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Is IIIg worth the price > IIIf
Old 06-08-2019   #1
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Is IIIg worth the price > IIIf

A while back I had black paint IId that I really enjoyed but decided the money could be better spent elsewhere. Long story short I miss the LTM platform for "slower" photography (slow films, old slow lenses, slow walks, etc) and would like to purchase another. I really like that the IIIg has parallax correction and actual frame lines but I am wondering if it is really worth the extra ~$200-300 over the IIIf. Those of you with experience with both I would love to hear from.

Side note: whats a good price for Summitar 50 f2, they're all over the place.
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Old 06-08-2019   #2
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I almost bought a IIIg a couple years ago when one showed up at a local shop for a very good price. But decided against it. I already had a IIIf, and the IIIg's slightly larger viewfinder, though better, wasn't enough to sway me even at a IIIf's price. I had it in my hands and handled every setting and thought about it for a long while, but passed.



If I didn't already have a IIIf, I would have bought it! But the differences between it and what I already had weren't great enough to convince me (and it seems this must have been the case for most buyers when the IIIg was new too).
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Old 06-08-2019   #3
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Thought about a IIIg but it is not as pretty. And I prefer the SBOOI external finder and just use the 50.
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I lusted after one but was a bit disappointed to be honest. They don't feel as delicate and fine as a IIIf in the hands and lack the jewel like quality of the smaller screwmount in my opinion.
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Old 06-08-2019   #5
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I lusted after one but was a bit disappointed to be honest. They don't feel as delicate and fine as a IIIf in the hands and lack the jewel like quality of the smaller screwmount in my opinion.
I agree, I had one but when time came to start a gear reduction plan it was one of the first to go.
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Old 06-09-2019   #6
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I love both, use both. I prefer the simplicity, handling, and beauty of IIIG from IIIF RD.


For based on cost I voted IIIF
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Old 06-09-2019   #7
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I lusted after one but was a bit disappointed to be honest. They don't feel as delicate and fine as a IIIf in the hands and lack the jewel like quality of the smaller screwmount in my opinion.
I agree. The smaller IIIf is more agile in use.

The IIIg felt like an M but without the benefit of a combined rangefinder/viewfinder. At the IIIg's price point, I'd spend a couple hundred more for a DS M3.
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Old 06-09-2019   #8
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I agree. The smaller IIIf is more agile in use.

The IIIg felt like an M but without the benefit of a combined rangefinder/viewfinder. At the IIIg's price point, I'd spend a couple hundred more for a DS M3.

Yes I agree ... the camera feels like an M.
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Old 06-09-2019   #9
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As a IIIg owner, based on the cost difference between the two at current prices, I voted for the IIIf.

A Red Dial without the self-timer would be my preference.
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Old 06-09-2019   #10
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A well maintained IIIg with a 50mm lens is a nice combo. Smaller than the M3, (possibly) more accurate focus. Looks cool, too.
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Old 06-09-2019   #11
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The IIIg was the only Leica model I got rid of.

I kept the IIIc and III but I found that the IIIg was not bare-bones enough for the Barnack experience.
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Strange, based on comments it seems like IIIf is the main choice but IIIg is winning slightly in the poll.. however, comments here reflect what I already felt, bang for buck puts the IIIf ahead, and possibly even leaves room in the case for a DS M3.
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Old 06-09-2019   #13
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I got a IIIf with six month warranty from Red Dot in London, which cost half the price of any IIIg I'd seen from random dealers on ebay. With the added security that it had had an overhaul and came with a warranty I figure I got an excellent bargain.

It's a lovely camera too, everything works smooth as silk. A real joy to use.
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Old 06-09-2019   #14
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The IIIG is to the IIIF as the Leica M4 is to the M5. Some love it, some don't. I had one once and even though just a little larger is felt much larger and awkward. I went back to a IIIF ST.
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I got a nice Summitar a couple of years ago for $300. It needed some haze removed but opening them up for a cursory clean and lube is a piece of cake. There is a good tutorial online.
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Old 06-09-2019   #16
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I find that I really prefer the viewfinder on the IIIg. I find no inconvenience with the separate RF/VF windows, I'm quite used to them from using my IIIc's and IIIf's. Been using those since the early 1960's.


I find the slightly larger camera body size of the IIIg advantageous when using my preferred LTM lenses; the Nokton 50mm 1.5 and the Hexanon 50mm 2.4. These are somewhat bulky optics and a better fit for IIIg relative to earlier series Barnack Leicas.

I don't pretend that a IIIg will easily fit into a pocket with either of these lenses. That is the realm of a IIIf with a collapsible 3.5 Elmar.

