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Old 05-18-2019   #1
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Anyone switched back from Fuji X-System to DSLR?

Today I grabbed again my old Nikon D700 with the cheap AF Nikkor 50mm 1.8D and what an overall difference with the Fuji X-T1, X-Pro2, X100S and X100F! Anyone else had the same - or similar experience?
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Old 05-18-2019   #2
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I went from Fuji to a Nikon Df and then back to Fuji. If I go Nikon again, it would be for the Z. I think I'm done with DSLRs. I like seeing my exact metering in my VF.
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Old 05-18-2019   #3
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Today I grabbed again my old Nikon D700 with the cheap AF Nikkor 50mm 1.8D and what an overall difference with the Fuji X-T1, X-Pro2, X100S and X100F! Anyone else had the same - or similar experience?
I've done that, used Fuji and went back to the Nikon D700, it's a great
camera and flash system.
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I don't need to buy X, Z, R, A and so on. It's easy. Every time I just play with one in the store, I'm back to DSLR as most confident image taker.
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My canon kit is for shooting events or concerts. The Leica can’t keep up with a fast paced event, and the Xpro2 didn’t live up to what I wanted in low light. The canon with the “holy trinity” L lenses have never disappointed me. They are just too damned heavy and bulky to carry around as a daily camera.
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I have a D4 that I bought used a few years ago that I thought about selling until I realised that aside from it's bulk it is more capable than any other camera I own. I'll use it until it breaks ... which could be a while I suspect!
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My Canon kit is gone, but I already had pretty much become just a fuji shooter already. I did go up the scale with fuji from X to G.
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Anyone switched back from Fuji X-System to DSLR?
No !

Just like I did not vacillate between 35mm film rangefinders and 35mm SLR film cameras, I do not vacillate between Fuji digital mirrorless and DSLR cameras. I just use them both.
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Old 05-18-2019   #9
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No... at least not yet... maybe not switch back but shoot both systems.

Had a D800e and D500 and last year, I decided to give the Fuji X-T2 a try. I liked it (still do), but it was just not fulfilling. I don't know how else to describe it. Finally, I got a D850 a few weeks ago and everything is right with the world.

I don't know if I'll give up the X-T2; it's nice to have a lightweight system. But I somehow feel happier when shooting the D850.
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I haven't shot with DSLR since the Pentax Ist and was never big on SLRs. I doid have a Leica R6 that was beautiful camera. Recently I helped my son trade away an X E2 and cash for a D800. He loves the Nikon, and I have to say I really enjoy shooting that camera and have considered maybe looking at one for myself......would be the D850. I have more cameras than time so it won't be anytime soon.
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I recently scrolled down some of my DSLR pics from about 10 years ago, and they look nice. This said, I'll stick with Fuji for a variety of reasons, weight/size of the DSLR and lenses included.
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I still have my Canon gear. But its days in my possession are numbered. There's no denying how good the pictures were that I made with it. And I still like optical viewfinders over electronic ones. But the XPro2 has now become familiar and second nature for me.

I tried using the Canon recently and I still have the muscle memory after all those years using various models but it's too much like a boat anchor compared to the Fuji XPro and XT bodies. And when the doctors talk about my spine with terms like scoliosis, stenosis, spondylosis and disc herniations, it's time to stop dragging around anchors.
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Today I grabbed again my old Nikon D700 with the cheap AF Nikkor 50mm 1.8D and what an overall difference with the Fuji X-T1, X-Pro2, X100S and X100F! Anyone else had the same - or similar experience?
Everytime I take one of my old DSLRs with optical viewfinder I have the same
thoughts: "is it really switched on?" and "how bulky and loud".

So I wouldn´t switch back. No way.

Fascinations from the old gear like the Leica R3 or EOS5D give me a kind of retro-feeling which is really enjoyable.

