Leica M10 Monochrom picture leaked online
Old 01-08-2020   #1
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Leica M10 Monochrom picture leaked online

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Old 01-08-2020   #2
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Ah, yes, Leica continues the tradition of premium models being denoted by a big ol' gnarly hardware-store wood screw over the adjustment port... “Look, he's shooting with the new Hillbilly Special Edition!”
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Old 01-08-2020   #3
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Hate that screw...lol..what the hell were they thinkin..
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Old 01-08-2020   #4
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Ah, yes, Leica continues the tradition of premium models being denoted by a big ol' gnarly hardware-store wood screw over the adjustment port... “Look, he's shooting with the new Hillbilly Special Edition!”
Beats having a big red dot.
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why cant they line up that screw perfectly either in the horizontal or
vertical axis?
That would look krap on a $20 Kiev let alone an $8000 Leica.
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Beats having a big red dot.
No, no it doesnt. Just looks like something fell off and they put that there while waiting for a replacement part.
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I mean who cares about it as an imaging device? It’s all about that crooked screw!

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Old 01-08-2020   #8
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I’m looking forward to it, screw or not. That’s what electrical tape is for.
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Old 01-08-2020   #9
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It is shocking. 2020 and it still looks like from 1956.
So unevfing.
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Old 01-08-2020   #10
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I never noticed that screw before... now I can't take my bloody eyes off it. I like how they changed it slightly from the 262; instead of getting rid of it!
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A bit difficult to comment given the new one and the last iteration look virtually identical except for minor cosmetic changes and one functional one - what appears to be the slightly larger VF window of the M10.
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Old 01-08-2020   #12
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Maybe it's the rangefinder adjustment screw. I wonder how much the accessory Leica screwdriver is - $1500 for the silver and $2500 for the black titanium?
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Yeah, I'm sorry but that screw is so butt-ugly.

Although the new version appears to be flat, as opposed to the previous version being slightly domed. Is that an improvement? Not really sure.

I'll stick with my antique M9 based digitals.

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Maybe it's the rangefinder adjustment screw. I wonder how much the accessory Leica screwdriver is - $1500 for the silver and $2500 for the black titanium?
If you have to ask you can’t afford it.
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I'm sorry. You get a new 41MP sensor and all you can do is complain about a ***** screw! Unbelievable! I'm just hoping it will drive down the prices for the original Monochrom. Always lusted after one but sadly out of reach...
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I'm sorry. You get a new 41MP sensor and all you can do is complain about a ***** screw! Unbelievable! I'm just hoping it will drive down the prices for the original Monochrom. Always lusted after one but sadly out of reach...
S,

Over 7 years ago I bought my MM. 7 years later it is still a great camera. Had the sensor replaced, and at the same time got an overhaul: both for free.

I know the M-246 is a more advanced camera in every way, but the MM still has its charm warts and all.

The only two things it has over a M-246 is its unique rendering (CCD) and to me a better midrange that allows it to transcend formats so that large prints look like medium format and at times with the perfect image capture and clean file even like large format.

BTW I remember the critics from 7 years ago. One poster here on RFF said, "Building a monochrome camera is dumb."

Also know because so many have reacted strongly to hating that mentioned screw, I now have the opinion that I like it a lot. LOL. Makes me want to buy the camera, which I find to be funny.

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No, no it doesnt. Just looks like something fell off and they put that there while waiting for a replacement part.

Isn't that screw used for RF adjustment?
I guess the RF is weak it needs to be adjusted as you go
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I find it amusing that that screw is so offensive to you guys. I've always felt the red dot was truly awful. I will always cover the dot with tape; however ugly and ridiculous the tape looks, it's 1000 times better than that stupid red dot. So to me the screw is a huge improvement. It looks simple and utilitarian; right in keeping with Leica's industrial minimalist aesthetic. Oh well; to each his own, I guess.
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S,

Over 7 years ago I bought my MM. 7 years later it is still a great camera. Had the sensor replaced, and at the same time got an overhaul: both for free.

I know the M-246 is a more advanced camera in every way, but the MM still has its charm warts and all.

The only two things it has over a M-246 is its unique rendering (CCD) and to me a better midrange that allows it to transcend formats so that large prints look like medium format and at times with the perfect image capture and clean file even like large format.

BTW I remember the critics from 7 years ago. One poster her on RFF said, "Building a monochrome camera is dumb."