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Old 06-09-2019   #17
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I got a nice Summitar a couple of years ago for $300. It needed some haze removed but opening them up for a cursory clean and lube is a piece of cake. There is a good tutorial online.
Summitar comment aside, “one camera” I commend you!!! An M2 isn’t a hard choice if you only could have one though..
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Old 06-09-2019   #18
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I think to compare the IIIf and IIIg based on viewfinder experience is like comparing any LTM to any M. It’s just not even fair, the IIIg obviously is better in that sense. The question is however, is that improved viewfinder worth the money, when compared to spending ~$200-300 less for a IIIf or ~$200-300 more for a M camera.. IIIg seems like a weird bridge between the two, mostly because it is/was.

IIIg still ahead in the polls though.
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Old 06-09-2019   #19
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I have both a IIIf RDST and the IIIg. Greatly prefer the IIIg. Or the IIIb. I have two of those...
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Old 06-09-2019   #20
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I have both a IIIf RDST and the IIIg. Greatly prefer the IIIg. Or the IIIb. I have two of those...
The original idea was IIIf or IIIg so I could eventually get a Leicavit, but honestly any LTM would pretty much do the trick.. the IId that started this all was pretty minuscule. A black paint III would also be good!
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Old 06-09-2019   #21
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The IIIg's viewfinder is objectively better than the IIIf's - but that's almost damning with faint praise. Neither is anything to write home about. I think that's the problem, you can find much better viewfinders on a vast assortment of cameras, a good deal of which can be had for less money.
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Old 06-10-2019   #22
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Although I'm only really interested in black cameras I did quite like this, IIIc to IIIf ST conversion.

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Old 06-10-2019   #23
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You can choose III Model F which is smaller than IIIF.
However, IIIG is still the best, the felt is totally different from any M series.

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Old 06-10-2019   #24
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I can reply with some authority on this subject, as I have one of each. And the answer is… if you think so. Or more appropriately, if you spouse/ bank manager/ psychiatrist thinks so. If the priority is taking actual photographs, there are any number of excellent Japanese SLRs available at about an eighth the price of a IIIg. The only real advantage of the g over the f is if you are a 9 cm fan (the standard lens you can guess) and even then you only get the corners of the frame in the viewfinder- which is still, of course separate from the rangefinder.
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I "found" another camera since I wrote that, but I put it back in the drawer.

You should try a IIIc, most SM Leica for the money.


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Summitar comment aside, “one camera” I commend you!!! An M2 isn’t a hard choice if you only could have one though..
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Side note: whats a good price for Summitar 50 f2, they're all over the place.
$250-300 for a clean one. With Clean I mean no scratches/haze/fungus.


I got one and they have some interesting/cute bokeh, but, IMHO, they are hard to work with. Not useless by any any measure, but you have to be very careful with flare, focus, bokeh (it can turn out quite ugly). Otherwise, a great character lens.

Collapsible Summicron will produce more consistent result. Got both and I quite like both of them but I use Summitar mostly for portrait. Summicron for more general usage.

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Also, I own both IIIg and IIIf with self timer. I tend to use IIIf most of the time, since I seldom use the 90mm lens. I use more 35/28mm and 50mm so, for me, not worth it.

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I have both the IIIc and IIIg. I shoot with the IIIc more than the IIIg because I love the size of the IIIc and I rarely shoot with a 90mm lens so having a more compact camera is ideal for me. The IIIg is nice but for the premium over the IIIc I don’t think it’s worth it.
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Old 06-15-2019   #29
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1936 III Mod F
By god what a beautiful rig!! This makes me miss my IId a lot. Maybe a black paint III is the solution to my problems
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Does anyone use their self timers?
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Selfie timer!? I think I used the one on a friends M3 while I was borrowing it
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I have both the g and the f. The g was my first Leica, the f has a leicavit which I love. They are both pure mechanical perfection and a joy to use. I love the g with my 85 nikkor.
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The one I had was a bit of beater! lol





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The one I had was a bit of beater! lol
I can see that. Both the camera and case look like total rubbish.
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Does anyone use their self timers?
I ran a few films through a IIIg a while back. Some exposures were down to a second and I had the camera on a tripod. I used the timer. Why wouldn't I? Its use is not restricted to self portraits.
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IIIg - I wish I had a black one. I have one in chrome.



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I have a IIIf, but I love my black Standard Leica more than the f. I have never had a IIIg.
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I like the IIIG
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I like the IIIG

I've had the IIF RD, IIIF RD with self timer, and IIIG (x 2).
I got rid of the F models.

The adjustable flash synchronizer of the F is very versatile in theory. But it's just a pain to use in practice, as I have to remember what numbers to use.
I use electronic flash as well as bulb flash units with M, FP bulbs. So I had to carry a synchronizer setting chart with me for the F cameras.

The G has a cleaner, more modern look also.
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