe, are GBP prices based on the other thread showing the M-E as being $5350 GBP.

No real info yet - just my opinion mind you.

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Both cameras got a .68x finder, I wonder if this is the only option? If I were to get a digital M, I'd for one would like the .85x finder at least..
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Sony most likely.

Prices are, according to a random DPR user who spoke over the phone with a Leica employee just now:
M-E $5450
M $6950

Not sure how reliable that info is though.
DPreview is claiming these prices too. Honestly, I would think a few people would be happy with that. If I had a stash of R lenses, that M would certainly make sense.
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Like someone in another thread just posted--time to spend more money stocking up on film.
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How do you focus in video mode? Who wants to use video mode with a Rangefinder? If someone can spend $8K on a camera plus the lenses... I am assuming they should be able to afford a video camera.
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I wonder WHO made the sensor.

Which company would make such a thing - 24MP CMOS - Panasonic? Sony?

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This 24 MP, full 35 mm format sensor was designed and constructed in collaboration with CMOSIS especially for the camera and its use with M- and R-Lenses. This new development successfully transfers the characteristic advantages of CCD sensors, such as natural and brilliant color rendition and impressive reproduction of details, to a CMOS sensor.
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This 24 MP, full 35 mm format sensor was designed and constructed in collaboration with CMOSIS especially for the camera and its use with M- and R-Lenses. This new development successfully transfers the characteristic advantages of CCD sensors, such as natural and brilliant color rendition and impressive reproduction of details, to a CMOS sensor.
Why not just admit that CMOS was used because its great for video and battery life...

Anyway, soon there will be sample images and I can assure you its not going to be a killer compared to Sony sensors. For the simple reason that if it was, Nikon and everyone else would be buying their sensor from CMOSIS rather than their archenemy, Sony.
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