But for my everyday photography the Fuji X and Sonys do the best job. Even with a simple AF 1,8/50 from time to time
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I've done that, used Fuji and went back to the Nikon D700, it's a great
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I don't need to buy X, Z, R, A and so on. It's easy. Every time I just play with one in the store, I'm back to DSLR as most confident image taker.
That's how I feel. I've been very happy with my D700. Except for trying a different lens every so often, I'm staying with the D700. And I keep a D300 around for the crop factor, which I find useful at times.
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I enjoyed using the D700 for weddings and lifestyle shooting. That said, the image quality out of an X-Pro2 beats it in every way.
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That's how I feel. I've been very happy with my D700. Except for trying a different lens every so often, I'm staying with the D700. And I keep a D300 around for the crop factor, which I find useful at times.
On top of it all of those complains about weight and size are not really relevant. X-Pro is huge. And it can't do much better than digital Canon Rebel, which is same size if not more compact. Pancake lens and small kit lens, which is very capable. Plus, Rebels battery will last much longer.

And if not Fuij OVF, then every time I put any EVF to my eye, crap..., I wont see the world as human, but like terminator.
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I shoot RF, x100t, & full frame (d)SLR... the subject matter usually determines what system I select... sometimes I wonder about my decision making process.
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Old 05-19-2019   #18
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Honestly, my experience was just the opposite.

In the spring of 2014 I used a D700 and X-T1 side-by-side. The cameras were switched on a tripod using Arca Swiss mounts for a Golden Hour commercial shoot of a luxury home exterior. The X-T1 and D700 raw files rendered with essentially identical perceived resolution and shadow region detail. So, I purchased the FUJINON 10-24/4 lens and compared results from an interiors photography gig to the D700 with a Nikon AF-S 16-35mm f/4G ED VR lens. The FUJIFILM files rendered with significantly lower levels of moiré artifacts. Otherwise the results were similar. Again, the camera locations were on a tripod (essentially identical) as were the external flash placements. I decided to switch to FUJIFILM for all my commercial work and carried the D700 as a back up.

After a few weeks I realized the FUJINON 10-24/4 lens was superior to the Nikon 16-35. When I had to shoot a residence exterior facing the sun, the Fujinon exhibited much lower levels of ghosting and flare. I also noticed the interior images required much less work to minimize perceived distortions common with very wide angles of view. For a ~100 degree field-of-view (12mm and 18mm respectively for APSC and FX) this difference was significant.

I also realized with .RAF raw total post-production time required deliver 20-24 photos to clients was about 20% shorter compared to D700 .NEFs.

I sold all my Nikon gear (2 D700s, about 10 lenses) and picked up a second X-T1 and the XF 14/2.8 as a back up system. Instead of carrying two rolling suitcases and a tripod bag for every gig I could use just a medium size backpack, one rolling suitcase (lighting gear) an a tripod bag. This was a welcome change (especially when I worked on the third floor of walk-up condo units).

The only circumstance where I would have keep the D700 would be if I was doing action photography. The D700 AF (when properly set up) is excellent for action photography.

Of course the D700 was four years older than the X-T1. Sensor technologies improved a lot during that period. My X-Pro 2 raw files are significantly superior to the X-T1's.

On a purely subjective level, the longitudinal chromatic aberration levels of all my Nikon lenses (primes, old and new) always annoyed me. Back then you had to buy Nikon's Capture NX software to correct LCA (transverse CA was an easy to fix with any decent raw rendering platform). This doubled my annoyance. By comparison all my Fujinon lenses exhibited relatively low levels of LCA. I much prefer the using FUJINON glass.
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The only circumstance where I would have keep the D700 would be if I was doing action photography. The D700 AF (when properly set up) is excellent for action photography.
When I had the XP1 I hung onto my D700 for action work. With the XP2 there was no need, its AF-C was faster/better than the D700. Esp. with the Fuji 100-400. Battery life with that lens in AF-C with continuous shooting was less than an hour though.

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Timely discussion for me. I went from a full Canon system to an all Fuji about 6 years ago mainly to save weight. At the time, and for 20+ years prior, I was doing a lot of editorial travel work, mostly for airline mags. That has changed. I now shoot architectire and group portraits which would benefit from a larger than APS-C sensor. I tried Sony, an A7II and didn't really like it. In fact, I don't like any of the mirrorless full frame options. Only Sony is ready for prime time. Now, I notice that the Nikon D750 is well discounted. I would need 2 bodies, a zoom, and 2 fast primes, much less than I used to travel with. One drawback I could use opinions on, is the D750 flipdown LCD useable for focusing reasonably fast? Any others considering going from Fuji X to D750?
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Honestly, my experience was just the opposite.

