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Old 03-30-2014   #81
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I'd vote no for a 'like' button if I had a vote. Turns posting into a popularity contest, and deprives us of the thoughts of the "liker".
Facebok "like" and Google + "+1" are fine over at those places. Don't need that here.

Mostly, I miss some of the people who are no longer here. But that's just life, and not something the owner or mods can fix.
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I'd vote no for a 'like' button if I had a vote. Turns posting into a popularity contest, and deprives us of the thoughts of the "liker".
How about an "agree" or "good" button rather than "like" or "thanks"?
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This place is bliss for a vintage film shooter. I've learned lots about equipment, film stocks (thanks for the heads-up on Neopan 400s demise, and Adorama's sale!), photo activities, met more new kindred spirits, bought and sold more equipment than at any other spot, anywhere. I also love the fact that I can purchase things with complete confidence from RFF members--I've NEVER been disappointed, which is more than I can say for camera shows and that auction site.
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Here the majority are pros. I do understand their needs and mentality.
I am instead a dilettante (with 60+ years of experience)
I would like to have an amateur corner where one:
1- Does not perceive as a sin his reluctance to post photos
2- Is spared the unconfortable feeling to be in every pro's ignore list
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This was a good one, Paolo!
(my ignore list is empty, I post few photos and I wouldn't call me a pro)
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Actually there is one thing that bugs me but god only knows how to address it. People are constantly posting oversize images in threads that instantly make the thread unwieldy with the need to side scroll. Threads that are affected in this way are a pain and I avoid them.

Though I don't know if this an be corrected with software ... I doubt it!
same here...i'll stop going through a thread once this happens...
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The general excellence of RFF and its users is a given but finding stuff I've put here can be a pain. I've subscribed to loads of threads over the years but trying to find them in my list of subscribed threads is nearly impossible as they're spread over so many pages. Please make it possible to display the list of subscribed threads on a single page or organise them in some way or else be able to search them.

The integration of the gallery and forums isn't great. I want to see the threads in which I have posted a particular photo or else list of all the threads in which I have posted photos.

More than the size of photos in threads the thing that drives me nuts is when someone insists on posting a zillion photos one after the other so that the thread just gets taken over. Yes, I know you're a genius but I am too! So maybe some kind of limit on this would be good?

One of the nice features of RFF is that it doesn't have the competitive atmosphere of a camera club, so no competitions please! As far as look and feel goes, I like it! A bit old fashioned is fine if it does the job and the white text on black b/g is good after staring at black on white all day.

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Hi!

As an inveterate 'Feed Reader' (RSS preferred) it would be excellent if you could add such a facility to the forum. It would immediately find itself added to 'akregator' along with my many other 'feeds' and would be guaranteed pride of place among my 'read first' feeds.

Don't tell me, there's all ready one here and I've missed it over the past decade or so!!! ;-)

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Regarding those comments about changing the size of the image when it is too large - the answer is that yes, it is completely possible (with Javascript, JQuery) and yes please do it! Please look into responsive design.

The other item is the general layout and look and feel. As I type this I am seeing a text edit box with options/icons that are very outdated. I know many people don't mind the look and feel but being from the start-up world, having a modern look is a must.

Some folks say that new designs will give them "too much flashing things..." etc etc. But modern web design means simplification and usability to me (ie - less flashy things and cleaner, easier to read)

WetPixel isn't the most modern, but it's an upgrade from this in terms of design IMHO:
http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36639
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Regarding those comments about changing the size of the image when it is too large - the answer is that yes, it is completely possible (with Javascript, JQuery) and yes please do it! Please look into responsive design. ...
I like this idea . However ...
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... The other item is the general layout and look and feel. As I type this I am seeing a text edit box with options/icons that are very outdated. I know many people don't mind the look and feel but being from the start-up world, having a modern look is a must.

Some folks say that new designs will give them "too much flashing things..." etc etc. But modern web design means simplification and usability to me (ie - less flashy things and cleaner, easier to read)

WetPixel isn't the most modern, but it's an upgrade from this in terms of design IMHO:
http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36639
... not only do I 'not mind' the present look and feel, I positively prefer it to that of many others, including that WetPixel example. I choose to view RFFM in the -- VBP Hex Cell Xpand option mode, and find it clear, concise and uncluttered. Not that I would necessarily object to a 'more modern' web design if it really delivered simplification and usability.
But, at my age, I don't think I could take another Flickr-style continual change of format and change of user interface access to functionality .
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WetPixel isn't the most modern, but it's an upgrade from this in terms of design IMHO:
http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36639
Ah, yes, dark text on light background.
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The other item is the general layout and look and feel. As I type this I am seeing a text edit box with options/icons that are very outdated. I know many people don't mind the look and feel but being from the start-up world, having a modern look is a must.


