Leica M3. Zeiss Hologon 16/8
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Leica M3. Zeiss Hologon 16/8

I have tried using my Hologon with the M240, M9, and M8. The M8 crops the view to that of a 21mm lens, and then the colors in the edges are fine. This time, I tried using the Hologon with an M3 and some old film just to see the corners and the overall rendition. I may have underexposed images as I did not have with me a meter. I guessed the exposure. I may switch to a Bessa T next.

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I will upload other images from same roll of film. I mailed it to Dwayne's Photo for developing and scanning.
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I have tried using my Hologon with the M240, M9, and M8. The M8 crops the view to that of a 21mm lens, and then the colors in the edges are fine. This time, I tried using the Hologon with an M3 and some old film just to see the corners and the overall rendition. I may have underexposed images as I did not have with me a meter. I guessed the exposure. I may switch to a Bessa T next.

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Impressive, I particularly like the colour and clarity in the sky.


Out of interest, did you scan these on an Epson flatbed? The horizontal green/blue line visible in most of these shots occurs if the calibration area has any dirt on it. Easy fix, just clean with a microfibre cloth.
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Nice photographs.

Reminds me from when I served in the Navy. Long time ago.

Good job Raid.
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Thanks. The scanning was done "professionally" by Dwayne's Photo. Could these effects be due to an outdated film [maybe by 5 years]?


























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That lens just sings on film don’t it?

Unfortunately my fingers like to sing with it. So compact and wide I’d get my fingers in the frame.
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Those beach silhouettes have me drooling all over myself. Lovely.
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That lens just sings on film don’t it?

Unfortunately my fingers like to sing with it. So compact and wide I’d get my fingers in the frame.
I was stubborn, and I kept using digital cameras. I may simply attach a Bessa T to the lens and use it only with film. There is no need to focus, and the meter is excellent in the T.

edited: Just found out that the Bessa T does not work with the Hologon. I am leaving it on the M3.
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Those beach silhouettes have me drooling all over myself. Lovely.
Thank you very much. We are fortunate to have such sunsets quite often.
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Effects? Who knows. Hard to tell.

Just have a glass of wine, maybe it’ll take two, and they’ll go away.
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Never thought of this PP approach, Bill!
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Super shots.
The lens is very sharp, is not it?
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Thanks. Yes, the lens seems to be very sharp with film. It is like a different lens as compared to using this lens with a digital camera.
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There is a line across each image here. Is it due to the scanning or did the M3 cause it?
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Raid, is there no problem mounting the Hologon on your M3? The focusing lever of my Hologon hits the frame choosing lever of my M3 if I try to do this. Or do you have an M3 from the first series?


The line on your pictures can be caused by dirt on the scanner.



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Super images with that super wide Hologon..
Your exposures are fine!
OD film loses speed, but slight.
Lines on scan is scanning fault..
Should re-scan..
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Super images with that super wide Hologon..
Your exposures are fine!
OD film loses speed, but slight.
Lines on scan is scanning fault..
Should re-scan..
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I converted 16/8 Hologon to M mount using mount replacing adapter. Focusing lever was hitting lens release button and frame selector lever. Some minor filing fixed button side. Bending focusing lever up a tiny bit fixed rubbing on selector side.
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My M3 has serial number around 920k. It lets me easily mount on it the Hologon and then take photos. The Bessa T let’s me mount this lens on it, but no shutter release is then possible. If the scanner caused the fine line, this is OK.
I will most likely replace my M8 with the M3 this Summer during a trip.
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Sam: you are brave to do such adaptations. I sent my lens to DAG.
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So this was made with a Hologon... I like it very much!!

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Raid,
It was a relatively straight forward procedure, once replacement barrel came in. I am still running a roll of film, so no results. If needed, focus can be tweaked. It was your conversion that gave this idea.
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So this was made with a Hologon... I like it very much!!

Thanks for sharing, Raid.
Thanks. Yes, it is the Zeiss Hologon 16/8 re-issue for the G1/G2 cameras. The original Hologon 15mm is a collector's item now. DAG changed the mount to M. This is the first time in which I am able to see the sharpness and clarity with film.
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Raid,
The line through the middle of the images looks like a scratch to me. Check your negatives if you got them back. Could have happened in the M3 or during processing the film.
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How can I tell if the scratch was caused by the backplate of the M3? What should I look for on the negatives? If I see the negative scratched, how can we tell if it was caused by the M3 or by the developing process or scanning process of the negatives?
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You would have to see what side of the negative the scratch is on. If it is on the base side, probably caused by the film back in the M3. If it is on the emulsion side of the film, no doubt caused by a roller in a film processor.

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Is the emulsion side the glossy side of the negative or is that the base?
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That lens is so wide and sharp...right out to the corners..
That it ripped a hole in the space time continuum..
The line you see..is a rip in the cosmic fabric..to another universe...lol..
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Emile: you have solved the Mystery of the Rip in the Cosmic Fabric!
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You did it Raid..you and that...lens! You are the key master! Use it with care! Hahaha!
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The base (back) is the glossy side. The emulsion is matte. Look from the glossy side to see the image correct and to read the numbers correct.


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Thanks. Yes, it is the Zeiss Hologon 16/8 re-issue for the G1/G2 cameras. The original Hologon 15mm is a collector's item now.

The 16mm is a much better lens. Incredible in fact.


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The 16mm is a much better lens. Incredible in fact.


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Raid..how much is the DAG conversion?...and turnaround time?
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Emile: DAG charges $500. Turnaround time is about 3-4 weeks. Always check if he is busy or not. It is 6 bit coded and tested by him.
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Thx Raid! Thinkin about it..my B-day is coming up...lol..
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Here are some images from the second roll. Can you see any lines here?

This was the last frame, with 50% cropped off.


flaring up without a lenshood



















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Beautiful work, Raid! Finally your Hologon works as it should! Impressive.


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Thanks a lot, Erik. I had $1500 for something very special, and I knew that it had to be a unique lens. My wife then chipped in $500 for the mount conversion.
It is amazing how much better the Hologon works with film than with a digital sensor. There is sharpness and a sense of wideness but all without distortion.
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