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Old 12-28-2016   #1
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Let's talk Leica Standard

Show your Leica Standard and tell the story of it.
If it doesn't have a story, make one up!

I got mine from an individual in Japan, I even "google-street-viewed" his address, creepy huh?
It was a body-only with lugs, which are sort of rare on a Standard. The serial no. puts it at 1938, considered a later Model E.
When I got it, all the movable parts worked fine, but sounded "dry", and the covering, while intact, was loose part-way around and felt cracky. I sent it to Youxin right away for a cla and new cover. He said it was in "really good condition".

I got a nice late Elmar in "feet" from Camera West at a good price, the focus lever arm was bent slightly, which I bent back just right.
It is wearing a Industar 22 now, having moved the Elmar over to my IIIc. I hope to buy another Elmar soon, maybe a '38, but it has to be in feet also.
I love carrying it around in my pocket, but feel conspicuous shooting it, because it looks antique. Other than that, it is a lot of fun to own.

Do you have a Standard? Please show it off here!



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Old 12-28-2016   #2
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One is on my "want" list. I'd love a pocket Leica.
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Old 12-28-2016   #3
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The Industar looks very good on it.
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Would love to have one one day. For now I settle with the "modern" version of it: IF with SBOOI and Elmar 50/2.8.

Btw, how do you set 1/20 to 1 sec shutter speed on that camera?
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Old 12-28-2016   #5
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You don't. The speeds you see on the selector are what you get (which includes 1/20). Only later did Leica add slow speeds to the cameras. Nice to see one of these w/ strap lugs.
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You don't. The speeds you see on the selector are what you get. Only later did Leica add slow speeds to the cameras.
The selector does have 20-1 in the pic. I guess the original dial was replaced with an later model at some point. I wonder what speed you'll get if you set the dial to 20-1. I often wish my IF had a bit slower speed.
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Hi,
Someone else said the speed dial was later, but I think it is original, that in 1938 it would have the same dial as the III's because that was the current production. I've seen lots of Standards with the same dial.
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The selector does have 20-1 in the pic. I guess the original dial was replaced with an later model at some point. I wonder what speed you'll get if you set the dial to 20-1. I often wish my IF had a bit slower speed.
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I own a black Standard in which the 50mm finder was removed and replaced with a second accessory finder. I often use a 21mm lens with the Standard.
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Raid, you see the Standards with accessory finders a lot, but I don't find a problem at all with the fixed finder for 50mm.

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Went in the mail today: a Leica Standard from 1933, postwar converted to a IIf. I don't know if that qualifies
It qualifies if you post a picture!
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Raid, you see the Standards with accessory finders a lot, but I don't find a problem at all with the fixed finder for 50mm.



It qualifies if you post a picture!
How would you use a wide angle lens?
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Aim it in the general direction of the subject!
I'm a 50mm only guy.

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How would you use a wide angle lens?
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Someone else said the speed dial was later, but I think it is original, that in 1938 it would have the same dial as the III's because that was the current production. I've seen lots of Standards with the same dial.
Interesting. If you put it to 20-1 position, do you get slower than 1/30 sec?
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Mine is from 1938 (the Model E) same as David's with the 20-1 option on the dial.
My guess is they used standardized dials at that point.



Mine came from KEH.com as "Inoperative" ....I so far have not found out what's supposed to be inoperative about it.
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Old 12-29-2016   #14
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With the end of production the larger speed dial they are all marked 20-1 whether the speeds are there or not so I guess original (well that is how I have found it).

Beware if going wide angle, the larger CV finders get in the way of the speed dial.
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With the end of production the larger speed dial they are all marked 20-1 whether the speeds are there or not so I guess original (well that is how I have found it).

Beware if going wide angle, the larger CV finders get in the way of the speed dial.
I have a second accessory holder where the 5cm finder usually is located.
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That's a good question!

My understanding: Since the speeds are determined by the amount of rotation of the speed disc below the dial, and how long the first shutter remains open before the second shutter trips closed, there is a slower speed when 20-1 is chosen, I had assumed 1/20.

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Interesting. If you put it to 20-1 position, do you get slower than 1/30 sec?
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Is a Nickel Elmar period correct for 1938? It looks so good on your Mod. E

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Mine is from 1938 (the Model E) same as David's with the 20-1 option on the dial.
My guess is they used standardized dials at that point.



Mine came from KEH.com as "Inoperative" ....I so far have not found out what's supposed to be inoperative about it.
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I love these... more photos of these beauties please!
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Normally I'd be kind of *Shrug* about a camera without a RF focusing on it, but that looks so nice...

In regards to the 20-1 option, the first thought in my head was a funny "so... you get any speed from 1/20 to 1 second depending on the mood of the day..."
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Leica IIIC Sharkskin

Here's my pocket cam. Still trying to decide whether to get a neck strap or not...
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In regards to the 20-1 option, the first thought in my head was a funny "so... you get any speed from 1/20 to 1 second depending on the mood of the day..."
With regard to these old Leicas....this might be true!
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Here's my pocket cam. Still trying to decide whether to get a neck strap or not...
Or least a nice little leather padded wrist strap or something you can grab onto. (The thought of that beaut slipping is frightening).
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Is a Nickel Elmar period correct for 1938? It looks so good on your Mod. E
It's a Nickel 35mm f/3.5 Elmar from 1936 if I remember correctly. It looks even nicer on my black Leica II cameras and black-nosed VIDOM viewfinder.

Is there such a thing as a nickel-finish accessory viewfinder from Leica?


For jsrocket (and everyone else):


One from the same camera but taken when I had just received it. In this case sporting a 1939 Summitar.


Without a slow-speed escapement of the Leica III/IIIa/IIIb the slowest speed is dictated by the spring tension of the rollers that pull the curtains. On pre-IIIc cameras this matches with 1/20th.
From the IIIc onward they changed the speed the curtains travel at to match with 1/30th. I guess to achieve a faster flash sync speed.

It's kinda funny how on the IIf they made a simplified slow speed escapement for just achieving 1/25th.
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Is there such a thing as a nickel-finish accessory viewfinder from Leica?

Sure, there is the VIDOM in black and nickel. There are also other black finders with nickel parts, such as the WEISU and others.

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Here's a black and nickel VIDOM for sale at the moment...

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Leica Speed Dials

After Leitz introduced the Leica III they standardised the speed dials to the same pattern for all cameras. Because 1/20 was the slowest nondelayed speed that is the speed shown on the dial of all camera s at that time.
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Here's a black and nickel VIDOM for sale at the moment...
I have one of those in my bits box

...I never noticed that it was a nickel finish...
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I've got one on the way, hoping to pair it with my Summitar in black paint.
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I found a SBOOI at a decent price.

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I sold the last one I had to a fellow RFFer. I will admit that I now regret it!

OK, OK, so it isn't a Standard.

IMG_1235 by dralowid, on Flickr


and...on another topic, for those who need one (and have deep pockets)...no connection etc

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Are the finders on a rising market?
It sure seems like it.
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Weisu has always been expensive, the 28/35 Voigtlander Mini Finder is much harder to find and at a similar price.

I was given one by a member here, used it, then passed it on, wish I would have kept it

Some of the Rangefinders are also rather expensive like the FODIS and FOKOS.
I find the WINKO to be cool and affordable at about 100$

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I swear this is a FOKOS by another name, and at $24.
Lots of them on Ebay.

Besides, as an American, all my lenses have to be numerated in feet, we don't need no stinkin' FOKOS.

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Link please

I need that!
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