WetPixel isn't the most modern, but it's an upgrade from this in terms of design IMHO:
http://wetpixel.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36639
Not sure I agree with the "modern look is a must"; we have 56,000 some odd members here so there are at least a few people who don't object to the look of RFF.

Personally, I do like the dark background and light text here--I have tried all the varied options for RFF and the "graphite expand" style suits me best.

That said, there is at least one thing I saw at Wetpixels that appeals: the RSS feed option. The content there looks interesting as well, I'll be going back to read through some of it, thanks for the link!

One thing I will suggest for us here at RFF is:
A link to our galleries in the block of info under our member names.

And, please no change just for its own sake!
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Old 04-03-2014   #93
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I agree with improving the search function. I miss some of the old "grouches" also. That is a personality problem though. I wish some that left would come back.
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I mostly enjoy RFF 'as is'. This said, you could improve by making posting/sharing through the RFF galleries more accessible/easier.
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I'd like a "thanks" button, like on LUF. It works a treat on the Leica forum, and is popular and useful.

Note that saying "thanks" is not the same as "like"!
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Old 04-03-2014   #96
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Love the site. My only wish: to make it easier to post images for computer semi- illiterates like me. ( I've tried the usual places on the site to try to get help but nothing happens).
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How about a "Camera Club " syle weekly competition.
Different subject every week? Or Month?
Any Camera any Medium, or different classes?
Winners voted for by moderators or Peers?
Or no Winners, maybe a "Highly Commended" now & again.

No Prizes Necessary. Unless of course you can get that Japanese firm to sponsor a few Prizes?

Please no Pixel Peeping, just great subjects Well shot?
No archive stuff, photo taken in that week/Month.

Our subject this week for Camera Club is "After the Storm"
Still no rain, may have to get the hose out........
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Old 04-04-2014   #99
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Old 04-04-2014   #100
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More talk about film and film cameras would be nice in addition to the myriad of weekly digital wonders.
I know we can't turn the calendar back a decade but I do miss the way it was when I joined RFF even if the old guard are no longer here, or are now silent.
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Old 04-04-2014   #101
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Still after years I like reading this site. However, given the increase of mobile devices, I'd say you should ditch Forum Runner and replace it with something which receives at least some attention and maintenance (such as Tapatalk). Most longer threads create errors on Forum Runner.
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Old 04-04-2014   #102
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Still after years I like reading this site. However, given the increase of mobile devices, I'd say you should ditch Forum Runner and replace it with something which receives at least some attention and maintenance (such as Tapatalk). Most longer threads create errors on Forum Runner.
I agree, RFF is frustrating at best on a mobile device.
Virtually impossible to upload photos, or even use the gallery menu, Ive attempted uploads numerous times only to get frustrated and move my images to flickr.

It would be nice to have more activity in the DIY section, although I'm a big fan of most all the mmoderators, I think somone could do a better job by posting a new thread atleast once a week.

I'm sorry but those true DIY'ers never stop, I'm constantly working on one thing or another. Unfortunately I no longer feel the need to share, when projects receive little to no attention. In my few years here, we've went from a powerhouse of vintage and boutique, to mirrorless rumor hub and boring w/nw threads.

Just my 2 cents.
If there was a better place, ide be there, but for now RFF is still where my heart lays.
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Old 04-04-2014   #103
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I think it would help if you had an easier way to search for photos by the kind of gear. Let's face it, most of us are gear heads and I like to see photos taken by different camera/lens or gear in different locales. The fact that there are users all over the world means we can see real-world performance in all different conditions. Sometimes I think the preview types of tests are stilted since the cameras are used mainly in mild climates, like the Pacific Northwest or England. They behave a lot differently in Manila than they do in London, for example. Just being able to easily find photos by "gear type" would do this.

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Be very careful when adding features, you may discover you miss the inability to do something.

As others have said, I think RFF does what it does very well. However, I think it's a natural place to collect knowledge about the cameras we all like. Repair guides, pdfs of manuals, lists of various development techniques for a given film stock, etc. We have all this collective knowledge in a population that, like all populations, is aging. I want to preserve that knowledge.
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As others have already commented, the ability to post pictures is currently arcane and frequently frustrating to newcomers. That is the #1 problem.