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After a few weeks I realized the FUJINON 10-24/4 lens was superior to the Nikon 16-35. When I had to shoot a residence exterior facing the sun, the Fujinon exhibited much lower levels of ghosting and flare. I also noticed the interior images required much less work to minimize perceived distortions common with very wide angles of view. For a ~100 degree field-of-view (12mm and 18mm respectively for APSC and FX) this difference was significant.

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Nothing to do with what the OP was looking for, but I just wanted to add as I have a time or two before, that back in the mid-70s I found the same with a Fujinon 28mm f/3.5. Looking directly into the sun, I had to search had to find any flare. Amazing lenses imho.
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Timely discussion for me. I went from a full Canon system to a all Fuji about 6 years ago mainly to save weight. At the time, and for 20+ years prior, I was doing a lot of editorial travel work, mostly for airline mags. That has changed. I now shoot architectire and group portraits which would benefit from a larger than APS-C sensor. I tried Sony, an A7II and didn't really like it. In fact, I don't like any of the mirrorless full frame options. Only Sony is ready for prime time. Now, I notice that the Nikon D750 is well discounted. I would need 2 bodies, a zoom, and 2 fast primes, much less than I used to travel with. One drawback I could use opinions on, is the D750 flipdown LCD useable for focusing reasonably fast? Any others considering going from Fuji X to D750?
NO! The Live View function of the D750 is glacially slow. Pretty much worthless IMHO.
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Thanks PhotoMat. That's a deal breaker for me. Is the Nikon D850 any better in this regard? Being tall, I've become hooked on the flip down LCD. And the Fuji XT2 flips vertically too, great for portraits. I have a feeling that I'll circle around the various brands/models and just stick with Fuji, work on improving my post skills.
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Thanks PhotoMat. That's a deal breaker for me. Is the Nikon D850 any better in this regard?...

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Thanks for your input. What I noticed is that the D700 needs zero time to wake up and is already shooting. Focusing is spot on 99% of the time with the D700. Even at ISO 6,400 the D700 images are crisp - contrary to Fuji (specially the X100F) where one can see some fuzziness and bad noise even at ISO 3,200. Last but not least, the build of the D700! Oh my, it feels like one is holding a real camera, and I even don't have really big hands. But all of this is just my personal perception.
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I'll confess that I was disappointed in the X-trans sensor over the Bayer sensor in the X100. Even now it has issues in Lightroom. I got Capture One for Fuji with my new camera and I'll have to see if it is any better.
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Being one of the last of the Luddites and living in a small town without a real camera store, I have only seen a proper DSLR from a distance. When I bought a digital it was a little Fuji because, of course, it seemed like the right thing to do, but the price of an original Canon 5D or similar Nikon is awfully tempting these days. They look like incredible value to me. I could keep a few lenses, dump a bunch of cameras and still have more than I will ever need.
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Being one of the last of the Luddites and living in a small town without a real camera store, I have only seen a proper DSLR from a distance. When I bought a digital it was a little Fuji because, of course, it seemed like the right thing to do, but the price of an original Canon 5D or similar Nikon is awfully tempting these days. They look like incredible value to me. I could keep a few lenses, dump a bunch of cameras and still have more than I will ever need.
In a similar position myself. Not really happy with my digitals (Oly e-m5.1 and Nikon D5200) for various reasons and want to consolidate to one camera.
D700 is very cheap these days, and would hopefully be a digital version of my beloved F4.

However an original x-t1 is also similarly cheap, and I expect with it's dials rather than buttons be more like a Nikon SLR than a Nikon DSLR would...

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Horses for courses, I have an X-E2 and D700 and use both. X-E2 is great for travel and quick record shots but D700 is good for everything else, especially events. I much prefer the haptics of the D700 with so much of what's useful up on the top deck, the X-E2 is fiddly by comparison. Also the third party flash I bought a few years ago for the D700 is excellent in every way, not sure about external flash for Fuji as I've never used one. Nice also to have the option of using all those manual Nikon primes that I've ended up with.
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I'll confess that I was disappointed in the X-trans sensor over the Bayer sensor in the X100. Even now it has issues in Lightroom. I got Capture One for Fuji with my new camera and I'll have to see if it is any better.
I had some issues with the X-trans sensor and Lightroom but then I started using Iridient X-transformer+LR and the problems were solved. I've tried both Capture One and Luminar 3 but I'm too comfortable and accustomed to LR to change.
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