Also know because so many have reacted strongly to hating that mentioned screw, I now have the opinion that I like it a lot. LOL. Makes me want to buy the camera, which I find to be funny.

Cal

I think Monochrome is the best and most value camera that Leica makes. I can replace an M10 (yes Fujifilm) but there is nothing out there to replace Monochrome. And the output is unbelievable, love it.
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Personally no problem with the screw, if a buy a camera it is a tool not something to look at but I understand somebody doesn't like it!

Interesting camera but I do not need 41 MP ...for me 24 are more than ok!

Do I think to buy it? No, but I would like to try one just to compare the B&W with the one I get from the M10.
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The screw is bigger, flat. I like it. I’m still coming to terms with the missing frame line illumination window of recent digital Leicas, but this new screw helps defuse my resistance. Interesting.
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The screw is bigger, flat. I like it. I’m still coming to terms with the missing frame line illumination window of recent digital Leicas, but this new screw helps defuse my resistance. Interesting.
Richard,

Someone should start a poll focusing not on the merits of a new camera, but the single screw on the proposed M10M.

Should provide mucho conflict and somehow sadly reflects the era we live in of polarizing and division that is happening around the world.

Pretty high entertainment value. LOL. Let's sort this out before we launch missiles.

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I like the domed screw slightly more than the flat one, more vintage looking.
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Richard,

Someone should start a poll focusing not on the merits of a new camera, but the single screw on the proposed M10M.

Should provide mucho conflict and somehow sadly reflects the era we live in of polarizing and division that is happening around the world.

Pretty high entertainment value. LOL. Let's sort this out before we launch missiles.

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This is a great idea
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This is a great idea
Robert,

Call me a Drama Queen. Great conflict and all about a single screw.

It is a great time to be a photographer.

It is kinda funny how one word, "Leica" can annoy people. LOL.

Almost like a great sitcom, with a slaptick bent, no matter what Leica does they get beat down. I'm howling...

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Cal, it seems there are lots of foxes around who can’t reach / afford the grapes so they must be sour. ;-)
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Cal, it seems there are lots of foxes around who can’t reach / afford the grapes so they must be sour. ;-)
Cut us some slack, it's about the only chance we get in today's world to laugh at the ruling class.
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Richard,

Someone should start a poll focusing not on the merits of a new camera, but the single screw on the proposed M10M.

Should provide mucho conflict and somehow sadly reflects the era we live in of polarizing and division that is happening around the world.

Pretty high entertainment value. LOL. Let's sort this out before we launch missiles.

Cal
Poll is up, BTW. Just for fun/to prolong the agony.
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Cal, it seems there are lots of foxes around who can’t reach / afford the grapes so they must be sour. ;-)
Please. Poking fun at obvious design flaws is just that.

Sour grapes seems to be the de facto fall back position brought in by those who confuse their own envy as jealousy in others, unable to view (unsolicited, and ultimately superficial) criticism as unrelated to their own desires.

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It looks amazing. I do still wish that Leica would build a monochrome sensor camera with a 4 or 5 stop nd filter array over some of the sensor pixels to increase the highlight exposure range. Cameras can process the rgb input from bayer filter sensors so it should be trivial to implement, but it hasn’t been done. There are still plenty of situations where the highlight rendition and/or the way highlights blend to pure white is a lot less nice than it was on film.

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... There are still plenty of situations where the highlight rendition and/or the way highlights blend to pure white is a lot less nice than it was on film.

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Agreed. A problem I was battling yesterday on an M9 file and today on several X1D files. Shooting in full sun in snowy deciduous woods today, lots of abrupt highlight disappearance. There used to be a contrast reducing filter I used when shooting slides, it would help fairly well in certain light. On my list to research and see if I can track one down to experiment with.
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It is kinda funny how one word, "Leica" can annoy people. Cal
Or make them very happy...
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The screw is hot. Industrial chic. The fact that leica is continuing to make these Monochrom cameras elevates them over everyone else. Mega cool.
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I'm going to wait for the Torx version.
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My MA has a similar screw! Inconceivable!



Utterly unacceptable so I threw the whole thing in the trash.

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Hey huss, I'm sorry you found out about the screw. I know it must feel awful, unusable, dirty. How dare they put that screw there.
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Hey huss, I'm sorry you found out about the screw. I know it must feel awful, unusable, dirty. How dare they put that screw there.
On the upside I now have something new to talk about with my therapist. She was getting tired of my “why cant I buy tasty falafels in LA?” rants.
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