There should be a way to archive frequently asked for data other than creating a sticky thread, which is arguably not the most efficient way to access this kind of data.
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... not only do I 'not mind' the present look and feel, I positively prefer it to that of many others, including that WetPixel example. I choose to view RFFM in the -- VBP Hex Cell Xpand option mode, and find it clear, concise and uncluttered. Not that I would necessarily object to a 'more modern' web design if it really delivered simplification and usability.
But, at my age, I don't think I could take another Flickr-style continual change of format and change of user interface access to functionality .
Certain things are of course subjective and you can have your opinion. But I, IMHO, really think that the Wetpixel posts are much more attractive, simple etc. Just take a look at the two below screenshots and tell me which one is more appealing.



Or This:



We should think about web design like we do our photos... Who here isn't constantly striving for better composition with their images? There are things that can be done to make things simpler, more readable etc. What's wrong with exploring that?
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Not viewing photography as a competitive endeavor, for me, a camera club-type competion would be the kiss of death, even if there were no prizes or winners but only a "high commendation." The same thing for voting by moderators or peers, but I won't elaborate...

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I agree, competitions I think would be more like a popularity contest than standard of work.
They`ve crippled any creativity in the UK .
I see the resulting vapidity every week.
Folk just shoot for the judges not for themselves.
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As an inveterate 'Feed Reader' (RSS preferred)

Don't tell me, there's all ready one here and I've missed it over the past decade or so!!! ;-)
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru....php?type=RSS2

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As others have already commented, the ability to post pictures is currently arcane and frequently frustrating to newcomers. That is the #1 problem.
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They`ve crippled any creativity in the UK .
I see the resulting vapidity every week.
Folk just shoot for the judges not for themselves.
I completely agree. Not helped that many "judges" are poorly chosen - awful at feedback, trotting out trite superficialities and preferring the commonplace. And I don't think democratic voting by members would be useful either - that's just a useless popularity contest (Andres Serrano's photograph is an important artwork, but not many people like it!)

Brighton & Hove Camera Club (whom I help out on occasion) are moving to a system of critiques with feedback from experienced photographers (called "commentators" not "judges"). The aim is not to have "winners" and "losers", and the end game is for all participants to improve their photography. The format is the same as a "normal" competition (except for no scores): you submit a photo, and it is presented in front of everyone, and the commentator critiques it publicly.

That way, the intent of competition to improve skill and ability is retained while doing away with the pitfall of creating and submitting only to win - since there are no winners.

If RFF wants to help its members become better photographers, then this alternative to the traditional competition may be worth pursuing.

The downside is that it needs more effort than the typical online competition, since you need experienced photographers willing to help critique. Which is why I guess you rarely see such online "reviews"!
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... I only we could post photos in the Polls Forum it would be easy to set up a proper, democratic competition ... just a thought

PS .. that doesn't come across on the page as contemptuously as it did in my head
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... Just take a look at the two below screenshots and tell me which one is more appealing....
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I prefer the RFF sample.
+1 . And the RFF version can, optionally, include an avatar, that is not used in the RFF sample, but is in the WetPixel sample. Just to give a 'like-versus-like' comparison .
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jkrumstick has included two screen shots and again mentions 'wetpixel'.
The first is appalling!
Just bad design because of a 'readability' issue - too many characters on the line!
I'm pretty happy with what we have at present, and from what I gather so are most viewers. Just no point in changing just for change sake.
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This is a great forum!

Just one thing I can think of: As I shoot film exclusively (I think many people on here still do) I'd like to have an 'ignore' function not only for users but for whole subforums (everything digital except scanners ). To make it clearer: It would be great to be able to select the subforums I'm interested in and when I'm logged in, only threads of these forums appear on the home page.

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I would like to reiterate my desire for a better buyer and seller feedback process.
I've bought and sold several items here and would like not only to give, but to receive feedback on those transactions. Other than one (buried) designated seller feedback thread, I really don't know a way to leave or receive feedback for a purchase. I see "stars" and transaction numbers next to certain members' names in the classifieds, but I sure don't know how to post feedback to those ratings.
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Disallow the ability for members to delete a thread they created on their whim. We've lost great stocks of knowledge (that many forum users have contributed to) based on one person's hurt feelings (or whatever other reason).
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Being able to sort in the Classifieds, country/region or something like that. Oftentime U.S sellers don't want to ship outside of the U.S, same goes for Europeans etc. Some kind of filtering system would be helpful!
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As a forum, I think it's been great! However, over the years, a huge mass of knowledge are now buried in the subforums and threads. Many people suggested a lens review type of area, and I would like to suggest a wiki-style setup. Allow members to create/modify pages. We can start with lenses, but expand it to include cameras and even techniques. I think well organized information can be very powerful.
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